No buy

[Unknownsurfin]

If People purchase at this price it will become the industry accepted standard,
People even in higher wealth brackets are bringing home LESS money not more.
People will purchase this game less as a result unless they choose basic needs, Food, Medications, Travel for work, Family and prioritise them less than entertainment. .


Note: If you disagree please say why you think the price is justifable and why all game publishers should do this and consumers shouldnt critise it. Perferably dont take the above stance as an attack but a view differing from your own.

The most reasonable point made i think in this discussion not by me, was that yes consumers can wait, there is of course more than just "Not Buying" the product, And letting developers live with the outcomes. A simple point not contained in the original comment.

Furthermore, regardless of the responses i have made, i apreciate those that disagree giving their viewpoint on the subject, even though i still find it important to let consumers express disagreeal on a products pricing.

I think i will just wait, I dont play games much now anyway (I cant affored to and i work too many hours) But i do notice there is a complete misunderstanding of those having issues with pricing, a major disconnect and dehumanisation of people being unable to pay, despite being major contributors to socitey in skilled roles.

Many forget many consultants, Lawyers, junior doctors are paid just above mininum wage initially in their careers and its getting worse. I find myself in tthat situation, i may find better pastures but i may not, the point is many of us are like this, and as prices rise the amount most of us have to pay out is getting smaller, contary to what the wealthier few here might belive.

[tfa]

Originally posted by -iD-:

Originally posted by sd:

We coudl compare Quake 3 and Doom Eternal. Quake 3 sold 50k copies during the launch window while Doom Eternal sold 3 million digitally. Physical pc games nets the publisher about 55%. So they got about $27 per sale of Quake 3 while Doom Eternal nets $42 per sale digitally. So QUake 3 made 1.3 million at launch while Doom Eternal made vs 126 million.

quake 3 did not cost as much as DD2 did to develop though. nor as much as the estimated 150m in doom eternal.

I never claimed they had the same budget. You claimed games arent making 100x more. Source on the $150 million?

[[-iD-]]

Originally posted by sd:

Originally posted by -iD-:

quake 3 did not cost as much as DD2 did to develop though. nor as much as the estimated 150m in doom eternal.

I never claimed they had the same budget. You claimed games arent making 100x more. Source on the $150 million?

reddit estimations, there is no source. bethesda did not divulge that information.

[[-iD-]]

i'd also like to point out that if quake3 cost 60 dollars (i cant find a price off hand) or even 50 dollars inflation would make that about 100 dollars in todays money.

[Drakzen]

I mean DD2 is cheaper that the industry standard (Only by about £5 though). Steam forum is probably not the best place to get your message across and also not on the DD2 forum at that since though I love the original game I don't think it has a large following.

I'm still going to be getting it day 1 but it will likely be be the only day 1 purchase I make this year (this is heavily based on how much I enjoyed DD1). I have became more choosy with day 1 purchases a while ago and only go in for it if I know for certain I am going to enjoy the game and usually at the expense of buying no other day 1 release for the year.

I can only hope DD2 is as enjoyable for me as the original.

[tfa]

Originally posted by -iD-:

i'd also like to point out that if quake3 cost 60 dollars (i cant find a price off hand) or even 50 dollars inflation would make that about 100 dollars in todays money.

AAA pc games including Quake 3 were $50 back then. You can't compare software to other types of goods. Lot's of various types of software is cheaper nowadays. A free video editing app now is way better than a $300 video editing app from 1999. A candy bar isnt infinitely replicable at zero cost. The amount of people who eat candy bars hasn't risen at the same rate as video games. Candy bars can't go digital.

If pc gaming were this popular in 1999 then maybe $40 woudl have been the standard price. Also a multiplayer only game like Quake 3 would likely be f2p or reduced price by todays standards.

[[-iD-]]

Originally posted by sd:

Originally posted by -iD-:

i'd also like to point out that if quake3 cost 60 dollars (i cant find a price off hand) or even 50 dollars inflation would make that about 100 dollars in todays money.

AAA pc games including Quake 3 were $50 back then. You can't compare software to other types of goods. Lot's of various types of software is cheaper nowadays. A free video editing app now is way better than a $300 video editing app from 1999. A candy bar isnt infinitely replicable at zero cost. The amount of people who eat candy bars hasn't risen at the same rate as video games. Candy bars can't go digital.

If pc gaming were this popular in 1999 then maybe $40 woudl have been the standard price. Also a multiplayer only game like Quake 3 would likely be f2p or reduced price by todays standards.

free but with mtx that are probably more of a money sink than any single purchasable game.
some of the highest revanue games are f2p but ppl gotta have those 10 dollar skins or battlepass or w/e.
just cuz the methods of getting money has changed doesn't change the fact that for single purchase games you are getting a hell of a value these days even at 70 dollars.

[Micromanner]

damn I cant believe this ♥♥♥♥, how tf can people not afford 60 - 80 euros? Maybe drop the cigarettes and booze lmao.

[Echsrick]

agree, games over 60 euro/dollar/whatever i will not achept

[mohawk_819]

not buying this at that ♥♥♥♥ price ! whoa

[Bakamyon]

too much woke, single player in open world, not interested. we already have Black Desert Online which very rich open world content.

[SyZzLe]

I firmly believe that the burden of financial constraints should not fall upon publishers or developers. My stance is that there exist games worthy of price points ranging from $60 to $70, while others, such as Skull and Bones, may not merit such costs. However, this determination should ultimately lie with the consumer. When considering a purchase, I weigh the cost against the perceived value of the game. Additionally, I assess whether the purchase aligns with my financial means.

It is unrealistic to demand publishers and developers alter their business models and ethical standards. Just as we, as employees or employers, seek increased pay or product quality by enhancing our skills or education, expecting the same from game developers is not unreasonable.

As many have pointed out, consumers have the option to wait until prices drop to better suit their financial circumstances. It is unjust to expect developers or publishers to absorb costs to accommodate individual financial situations.

[skidpro]

you buy the game on pre-order for £37.99 on cd keys....a lot cheaper

[Yggdrasil]

Threads complaining about the price of games has worked--never. There has been a successful market for games at the $70 US price break for some time now. If the game is mediocre, expect sales in six months or so, if it's crap, a couple of months, if it's decent, expect it to hold steady for quite some time.

[Vasana]

People don't realize that a cost of living crisis means games will sell better when they're cheaper. If $50 was the industry standard, there would be a lot more full-price sales. Instead, millions will wait for a sale. It's not about affording $70, you'll focus on getting more for your money when it's less expendable.
https://store.steampowered.com/app/582010/Monster_Hunter_World/
MHW is on sale for $10, that will be this game one day.

[KingOfFriedChicken]

Originally posted by Clockseed:

People don't realize that a cost of living crisis means games will sell better when they're cheaper. If $50 was the industry standard, there would be a lot more full-price sales. Instead, millions will wait for a sale. It's not about affording $70, you'll focus on getting more for your money when it's less expendable.
https://store.steampowered.com/app/582010/Monster_Hunter_World/
MHW is on sale for $10, that will be this game one day.

I mean looks how much palworld sold of course its also a good pokemon esqe PC game which no one has really tried. Also BG3 sold a ton at $60