Purpose of godsbane?

[Felix]

I feel like I'm missing something. Why did the pathfinder want us to have the godsbane? The only time I recall using it was to open a door we could go around and a few elevators. He even seemed disappointed when we used it otherwise. Surely he didnt intend for it to be a glorified key. But from my understanding we were supposed to simply kill the dragon and rule vermund thereafter. So why orchestrate the creation of the godsbane? Only thing I can think of is it was intended to counteract the godsway Crystal's effect over our pawns, but then why did we have to find the overseer to evacuate the imprisoned pawns? I cant help but feel the story was rushed the further I progressed. Unless I missed something important. I just feel lost in the end. Also I miss grigori. They did our dragon boi dirty.

[Bron]

It comes into play again later. Similar to the first game.

[Felix]

How so? it didnt seem like we were supposed to ever see the unmoored world. And we wouldnt have if we never received the godsbane. Which is why I'm confused as to why the pathfinder let us even touch it.

[Hullu Ukko]

This is indeed a big plothole.
Even more after nuking the sea.

[Balm]

It doesn't make any sense. The pathfinder contrived the plan to get us the godsbane, then ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ and cries (a lot) when we use it.

[Insanity Factor]

Pathfinder is definitely the living embodiment of Surprised Pikachu Face.

Guides (pathfinds, if you will) us to receiving the only weapon known to man able to break the greater will's / world's eternal loop, shocked when we use it for intended purpose. He seems to take it very personally for some reason. He feels and looks like this game's version of the Senechal (obviously), but unlike that one, the pathfinder just acts very.. irrationally. Also his powers are a lot more sinister feeling in this one, creating new life / clones from shadows/brine rather than the liquid metal goop in the original game.

Edit: Also what's up with the absolutely ginormous dragon we kill at the end of the unmoored world stage, physical manifestation of the Pathfinder? Or the greater will? It seems kind of sad at the end when we give it our tender loving poking and it doesn't get to see what the future brings. Or something. The dialog during the climb on its body is probably somehow significant, but damn if I wasn't lost in the spectacle of just trying to get to its damn heart and miss most of it :D

[chaosdemon122]

Phaesus (or whatever his name is) was determined to break the cycle, and the only way to stop him was with an even more powerful godsway that what he had. That said, the end of the game is about making a choice based on your own interpretation of "the greater good", and using the godsbane was a means to an end with that objective in mind.

[Felix]

Lol right? I missed a bit of the dialogue because I hit a cutscene trying to outrun the tentacles on the wing. surprised pikachu face is very fitting.

[Erikkustrife]

Originally posted by Felix:

I feel like I'm missing something. Why did the pathfinder want us to have the godsbane? The only time I recall using it was to open a door we could go around and a few elevators. He even seemed disappointed when we used it otherwise. Surely he didnt intend for it to be a glorified key. But from my understanding we were supposed to simply kill the dragon and rule vermund thereafter. So why orchestrate the creation of the godsbane? Only thing I can think of is it was intended to counteract the godsway Crystal's effect over our pawns, but then why did we have to find the overseer to evacuate the imprisoned pawns? I cant help but feel the story was rushed the further I progressed. Unless I missed something important. I just feel lost in the end. Also I miss grigori. They did our dragon boi dirty.

by giving us the godsbane he forced the orginal bro to finnally die, a goal that had elduded him all that time, the rest he thought he could contain (and did btw remember all your veiwing in the post game is something hes showing you that another world did)

[Felix]

Originally posted by chaosdemon122:

Phaesus (or whatever his name is) was determined to break the cycle, and the only way to stop him was with an even more powerful godsway that what he had. That said, the end of the game is about making a choice based on your own interpretation of "the greater good", and using the godsbane was a means to an end with that objective in mind.

But when did we actually stop whatchamaphaseus? In fact didnt he summon the dragon just like he intended? Or did the OG dragon only show up because we had the godsbane? Come to think of it phaesus is kind of odd too... his motives are understandable but you would think he would have been more interested in the current arisen. I guess because he wanted to control the dragon while the arisen is tasked to slay it.

[Felix]

Originally posted by Erikkustrife:

Originally posted by Felix:

I feel like I'm missing something. Why did the pathfinder want us to have the godsbane? The only time I recall using it was to open a door we could go around and a few elevators. He even seemed disappointed when we used it otherwise. Surely he didnt intend for it to be a glorified key. But from my understanding we were supposed to simply kill the dragon and rule vermund thereafter. So why orchestrate the creation of the godsbane? Only thing I can think of is it was intended to counteract the godsway Crystal's effect over our pawns, but then why did we have to find the overseer to evacuate the imprisoned pawns? I cant help but feel the story was rushed the further I progressed. Unless I missed something important. I just feel lost in the end. Also I miss grigori. They did our dragon boi dirty.

by giving us the godsbane he forced the orginal bro to finnally die, a goal that had elduded him all that time, the rest he thought he could contain (and did btw remember all your veiwing in the post game is something hes showing you that another world did)

Ahah! This is what I wanted! But why help us finish it? Just to keep up appearances? Original boy was in the unmoored world too but I guess we didnt technically get the godsbane from him there did we.

[Osamaru]

Originally posted by Felix:

I feel like I'm missing something. Why did the pathfinder want us to have the godsbane? The only time I recall using it was to open a door we could go around and a few elevators. He even seemed disappointed when we used it otherwise. Surely he didnt intend for it to be a glorified key. But from my understanding we were supposed to simply kill the dragon and rule vermund thereafter. So why orchestrate the creation of the godsbane? Only thing I can think of is it was intended to counteract the godsway Crystal's effect over our pawns, but then why did we have to find the overseer to evacuate the imprisoned pawns? I cant help but feel the story was rushed the further I progressed. Unless I missed something important. I just feel lost in the end. Also I miss grigori. They did our dragon boi dirty.

Not a Plothole.
the player just doesn't have all the information immediately available. You're supposed to piece things together,

[chaosdemon122]

Originally posted by Felix:

Originally posted by chaosdemon122:

Phaesus (or whatever his name is) was determined to break the cycle, and the only way to stop him was with an even more powerful godsway that what he had. That said, the end of the game is about making a choice based on your own interpretation of "the greater good", and using the godsbane was a means to an end with that objective in mind.

But when did we actually stop whatchamaphaseus? In fact didnt he summon the dragon just like he intended? Or did the OG dragon only show up because we had the godsbane? Come to think of it phaesus is kind of odd too... his motives are understandable but you would think he would have been more interested in the current arisen. I guess because he wanted to control the dragon while the arisen is tasked to slay it.

He summoned ***A*** dragon, but it wasn't the real dragon, because the real dragon reacted to you being the Arisen and appeared after that to put douche in his place.

The dragon that he summoned, if you notice, is much smaller than the real dragon.

[Felix]

Originally posted by chaosdemon122:

Originally posted by Felix:

But when did we actually stop whatchamaphaseus? In fact didnt he summon the dragon just like he intended? Or did the OG dragon only show up because we had the godsbane? Come to think of it phaesus is kind of odd too... his motives are understandable but you would think he would have been more interested in the current arisen. I guess because he wanted to control the dragon while the arisen is tasked to slay it.

He summoned ***A*** dragon, but it wasn't the real dragon, because the real dragon reacted to you being the Arisen and appeared after that to put douche in his place.

The dragon that he summoned, if you notice, is much smaller than the real dragon.

Right but that doesnt explain pathfinders reasoning for helping us restore godsbane then. But the other comment makes a good point about the original arisen sacrificing himself in the process. Which could explain his reasoning.

[Erikkustrife]

Originally posted by chaosdemon122:

Originally posted by Felix:

But when did we actually stop whatchamaphaseus? In fact didnt he summon the dragon just like he intended? Or did the OG dragon only show up because we had the godsbane? Come to think of it phaesus is kind of odd too... his motives are understandable but you would think he would have been more interested in the current arisen. I guess because he wanted to control the dragon while the arisen is tasked to slay it.

He summoned ***A*** dragon, but it wasn't the real dragon, because the real dragon reacted to you being the Arisen and appeared after that to put douche in his place.

The dragon that he summoned, if you notice, is much smaller than the real dragon.

he wanted to break the cycle and deafeat the watcher, the arisen is part of the cycle. He wants the same thing you want really. The watcher just pitted you agaisnt him.

[Felix]

Originally posted by Osamaru:

Originally posted by Felix:

I feel like I'm missing something. Why did the pathfinder want us to have the godsbane? The only time I recall using it was to open a door we could go around and a few elevators. He even seemed disappointed when we used it otherwise. Surely he didnt intend for it to be a glorified key. But from my understanding we were supposed to simply kill the dragon and rule vermund thereafter. So why orchestrate the creation of the godsbane? Only thing I can think of is it was intended to counteract the godsway Crystal's effect over our pawns, but then why did we have to find the overseer to evacuate the imprisoned pawns? I cant help but feel the story was rushed the further I progressed. Unless I missed something important. I just feel lost in the end. Also I miss grigori. They did our dragon boi dirty.

Not a Plothole.
the player just doesn't have all the information immediately available. You're supposed to piece things together,

Which is what I'm trying to do. Think I'm getting close. An elaborate plan to kill our
ocean dwelling friend is in the lead.