Sorcerer is disgustingly unplayable

[UnlivingEnd]

Everything can hit you for at least a third of your health. Everything has a lunge attack that can close the distance between you almost instantly. Your basic attack does no damage and has no impact. Your spells take too long to cast even if you rush them. 1v1 is impossible for above reasons. Your soft lock will constantly screw you over because it’s a massive downgrade from the first game. Overall playing this vocation makes for an unfair and frustrating experience. They are unplayable.

[Netsa]

Okay, so I just switched to Sorc since I maxed Archer, and I got questions.

Is Sorcerer ONLY good when you get access to his really good spells? None of the stuff he starts with seems to do any damage to anyone, but maybe I just need a better staff...? The burn proc does more damage than my fire, I don't get it.

And I was complaining about Archer, geez. Sorc has even less mobility than Archer does.

[Dracoco OwO]

Sorcerer is hard mode if enemies spot your before you nuke them lol, always has been.

[AvG]

Originally posted by Netsa:

Okay, so I just switched to Sorc since I maxed Archer, and I got questions.

Is Sorcerer ONLY good when you get access to his really good spells? None of the stuff he starts with seems to do any damage to anyone, but maybe I just need a better staff...? The burn proc does more damage than my fire, I don't get it.

And I was complaining about Archer, geez. Sorc has even less mobility than Archer does.

Early on take lightning mine and immediately place it down on the ground near you before enemies approach
it will ragdoll them away unless its a big boi. This gives you more time to cast a big spell.
I used lighting set for main attack because ogres are weak to it, and most enemies can get hit pretty hard by it, especially if its raining or near water.
I didn't like the ice spells because my vision tended to be blocked but when you unlock the aoe ice globe use that because it slows everything down, assuming you took the sorcerer augment of applying debuffs.
the last two slots depend on what you want to do earthquake is ok but flare is amazing, maelstrom is so so.
You will need at least a level 1 upgraded lord lightning staff from the elf village to start seeing you pierce defenses on big enemies.

[Kirzan]

Originally posted by Netsa:

Okay, so I just switched to Sorc since I maxed Archer, and I got questions.

Is Sorcerer ONLY good when you get access to his really good spells? None of the stuff he starts with seems to do any damage to anyone, but maybe I just need a better staff...? The burn proc does more damage than my fire, I don't get it.

And I was complaining about Archer, geez. Sorc has even less mobility than Archer does.

It's a good idea to dip into Fighter and Warrior as well for nice defensive passives. Warrior you only need vocation level 2 I believe, for HP.

Sorcerer is always good, but it's the glass cannon DPS version of Mage, so yeah, it'll shine with more vocation ranks. Doesn't take that long though.

Get a pawn that's Fighter with shield summons or a warrior with the aggro trait and you should be fine. The game's incredibly easy with 3 pawns, unless you're soloing, then I'd say Sorc is probably the worst vocation for it, but I'd imagine it could also be the best if you super plan, are super careful and super exploit as much as you can (like with levitate). Sorc can DELETE groups easily.

[Netsa]

I like how quickly my question was disregarded :P
Sorcerer doesn't start with any nukes. Apparently Flare is good? What level does it unlock?

It sounds like he's just a debuff-bot until he unlocks something better. That doesn't seem right.

[Danielle]

Get on a high rock, and bring a mage spell with you so you have something you can throw out quickly if you need to. I don't go anywhere without high levin, to quickly shut harpies up if nothing else.
Also, consider bringing a mage pawn with palladium, they seem pretty reliable with using it and it's a perfect combo for a sorc's long cast times.

Mage and sorc both have levitate, which is really good for just sliding right out of the way of a lot of attacks. You really just need to get used to not attacking until you're safe, and if you're not safe, levitating somewhere that is.

[Umbral Priestess]

Originally posted by Netsa:

I like how quickly my question was disregarded :P
Sorcerer doesn't start with any nukes. Apparently Flare is good? What level does it unlock?

It sounds like he's just a debuff-bot until he unlocks something better. That doesn't seem right.

All jobs start with low offense and you work your way up, most rpgs i know with mages/wizards, etc, all start weak and low damage untill you level. elden ring also does this with casters.

However. you CAN get the master level spells very early, but it will require someone to gift them to you.

But regardless, i am melting most things as i actually know how to play sorcerer. most people claiming it's bad are trying to play it like a melee or casting in the enemies face and wonder why they can't finish a spell, or in general doesn't know how to take advantage of weaknesses

[Homebrew]

I'm not even reading the comments, just respond to OP:

I couldn't agree more. I tried every single vocation and I am currently at level 60 and sorc was HANDS DOWN the worst experience. Glass cannon without the cannon.

[Whisperedn7x]

Underpowered haha ok my augural flare makes this game laughable as a sorcerer. I have no idea what you guys are talking about. AF is literally the most broken spell in the game

[Netsa]

Originally posted by Umbral Priestess:

All jobs start with low offense and you work your way up, most rpgs i know with mages/wizards, etc, all start weak and low damage untill you level. elden ring also does this with casters.

However. you CAN get the master level spells very early, but it will require someone to gift them to you.

No they don't, what? They may get stronger stuff later on, but their starting spells aren't supposed to be useless. Sorc's starter spells in DD1 were still useful for some things late in the game, that's why I was wondering if my staff damage was just low.

[Umbral Priestess]

Originally posted by Netsa:

Originally posted by Umbral Priestess:

All jobs start with low offense and you work your way up, most rpgs i know with mages/wizards, etc, all start weak and low damage untill you level. elden ring also does this with casters.

However. you CAN get the master level spells very early, but it will require someone to gift them to you.

No they don't, what? They may get stronger stuff later on, but their starting spells aren't supposed to be useless. Sorc's starter spells in DD1 were still useful for some things late in the game, that's why I was wondering if my staff damage was just low.

They do, none of their spells are "useless" try not casting fire spells on fire resistant enemies. i've had no issues making quick work of enemies.

You can also try using a good weapon, Not the weapon you started with at high levels.

This is 100% a skill issue. Flare, for example is one of the most broken spells in this game, if you know how it works. Stop blaming the job it self because you have no idea what you're doing.

[Skandranon]

I have no idea what you're doing...Prescient Flare shaves 2 and a half bars off a drake if you cast it at its heart.

Sorceror is ridiculous. Died exactly once after I got it and that was because I was silenced.

What are you people doing?

[Homebrew]

Originally posted by Whisperedn7x:

Underpowered haha ok my augural flare makes this game laughable as a sorcerer. I have no idea what you guys are talking about. AF is literally the most broken spell in the game

Is there another spell that even comes close to that? That's a master spell, right?

[Homebrew]

Originally posted by Skandranon:

I have no idea what you're doing...Prescient Flare shaves 2 and a half bars off a drake if you cast it at its heart.

Sorceror is ridiculous. Died exactly once after I got it and that was because I was silenced.

What are you people doing?

Not getting the master spells, obviously. But should you need master spells to be competitive?

[Jee Em]

Erm, what? Idk what those people are doing who are saying that sorcerers are underpowered, but I've been playing as one for over 30hr.

Making use of elemental weaknesses and having an aggressive tank is key.