Can't wait for modders to release Co-Op MOD

[iXeN]

Hopefully it will be possible when the game comes out.

[DankWestern]

Originalmente postado por parent child bowl:

First, they aren't incapable of enjoying a game without multiplayer. They'd enjoy it more with multiplayer.

Second it's not just "the younger generation". For a lot of people of all ages, gaming is social.

While you have a valid point, there's been a huge uptick in 'the younger generation' boycotting games that don't feature multiplayer, even when it makes no sense like solitaire.

I've seen countless discussions and reviews for games that just get trashed for not having it. It's a bizarre trend I theorize may be a result of 'the tablet kids' growing up after having been exposed to years of memefluencers shilling funny games for content that display comical interactions between players in games with it which could be causing them to see single player games as a flaw rather than an optional feature. It's just interesting is all. Not trying to be contrarian or argumentative, just my observation.

[iXeN]

Originalmente postado por DankWestern:

Originalmente postado por parent child bowl:

First, they aren't incapable of enjoying a game without multiplayer. They'd enjoy it more with multiplayer.

Second it's not just "the younger generation". For a lot of people of all ages, gaming is social.

While you have a valid point, there's been a huge uptick in 'the younger generation' boycotting games that don't feature multiplayer, even when it makes no sense like solitaire.

I've seen countless discussions and reviews for games that just get trashed for not having it. It's a bizarre trend I theorize may be a result of 'the tablet kids' growing up after having been exposed to years of memefluencers shilling funny games for content that display comical interactions between players in games with it which could be causing them to see single player games as a flaw rather than an optional feature. It's just interesting is all. Not trying to be contrarian or argumentative, just my observation.

But why would talk about the younger generation, the topic about having co-op in the game, and Imma play it even if it's SP only, just wanted co-op to enjoy it with my friend and we are both +29 years old. And for younger generation, who cares what they like or they don't. In the end it's a matter of choice.

[DankWestern]

Originalmente postado por iXeN:

But why would talk about the younger generation, the topic about having co-op in the game, and Imma play it even if it's SP only, just wanted co-op to enjoy it with my friend and we are both +29 years old. And for younger generation, who cares what they like or they don't. In the end it's a matter of choice.

Don't get it twisted, I'm simply pointing out a recent trend. Observing something and actually caring about something are completely different things. Also, I was just responding to a direct statement about it, so take a chill pill lol

[Zanaki]

Originalmente postado por DankWestern:

It struck me as strange how, no matter the nature of the game, the younger generation of gamers seemingly are incapable of enjoying a game without multiplayer. It's bizarre, but carry on as you were.

Idk man I'm pushing 30 and I feel like co-op makes just about EVERY game better.

At the very least, if they can add co-op and not heavily effect playing solo I see it as a best of both worlds. Sometimes I do wanna just chill on my own and play a game, but if the option for co-op is there I'll likely eventually try it and those are where my favorite memories are made.

Might just be a person to person thing. Now, when people start asking for pvp or a battle royal mode I agree completely lmaoo

[DankWestern]

I getcha, Zanaki. It's just a trend I've noticed. I still remember when Fallout 76 added the battle royale mode and that might be where I started noticing this trend.

[KingOfFriedChicken]

Coop mods in games that don't support it are very difficult it'll take time if it's not impossible and time requires dedication. It's bin seen before like skyrim, but it won't be fast like Eldin ring, that coop mod was made faster as the game housed the structure for it already they simply had to allow for certain aspects and work for stability in things that didn't exist like coop horse riding.

[iXeN]

Originalmente postado por KingOfFriedChicken:

Coop mods in games that don't support it are very difficult it'll take time if it's not impossible and time requires dedication. It's bin seen before like skyrim, but it won't be fast like Eldin ring, that coop mod was made faster as the game housed the structure for it already they simply had to allow for certain aspects and work for stability in things that didn't exist like coop horse riding.

We'll see, if ever it happened it will be something good for the community.

[KingOfFriedChicken]

Honestly would love it, would 100% play it lol but it takes A dedicated modder and a lot of interest and some donations I'm sure, to set up fully your own coop mod, let alone balance the game around it.

But I'm 100% behind the idea, just wouldn't hold my breath xD

[iXeN]

Originalmente postado por KingOfFriedChicken:

Honestly would love it, would 100% play it lol but it takes A dedicated modder and a lot of interest and some donations I'm sure, to set up fully your own coop mod, let alone balance the game around it.

But I'm 100% behind the idea, just wouldn't hold my breath xD

It has large fan base, including modders, so they might be able to do that.

[Satori]

It has Denuvo so no modding unfortunately :(

[KingOfFriedChicken]

Originalmente postado por Satori:

It has Denuvo so no modding unfortunately :(

Yeah Denuvo will only last about 6 months or so, they know they can't prevent piracy forever but they wanna delay it as long as possible almost all developers have removed it after a year.

But also denuvo doesn't stop mods, it simply puts a key in your system registry to verify that it is owned. You can't edit its core exe file but mods are still possible.

That said, a coop mod might be impossible without making changes as such, idk how that works because it's a complex process especially if the game has no net code to start but I can't imagine it doesn't make core changes 🤔

[Soul in Shadow]

Given the way Pawns worked in the first game I will be surprised if modding the game doesn't case an issue with the online features, such as other players not being able to see and rent your pawn

[H-Foundry PIXIV]

some guy in his bedroom making a working co-op mod for a big single-player game is so far out of the realm of possibility it's laughable.

the only mods you'll see is just the same as part 1. Change HDR contrast mod, clothing mod etc. lol. mods won't even be near skyrim level which is mod-friendly engine.

[Velovar]

Not gonna happen

[Drake]

If there is a coop mod, it's going to be in 5 or 6 years at least (I wouldn't bet money on anything under 10 years), because it won't be easy to pull off. Modders would have everything going against them, from the engine, the third party programs etc.
Making a mod is one thing, making a coop mod means using network features of the engine (if possible, otherwise it's going to be implementing a socket from scratch and the interface that let's you play the game with it, in a proprietary engine, good luck), that's not going to be the same cake, it's not like you can use capcom servers, so it's going to be good old client hosting technology.

That's going to be a source of so many bugs and I'm not even talking about the potential security breach with hackers corrupting your save if it's not done right (in a single save game, this is gonna be great, make copies of your files, often).