is DD2 the best OPEN WORLD JRPG ever???

[PandaSav]

Yup. Feels like it.

Edit - We need more Monsters Capcom, and more health for them in NG+

[GeassV]

no,
dragon quest 8 and 11
ff12
like a dragon: infinite wealth
xenoblade x and chronicles
nier automata
unicorn overlord
octopath traveler 2

[PandaSav]

so old

[Fractured]

Originally posted by Jack Sparrow:

Originally posted by Fractured:

I far prefer the combat in Dragons Dogma (Mostly cause I love party games). But I'm going to agree, Elden Ring is superior in terms of open world design, by a long shot. DD2 is VERY samey, especially the majority of the dungeons being VERY samey (Skyrim style essentially), with only a couple that I've found that really had some interesting bits that stood out.

If I could have the DD combat team (Preferably more towards DD1), with Elden Ring team working on the open world, and some third party to write an actually good story. It would be the perfect game.

Eh? Fromsoft don't need help in the combat department lol wtf

In the party RPG combat department? Yes they do.

Also in terms of unique classes?
Also yes they do.

Fromsoft doesn't do anything unique in terms of combat. Nor parties. What they do have is extremely tight, and solid. But not the combat I'm looking for, we have a hundred of those games.

[Migromul]

Originally posted by Netsa:

Originally posted by Migromul:

Hm. if you take out the combat of this game, you also need to take out the combat of the games you like to compare, or it isn't even. So what gemas are better - explorations-weise - without combat? I realy wonder. (and tobh, I don't realy know any. Perhaps skyrim, but that's all. And that's only, becaus the combat in skyrim isn't that good in the first place., yo it focused on other things. In DD (1 and 2) it's vice-versa.)
Nontheless, As I said, for fans of western-games it's the only JRPG they probably play....
(I have such a friend, btw.)
I also didn't realy play any JRPGs yet. I don't realy know if they're something for me... So I just didn't dare yet.

I didn't say take out the combat, I said take out the aboveground enemies. That means the only combat is in dungeons and tombs.

Elden Ring isn't a fair example since most of the combat is in caves and tombs anyway, but even if I extend it to removing ALL combat, it still works. There's enough to find while exploring that it could subsist on just the sights and platforming.

Breath of the Wild is an example of a game that's still good without overworld combat, too (Tears of the Kingdom even more so because of its building system). It pioneered the feeling of mountain-climbing without needing a preset path and is otherwise puzzle-heavy.

Skyrim and Fallout work as well for the reason you stated. The points of interest are legitimately more interesting than anything else you're doing, regardless.

Dragon's Dogma isn't the only game that focused a lot on its combat, Souls/ER is frequently called a boss rush simulator. It's just that...

...you know how some people say Elden Ring would have worked better as a regular, semi-linear Souls game like Dark Souls 3? DD2 feels like that. I feel like the only reason this is open world is because DD1 was open world.

I don'T know breath of wild. Is this a reality-hunter-game? (without fantasy-elements?) Than, I propably won't play it, since fantasy-elemtns are the things, I realy love. (That's one of the main reasons, I didn't continue MH world after 2 hours. ther's no real magic.)

I only know fallout 4. I didn't play the others. And I must say, in comparison to elder scrolls, the combat in Fallout 4 is realy good.

But the atmosphere in DD 2 is phenomenal imho. The dungeons are mostly caves. And that's even somewhat realistic. But those caves can be very deep and very hidden. You realy need to activly SEARCH for them. Or look up lets plays. ('Best example is the the sorcerer-msister-quest... I think I NEVER would find a one of the items needed, if I wouldn't have looked up a let's play...) (I didn'T findd it, yet, but I know where to search.)

The Quests - especially the side-quests - are also realy good. They're linked and the game memorizes your deciscions. If you do a quest, it certainly can be, that you will face some consequences - be it good or bad - hours later. This might be one of the reasons, why people think, the side quests are just fetch- or deliver-quests. Believe me: they definitly aren't.
Now for exploration: I don't think, that it would be boring, if the overworld-enemies would vanish. But it would be a lot less entertaining.
All things in DD 2 have a purpose. Even totaly underwhelming trash-mobs, you will encounter, when you use Oxcarts in Vermount later. Because. the less xp a monster gives you, the more DP you will get in comparison. For example: A Minotaur will give you 7000 XP, but only 124 DP. Whereas a wolf in the stating area, will give you just 100 XP, but 50 DP... I literally witnessed that. (and this is also the case in DDDA.) So it might be boring to encounter those trash again and again and agin. but it's definitly rewarding. And you NEVER outlevel mobs, e. g. you ALWAYS will get XP.
Asmongold said it, and I say it also again and again. Not the finish is the goal in this game, but the WAY. And the mechanics are extremly complex but seemingly simple.

[PandaSav]

yeh true, it feels like game is using UE5 tech, even though its clearly not. Its so gorgeous in caves, caverns, dungeons and of course the infamous night time. No game has better night time than DD2. PERIOD

[[sMil3]]

Originally posted by PandaSav:

Originally posted by sMil3:

I'll take Yakuza waifus over DD2 every day of the week. You have collectible waifu cards, waifu photoshoot sessions, cabaret waifu minigames and even waifu underground fights.

yakuza borefest and garbage waifus

If Yakuza is a borefest DD2 is what you give to prisoners before an execution.

[PandaSav]

nah yakuza ishin and like a dragon all boring asf, and looks like ps2 game, with ps4 cutscenes

[PandaSav]

oh god Dota player, no wonder

[[sMil3]]

Originally posted by PandaSav:

oh god Dota player, no wonder

You play Diablo and Assassins Creed.

Just lmao. Go play with Excel, it's more entertaining.

[PandaSav]

Originally posted by sMil3:

Originally posted by PandaSav:

oh god Dota player, no wonder

You play Diablo and Assassins Creed.

Just lmao. Go play Excel, it's more entertaining.

ac game, bruh i literrally refunded valhala and odyssey in 10mins bruh, bruhhhhhhhhhh

[PandaSav]

Originally posted by 5P3K73R:

If you recently got a lobotomy then yes DD2 is the best Open World JRPG.
If not, I could name you at least 10 games cheaper and better than DD2.

and that look and feel - way cheaper

[Sgt. Flaw]

Originally posted by sMil3:

Originally posted by PandaSav:

oh god Dota player, no wonder

You play Diablo and Assassins Creed.

Just lmao. Go play with Excel, it's more entertaining.

I like D 4 but hate this game...Assassins creed is crap tho...

For this game being best open world JRPG? I wouldn't know but this is probably my first since JRPG's went to ♥♥♥♥ with FF 13 and I regret trying..

[PandaSav]

yeah most Japan open world games like Xeno and FF series are turn-based bore fest. They were fun, but nothing compared to DD2's potential

[Littlefatcat]

Originally posted by PandaSav:

Yup. Feels like it.

Edit - We need more Monsters Capcom, and more health for them in NG+

New game plus is just new game but you get all your unlocked gear. They should add more options for new game plus like fog of war and difficulty options

[PandaSav]

Originally posted by Littlefatcat:

Originally posted by PandaSav:

Yup. Feels like it.

Edit - We need more Monsters Capcom, and more health for them in NG+

New game plus is just new game but you get all your unlocked gear. They should add more options for new game plus like fog of war and difficulty options

for some reason portcrystal locations get deleted for ng+, sad