This Game is such a massive disappointment

[Herr Engel]

its actually so sad. i personally havent waited 12 years but i still played the first game and was super excited when they announced a second game.
a week before the games launch i got even more excited, carefully creating my character already and my pawn, thinking about all the adventures we will go trough and all the people renting my pawn who might be impressed by her skills and knowledge we gathered.

having played the first game, i expected alot. trusting capcom, i preordered the deluxe edition thinking, if i ever preorder a deluxe edition, its gonna be DD2. seeing in the trailers how they didnt try to reinvent the wheel but rather make it more like the first game by fixing alot of the missing stuff like an empty map, i got even more excited.

fast forward to release day, i download the game overnight (bad internet speed), go to work and am super excited to go home and play.

yes the performance was pretty bad and yes the MTX caught me off guard, but i didnt care too much and played all friday night.

about 20-25 hrs later, i finish the game. collected most of the seekers tokens, done almost all sidequests, done with the postgame and im left hugely disappointed.

Grigori from DD2 doesnt even NEARLY come close to the threat and charisma from the first game. Here the dragon feels like a random encounter - when i saw him drop down from the sky killing the plagued dragon i thought much like in the first game, he will tell me that im not ready yet and fly off but no. he holds Brant in his hands, straight up tells me to sacrifice him or fight him.
ofc i fight him, kill him in about 5-10 minutes (he has like 3 movesets) and go to the ending.

i replay the sequence, talk to pathfinder and unlock the postgame.
i evacuate everyone, easily kill all the monsters from the red spots in the sky and get rewarded with a scripted event, not even an endgame fight. i literally just crawl on the dragons back.

there is SO much wrong with this. not only is the entire world STILL empty, the story was an absolute desaster.

they built up the characters with sven, brant, the fake sovran, phaesus, the queen and everyone and immediatly throw all of it out near the end.
To Nadia i only spoke once and messed up the quest to find the assassin so she died, magically resurrected after a while and thats pretty much the only interaction i had with her.
The fight with Grigori (the dragon) was so abrupt, i thought i did something wrong.
so many loose ends, so many story points that left unexplained like what happened to the queen reagent, the fake sovran and everyone else.

comparing the story to the first game, it felt like in DD1 they not only put effort in, but LOVE. here its all just like a fanfiction of the first game, a really bad one at that.

and not only did the story disappoint, also the combat.

about 10 hours in, you can easily kill all monsters in the game. they have almost no AOE attacks that are hard to be avoided and it feels like cutting trough butter with a hot knife after a certain point.
clunky monster AI thats more annoying than challenging, almost no variety in monsters since all i fought are goblins, goblins, goblins and some green goblins.
sometimes id see a troll, sometimes an ogre and very rarely a chimera or medusa.
somehow i missed the sphynx completely, maybe i didnt do a quest or didnt explore an area, might be my fault.
In the postgame i saw bunch of new monsters like the headless ghost, gore chimera, gore cyclops, but they are so weak!

but this is still Dragons Dogma.

This game shouldnt be this easy and should give some incentive to keep farming. now that i bought the best stuff from vendors, why would i play NG+?
the enemies wont get stronger and even if they did, whats the ultimate goal? what am i farming towards? what am i going to do with all the monster parts, what am i going to do after leveling each vocation to the max? do a perfect build with the best augments from each class? for what? Theres no Ur-Dragon to fight, no Death, no Daimon. Yes it was a DLC from the first game, but since they came up with the idea later, why not just build it in the second game straight away?

i finished the game and HAVE to start a NG+. i cant go back and explore more, i have to do it all over again. and im not even sure how much of the progress carries trough.
i really wanted the final 2 of the seeker totem rewards and make my pawn almost perfect. but then again, for what?

i nearly couldnt believe my eyes when i saw "Heavens Key" sold by the merchant.

for those that dont know, these are daggers from the first game you could only obtain by getting lucky with an Ur-Dragon drop, absolutely powerful and end-end-end game stuff.
now you can just straight up buy it?

i mean come on, even if the game had perfect performance, no clunky AI and no MTX, i still wouldnt think that this is a good successor to the first game, it just isnt.

i dont understand it man, i was so excited and so happy but it seems like i waited for nothing, trusted this company alot and it left me very very disappointed.

i really hope some of you atleast had fun with the game, i did, albeit for a short time.
and im not sure how or if they ever going to fix this with DLC's or hardmode.

[TneX]

Originally posted by Lord Kane:

about 20-25 hrs later, i finish the game. collected most of the seekers tokens, done almost all sidequests

Yeah, right. Stopped reading right there. No you didn't, lol.

[Intoker]

https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=3201965881 He didn't see that :)

[KyrenCross]

You guys should change your reviews to send a message so they would do better.

I mean No Mans Sky was mostly negative as well on release, yet they made it better and now people are so happy and at a 90% positive rating.

If people rewards the game with postive review that released at a broken state, microtransaction and less content, then they won't fix a thing and release Dragons Dogma 3 with even less content, more broken and push microtransactions even more as fans just accepts such practices making our favourite games even worse to play.

[Angel]

Originally posted by tankanidis:

Originally posted by Rager:

See this is how I know people are clueless.

The ones who reward and agree with this guy, when half of what he says is a lie. Shows that the community is full of it.

Dragon Dogma 2 is better than 1, and has more content. Dragon Dogma 1 did not get good until much later.

Like comment above mine.

40% less spells? Is a lie. Many spells are now giving to class.
Dark Element or spell enchants. Was not a good system in one.
No Double Jump. Good?
No UR Dragon again was not that great.
Everfall Blue moon tower and witchwood. Most of that came out when?
4 skills is enough because 2 are giving by default. So 6.
Fan Favorite Mystic Knight? LMAOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
Subpar music? What? It is fine. I enjoy it
Combat feedback that is the best part of this game sounds and how the combat feels.


The rest of it not even going to comment on.


The point is, people are full of it.

So you say they are full of it, and then go through the list to say everything removed doesn't bother you

but you agree it was removed?

Doesn't seem like you proved them wrong at all

Amazing isn't it? The sheer fanboy triggering that can happen, people like that will say "no you're lying" then literally just say "yeah they removed all that content but it was bad anyway" lmao

Purest form of cope I've seen in a long time.

Yeah it's a GOOD thing they removed 40% of spells, took away holy and dark elements, leaving only fire ice and lightning, reduced skills from 6 to 4 at one time and more.

flippin amazin

[Rager]

Originally posted by tankanidis:

Originally posted by Rager:

See this is how I know people are clueless.

The ones who reward and agree with this guy, when half of what he says is a lie. Shows that the community is full of it.

Dragon Dogma 2 is better than 1, and has more content. Dragon Dogma 1 did not get good until much later.

Like comment above mine.

40% less spells? Is a lie. Many spells are now giving to class.
Dark Element or spell enchants. Was not a good system in one.
No Double Jump. Good?
No UR Dragon again was not that great.
Everfall Blue moon tower and witchwood. Most of that came out when?
4 skills is enough because 2 are giving by default. So 6.
Fan Favorite Mystic Knight? LMAOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
Subpar music? What? It is fine. I enjoy it
Combat feedback that is the best part of this game sounds and how the combat feels.


The rest of it not even going to comment on.


The point is, people are full of it.

So you say they are full of it, and then go through the list to say everything removed doesn't bother you

but you agree it was removed?

Doesn't seem like you proved them wrong at all

Because most of the things are not removed.

Double Jump can be used with thief skill.

And many of the things they listed was added in DLC. And base game Dragon dogma 2 has more content than base game 1 ever did.

Many of the must have skills are now baked into the class. Like anyone who played this game understands they are full of it.



Like the list they made shows how clueless they are, or not played Dragon Dogma 1 at all, and IMO i like the end game of Dragon Dogma 2 better, and it will get improved on just like Dragon 1 did.


I take great pleasure in calling out people lying.

[Rager]

Originally posted by Angel:

Originally posted by tankanidis:

So you say they are full of it, and then go through the list to say everything removed doesn't bother you

but you agree it was removed?

Doesn't seem like you proved them wrong at all

Amazing isn't it? The sheer fanboy triggering that can happen, people like that will say "no you're lying" then literally just say "yeah they removed all that content but it was bad anyway" lmao

Purest form of cope I've seen in a long time.

Yeah it's a GOOD thing they removed 40% of spells, took away holy and dark elements, leaving only fire ice and lightning, reduced skills from 6 to 4 at one time and more.

flippin amazin

Like right here, Calling people fanboys when they got proved to be a liar.

40 percent of the spells? Please, like I said most of the things got added baked into the classes. and the fact you liked MK and think it was a fan fav. Made me lol hard.


Please stop making yourself look silly.

[Gillium]

Originally posted by Rager:

they got proved to be a liar.

I haven't seen any proof that OP is lying. Some schizo just made an accusation and everyone jumped on the bandwagon. If you actually read through the thread (it's a lot, I know), OP explains that he progressed far enough in the story that he was locked out of doing any more side quests. Yeah, maybe he worded it wrong, but that doesn't make him a liar or invalidate all of his points.

I personally don't have a dog in fight as I refunded purely due to performance issues so I can't speak to the quality of the game. I just don't like seeing honest opinions get shut down by an angry mob. You can disagree with OP's opinion without impugning on his character, especially when he can't even respond.

[Rager]

Originally posted by Gillium:

Originally posted by Rager:

they got proved to be a liar.

I haven't seen any proof that OP is lying. Some schizo just made an accusation and everyone jumped on the bandwagon. If you actually read through the thread (it's a lot, I know), OP explains that he progressed far enough in the story that he was locked out of doing any more side quests. Yeah, maybe he worded it wrong, but that doesn't make him a liar or invalidate all of his points.

I personally don't have a dog in fight as I refunded purely due to performance issues so I can't speak to the quality of the game. I just don't like seeing honest opinions get shut down by an angry mob. You can disagree with OP's opinion without impugning on his character, especially when he can't even respond.

Got all the coins and did all the content in 20 hours is a red flag. Also, his points about skills. dude do I really need to go on? Like anyone who believes the op can't be very bright.

[Gillium]

Originally posted by Rager:

Originally posted by Gillium:

I haven't seen any proof that OP is lying. Some schizo just made an accusation and everyone jumped on the bandwagon. If you actually read through the thread (it's a lot, I know), OP explains that he progressed far enough in the story that he was locked out of doing any more side quests. Yeah, maybe he worded it wrong, but that doesn't make him a liar or invalidate all of his points.

I personally don't have a dog in fight as I refunded purely due to performance issues so I can't speak to the quality of the game. I just don't like seeing honest opinions get shut down by an angry mob. You can disagree with OP's opinion without impugning on his character, especially when he can't even respond.

Got all the coins and did all the content in 20 hours is a red flag. Also, his points about skills. dude do I really need to go on? Like anyone who believes the op can't be very bright.

Again, you're just reading into it what you want to be true. OP may have believed he did most of the content, so what? He did the content that was available to him and came away unsatisfied. That's the point. There's nothing nefarious or dishonest about that.

[Altria Narsil]

30h here, still in the first city exploring and doing quests...wtf you guys talking about? Go play Call of Duty campaing...

[ꉔꏂ꒐꒒ꇙ]

Originally posted by Altria Narsil:

30h here, still in the first city exploring and doing quests...

Exploring and doing quests (not story ones) would up your game time. Some people would rather just focus on the main story rather than put too much time into exploring etc.

I usually leave all the exploring/side stuff for "after" I beat a game or unless if I need to do those things. Not everyone is going to play a game the same.

You can't even continue the game once you finish it? you "have" to start and play new game+? why don't they let you finish everything or explore every place you can, after you beat the game?

Originally posted by TneX:

Originally posted by Lord Kane:

about 20-25 hrs later, i finish the game. collected most of the seekers tokens, done almost all sidequests

Yeah, right. Stopped reading right there. No you didn't, lol.

Well, here's some info

"For a story-focused playthrough, ignoring side content and following a walkthrough, it takes about 20 hours."

If you're searching for everything yourself and doing a good amount of side content, expect around 40 hours for the first playthrough"

He has over 20-ish hours. So, how do you know that he didn't beat the game? got proof? any evidence? no? then shush.

[Rager]

Originally posted by Gillium:

Originally posted by Rager:

Got all the coins and did all the content in 20 hours is a red flag. Also, his points about skills. dude do I really need to go on? Like anyone who believes the op can't be very bright.

Again, you're just reading into it what you want to be true. OP may have believed he did most of the content, so what? He did the content that was available to him and came away unsatisfied. That's the point. There's nothing nefarious or dishonest about that.

Don't say things that are facts. He did not get all the coins in 20 hours. That is a lie unless he cheated.

Also he said other untrue statements about skills, when we are giving many skills as a base line where it would take a slot in Dragon Dogma 1 anyway.

Most of what he said comes off as a lie, that he read on a forums from other liars.

[Rager]

Originally posted by sᴀʏᴏ:

Originally posted by Altria Narsil:

30h here, still in the first city exploring and doing quests...

Exploring and doing quests (not story ones) would up your game time. Some people would rather just focus on the main story rather than put too much time into exploring etc.

I usually leave all the exploring/side stuff for "after" I beat a game or unless if I need to do those things. Not everyone is going to play a game the same.

You can't even continue the game once you finish it? you "have" to start and play new game+? why don't they let you finish everything or explore every place you can, after you beat the game?

Originally posted by TneX:

Yeah, right. Stopped reading right there. No you didn't, lol.

Well, here's some info

"For a story-focused playthrough, ignoring side content and following a walkthrough, it takes about 20 hours."

If you're searching for everything yourself and doing a good amount of side content, expect around 40 hours for the first playthrough"

He has over 20-ish hours. So, how do you know that he didn't beat the game? got proof? any evidence? no? then shush.

I got proof in his words. He did not get most of the coins in 20 hours, unless he cheated.

Beating the game is cute, Do I need to remind everyone that content after beating said story?

[TneX]

Originally posted by sᴀʏᴏ:

Originally posted by Altria Narsil:

30h here, still in the first city exploring and doing quests...

Exploring and doing quests (not story ones) would up your game time. Some people would rather just focus on the main story rather than put too much time into exploring etc.

I usually leave all the exploring/side stuff for "after" I beat a game or unless if I need to do those things. Not everyone is going to play a game the same.

You can't even continue the game once you finish it? you "have" to start and play new game+? why don't they let you finish everything or explore every place you can, after you beat the game?

Originally posted by TneX:

Yeah, right. Stopped reading right there. No you didn't, lol.

Well, here's some info

"For a story-focused playthrough, ignoring side content and following a walkthrough, it takes about 20 hours."

If you're searching for everything yourself and doing a good amount of side content, expect around 40 hours for the first playthrough"

He has over 20-ish hours. So, how do you know that he didn't beat the game? got proof? any evidence? no? then shush.

There is absolutely no way he found "most" of the seeker stones in 20-25 hours. I don't have to explain myself on this, this should be evident to anyone who actually played the game.

[Rager]

Originally posted by TneX:

There is absolutely no way he found "most" of the seeker stones in 20-25 hours. I don't have to explain myself on this, this should be evident to anyone who actually played the game.

The fact people even defend this, is crazy. Let alone how wrong they are about the skills.