Sorcerer is disgustingly unplayable

[UnlivingEnd]

Everything can hit you for at least a third of your health. Everything has a lunge attack that can close the distance between you almost instantly. Your basic attack does no damage and has no impact. Your spells take too long to cast even if you rush them. 1v1 is impossible for above reasons. Your soft lock will constantly screw you over because it’s a massive downgrade from the first game. Overall playing this vocation makes for an unfair and frustrating experience. They are unplayable.

[Money Christ]

This is 100 percent a you problem. There is a single augment you can get that instantly makes any ranged class strong. It's called subtlety. Furthermore you could use thundermine to keep smaller enemies off of you in the rare event they do target you.

[Meron]

Sorc is trash compared to the previous game and it's extremely limited with its base skills being utter garbage.
However, with a good setup you can literally one-shot dragons.
Prescient/Augural Flare does ridiculous damage. Spellhold and cast it when you see openings. Build it with regular attacks as well. The targeting is really finnicky so be aware.

-Tips-
Maximum Stamina is important.
Highly recommend grabbing Endurance from Archer.
Spellhold is more useful than you think.
The Elven Town has good rings and gear for Sorc/Mage so pick those up. A single ring that speeds up casts is a big difference.

Honestly I'm not a big fan of Sorc in this game. The core skills suck a lot so I'm using Warfarer.

[Netsa]

Originally posted by Jeff Benzo$:

This is 100 percent a you problem. There is a single augment you can get that instantly makes any ranged class strong. It's called subtlety. Furthermore you could use thundermine to keep smaller enemies off of you in the rare event they do target you.

Not true. Subtlety doesn't mean you never get focused, it just lowers the chance. Try using it yourself before you throw up stuff like this.

[SaltyBalls]

Originally posted by Stan Lee:

This game is designed to play with your minions, don't be alone.

Too bad they die EZ

[ThatOneGuy]

Originally posted by Meron:

Sorc is trash compared to the previous game and it's extremely limited with its base skills being utter garbage.
However, with a good setup you can literally one-shot dragons.
Prescient/Augural Flare does ridiculous damage. Spellhold and cast it when you see openings. Build it with regular attacks as well. The targeting is really finnicky so be aware.

-Tips-
Maximum Stamina is important.
Highly recommend grabbing Endurance from Archer.
Spellhold is more useful than you think.
The Elven Town has good rings and gear for Sorc/Mage so pick those up. A single ring that speeds up casts is a big difference.

Honestly I'm not a big fan of Sorc in this game. The core skills suck a lot so I'm using Warfarer.

Not having access to Maister Sorc skills barely impacts your Warfarer Sorc I take it?

[MehDagon]

Sorc defo works but it all boils down to repeatedly spamming Augural flare/maelstorm/meteoron. levitate + high levin is one of the ways you can try to 1v1 mobs too but you will need articulacy rings.

Spell hold + any of the maister spells will kill most of the things too but the gameplay can get stale really fast.

Sorc really got hurt by removal of 2 extra skill slots but still can 1 shot bosses if everything goes well and you have high enough magick.

If you want to play incredibly op vocation just hop on magick archer, kills bosses instantly with martyr bolt. and most of its normal skills are completly imballanced too.

[Money Christ]

Originally posted by Netsa:

Originally posted by Jeff Benzo$:

This is 100 percent a you problem. There is a single augment you can get that instantly makes any ranged class strong. It's called subtlety. Furthermore you could use thundermine to keep smaller enemies off of you in the rare event they do target you.

Not even the least bit true. Subtlety doesn't mean you never get focused, it just lowers the chance. Try using it yourself before you throw up stuff like this.

I did, which is exactly why i said it?
Are you people using pawn commands?
Good pawn abilities on all your pawns?

The amount of times I died on sorc to mobs was less than the times I died to gravity. I quit playing sorc because it was genuinely boring when Im standing here nuking half the planet.

Really, nothing even kind of stood a chance.

[Meron]

Originally posted by ThatOneGuy:

Not having access to core Sorc skills barely impacts your Warfarer Sorc I take it?

Warfarer gets all the core skills of w/e weapon it's using at the time and yes it barely matters for Sorc. Only useful core skill is Quickspell.
Btw it takes up one skill slot to swap weapons on Warfarer meaning you not only get lower stats but lose one skill slot if you wanna use multiple weapons.
Even with that Sorc/M.Arch obliterates basically every enemy.

[Vinnolo]

a fighter with the shield agro skill is all you need, also the aggro augment, and use the help command when they are near, once you get the big spells, all fights are just send fighter and cast big spell to remove any weak mob instantly

[Sparhawk122]

Fighter class is worse. Most useless vocation ever.

[Money Christ]

Originally posted by Netsa:

Originally posted by Jeff Benzo$:

This is 100 percent a you problem. There is a single augment you can get that instantly makes any ranged class strong. It's called subtlety. Furthermore you could use thundermine to keep smaller enemies off of you in the rare event they do target you.

Not true. Subtlety doesn't mean you never get focused, it just lowers the chance. Try using it yourself before you throw up stuff like this.

Also i had to revisit this again because the point you were trying to make was just so... Misguided.


Nothing in the game is going to make it so you aren't targeted. You are supposed to be facing adversity. Why are you even playing a game if you don't want to participate in it? Go watch a movie. ♥♥♥♥ man.

[Money Christ]

Originally posted by Sparhawk122:

Fighter class is worse. Most useless vocation ever.

>literally holds aggro for you
>useless
pick one.

[Zombie Teddy Bear]

I find this discussion moot, its like complaining that a healer class cant 1v1 anything when having a proper party setup is whats important.

[ThatOneGuy]

Originally posted by Jeff Benzo$:

Originally posted by Netsa:

Not even the least bit true. Subtlety doesn't mean you never get focused, it just lowers the chance. Try using it yourself before you throw up stuff like this.

I did, which is exactly why i said it?
Are you people using pawn commands?
Good pawn abilities on all your pawns?

The amount of times I died on sorc to mobs was less than the times I died to gravity. I quit playing sorc because it was genuinely boring when Im standing here nuking half the planet.

Really, nothing even kind of stood a chance.

So what did you switch to if Sorc was too powerful?

[Netsa]

Give me a break, dude. No need to backtrack.

Originally posted by Jeff Benzo$:

This is 100 percent a you problem. There is a single augment you can get that instantly makes any ranged class strong. It's called subtlety. Furthermore you could use thundermine to keep smaller enemies off of you in the rare event they do target you.

Quoting this again for reference. "There is a single augment you can get that instantly makes any ranged class strong. It's called subtlety."