Some of the design choices are just plain stupid.

[falloutgod13]

Like getting attacked for going into the goal tower or walking into the brothel. They could have added a warning of some kind or the guards could say something. Instead you walk in and after a while they just start hitting you without any warning. I thought maybe it was because I looted the chest in the tower.

Okay, reload. Go back in tower basement and talk to guard. All good, says hello. Then draws his sword and stabs me in the gut. -_- Either I'm not allowed there or this is a bug of some kind.

[Silamon]

Pretty sure Brant does tell you though? You also get a tutorial pop up when heading up to the castle about restricted areas. I knew before going in that I was supposed to be sneaking, though I do agree the stealth gameplay for that segment is severely lacking.

[WastingSanity]

You are warned that some areas are off limits and that you have to be under cover by either wearing guard armor or noble outfit.

[Shield]

The gaol tower is a bit weird, the guards don't seem to care if you even free prisoners, they just keep patrolling. Step into the pantry though and the entire world map hates you

The doorguard at the brothel at least gave me a warning when I tried to walk in while I left my pass at the forgery guy

[-={LG}=-]

I find it amusing that everyone comes here to post publicly how they screwed up, while blaming the game. Too funny!

[WastingSanity]

Originally posted by -={LG}=-:

I find it amusing that everyone comes here to post publicly how they screwed up, while blaming the game. Too funny!

I find it funny as well. How apparently all the NPCs aggro them now but it has to be a bug, there was no way that they did something wrong. lol

[Mr. Pain™]

The modern gamer needs big flashing lights and banners to be warned that they're about to be punished for breaking and entering.

[ChubbiChibbai]

Originally posted by owlBear:

The gaol tower is a bit weird, the guards don't seem to care if you even free prisoners, they just keep patrolling. Step into the pantry though and the entire world map hates you

The doorguard at the brothel at least gave me a warning when I tried to walk in while I left my pass at the forgery guy

It depends what you are wearing. If you are dressed in a guards armour they will ignore you.

[Mr. Bubbles]

wait what? did you not read the quest dialogue? They straight tell you your not allowed in certain area's without proper dress.

one of the main story quests gets you a guards uniform you can wear into the gaol tower.

You can use that uniform to sneak into the masquerade hall and find a noble outfit to wear to formal occasions.

[Shield]

Originally posted by ChubbiChibbai:

Originally posted by owlBear:

The gaol tower is a bit weird, the guards don't seem to care if you even free prisoners, they just keep patrolling. Step into the pantry though and the entire world map hates you

The doorguard at the brothel at least gave me a warning when I tried to walk in while I left my pass at the forgery guy

It depends what you are wearing. If you are dressed in a guards armour they will ignore you.

That makes sense, that set is dripped out so I'm always wearing it when I can lol

[falloutgod13]

Originally posted by Mr. Bubbles:

wait what? did you not read the quest dialogue? They straight tell you your not allowed in certain area's without proper dress.

one of the main story quests gets you a guards uniform you can wear into the gaol tower.

You can use that uniform to sneak into the masquerade hall and find a noble outfit to wear to formal occasions.

I haven't gotten that far. Been doing side quests. So no. I had no idea I wasn't allowed in there. What's weird is they just let me walk right into there when there's a guard at the door. Doesn't say anything. Then I can talk to guards in there before they decide to attack me. As a game developer that's just bad game design. You can't predict everything a player will do but you can predict that people will do things out of order if you don't put them on guide rails.

Well, this is isn't by any means the only questionable design choice but it really does feel like it's bugged or completely overlooked. Seems like a guard should tell you that you aren't allowed in there.

Someone mentioned there's guard in the Brothel but he says the services are for members only. Not that you're not allowed in there. I figured there'd be a place to buy membership but instead I got assaulted. Then again, the game is made by Japanese people so maybe the line got mistranslated.

[MaikElPipas]

Originally posted by Silamon:

Pretty sure Brant does tell you though? You also get a tutorial pop up when heading up to the castle about restricted areas. I knew before going in that I was supposed to be sneaking, though I do agree the stealth gameplay for that segment is severely lacking.

I found that section really easy but maybe I was lucky. I was too scared of ending in jail so I took the sneaky strategy really serious.

Was easier that it looked tho

[Purple Sauce]

Why would you expect to not get attacked going into areas you were told were restricted? For the brothel there's even a tutorial that pops up and TELLS you that it's a restricted area.

[falloutgod13]

Originally posted by Purple Sauce:

Why would you expect to not get attacked going into areas you were told were restricted? For the brothel there's even a tutorial that pops up and TELLS you that it's a restricted area.

Looked at it again, the wording isn't as clear as you seem to think it is. If it's restricted why'd they let me walk in? I've worked in restricted areas before. There's locked doors, guard, security cameras, scanners, no electronic devices allowed except company issued and they can't leave premises. - I mean, the electronic stuff aside this has zero warning it's restricted. Something about a third floor not being available to new members. I was looking to become a member.

Same for the goal, it should really have a gate and guard checking who enters but instead it's an open archway anyone from the street can walk into and apparently no one checks identity or clearance to what should be a locked down facility where prisoners are kept. I've never in my life seen a jail that has an open door policy like that.

[Purple Sauce]

Originally posted by falloutgod13:

Originally posted by Purple Sauce:

Why would you expect to not get attacked going into areas you were told were restricted? For the brothel there's even a tutorial that pops up and TELLS you that it's a restricted area.

Looked at it again, the wording isn't as clear as you seem to think it is. If it's restricted why'd they let me walk in? I've worked in restricted areas before. There's locked doors, guard, security cameras, scanners, no electronic devices allowed except company issued and they can't leave premises. - I mean, the electronic stuff aside this has zero warning it's restricted. Something about a third floor not being available to new members. I was looking to become a member.

Same for the goal, it should really have a gate and guard checking who enters but instead it's an open door anyone from the street can walk into and apparently no one checks identity or clearance to what should be a locked down facility where prisoners are kept. I've never in my life seen a jail that has an open door policy like that.

Okay and? There are plenty of games that do this. This isn't the first game to have people attack you for invading their space. Jesus christ I'm losing brain cells.

[Donte]

Originally posted by owlBear:

The gaol tower is a bit weird, the guards don't seem to care if you even free prisoners, they just keep patrolling. Step into the pantry though and the entire world map hates you

The doorguard at the brothel at least gave me a warning when I tried to walk in while I left my pass at the forgery guy

i got attacked by guards when I tried to talk with the guy in the cell (for some quest in checkpoint village) while busting political prisoner was fine with them lmao.