PS5 runs better than PC

[5P3K73R]

I have a PC with a 3070Ti M and it still can't manage a steady 30FPS at 1080p.
The funniest part? PS5 runs this at 4K (1440p upscaled) with RTX at 30FPS locked.

If you are deciding where to play this game, get the PS5 version. There's something wrong with the PC version at the moment and does not justify the $70 until Capcom fixes it. Also, you can sell the PS5 disc once you're done playing as well so it's actually cheaper on console as well.

[Spades]

Originally posted by Ezeris:

I can run the game at 90-100 fps, 48 fps in huge cities at 4k but PS is better at 30 fps..🧐


🤣

Thanks, I needed a good laugh.

This guy definitely murdered all the townfolk lmao

[Dixon Sider]

PC and PS5 both have their strong points and I think it is best to play all 3 (PC, Switch, PS5) interchangeably. I would normally get a game like this on PS5 (long play sessions, better with controller, emphasis on immersion), but the performance really made me second guess the PS5 and I got it on PC. I have a 4090 and i9 10900k and it is running very smooth in 4k. Def a lot more than 30 FPS.

[OptimusGrizly]

Originally posted by johnpsy:

Originally posted by OptimusGrizly:

Please take sony's penis out of you mouth for a minute to think before you type. I have a 3080ti laptop which is compared to a 3070 and an i9. I play at 1440 high settings, ray tracing, DLSS on quality and getting 60 fps. From your post we can tell you dont have a pc. 3070 something? If you had one you would know if you have a 3070 or 3070ti. Also everyone on the planet knows that a ps5 is NOT going to run this at 60 FPS on 4K. It can barely run any games that are current gen above 30 on lower resolution settings. There is a reason why us "nerds" buy a pc. ITS BECAUSE WE LIKE 60+ FPS AND DONT WANT TO SHELL OUT 600 EVERY FEW YEARS and we don't have to pay twice to use our internet. PC tech is and always will be 2-3 gen past a plastic box. Save yourself some money and go with pc gaming.

Your arguments are complete trash and shows that youve never touched a console in your life, youre just another dumb pc elitist. Console ALWAYS was cheaper to game on overall, imao the pc itself to match ps5 is much more expensive. And no, it can run current gen games great, plus there is no fear for a bad port like with pc releases of the last 2 years. Get your facts straight first

hmmm.... in my years its usually the dumb who start calling others they don't know dumb.... any way. Started on console while you where just a nut stain in your daddy's sock drawer. So I am not an not an elitist pc gamer as you claim. I used to game on console. Switched for many reasons like actually being able to aim where I want the cursor to go, Mods for games, better performance, better graphics, not having to pay to use the internet I already pay for. I mean I can go on. Console will always be more expensive since pc hardware will always be roughly 3 gen a head and we dont have to pay to play games on our hardware. Before you say you don't pay to play games on your plastic box, you do, since Sony bends you over every month and reaches up there to take the money that they only care about. Which I will let you in on a secret. They don't care about you, only your money. So stop simping so hard for corp that dosen't even know who you are or care about you.

Oh yeah, I do have a PS5 but regret buying it since it is covered in dust because I have no use for it. At least until next month for 1 game. But I am sure that game will eventually come to PC as many PS exclusives are now a days. So I do know know how these current gen games run. He is some facts that are right that you obviously don't know. 30 FPS is not great. Current gen games like the newest FF (Think it was 16 lost track of how many of them there are) was running at that and overheating the PS5 and if it is also available on the PS4 it isn't current gen.

Lastly I know you don't have to fear bad performance on a ported game. Most of these games are optimized for the consoles and still have bad performance. We just get the port that is all ready poorly optimized but still get better performance.

[OptimusGrizly]

Originally posted by Dixon Sider:

PC and PS5 both have their strong points and I think it is best to play all 3 (PC, Switch, PS5) interchangeably. I would normally get a game like this on PS5 (long play sessions, better with controller, emphasis on immersion), but the performance really made me second guess the PS5 and I got it on PC. I have a 4090 and i9 10900k and it is running very smooth in 4k. Def a lot more than 30 FPS.

Agree. I have the same 3 (except the beast of a GPU. I only got a laptop 3080Ti which I should just say a 3070). I play the switch here and there. I bought the PS5 for any exclusives for flat and PSVR2. So just kinda collecting dust since most exclusives getting ported over and Sony not really supporting PSVR2 (As I kinda figured they wouldn't). You picking up Stellar Blade? I will be dusting off the PS5 for that one. Looks good.

[Dixon Sider]

The most cool things about consoles is the fact that they are embedded systems. The developers of the video games running on these embedded systems can assume things like operating system, OS version, peripherals, architecture, hardware, all things standardized. Which is cool because then the developers will not have to jump through hoops to make sure all possible environments are supported. They can make more 1-trick pony products.

What we are seeing with this issue with AAA games and terrible optimization is something engineers predicted would happen like 10 or 20 years ago. That is why there was such a big push for cell phones to go embedded. Backwards compatibility will always be a crutch for creating things. We have to narrow our window for the method for solving problems so the solution can be platform agnostic. So in a way, consoles are the future of gaming.

Embedded systems are a much more future proof technology. One day our cell phones will be stronger than our computers. That is the path our technology is evolving to.

That being said, the benefit of having a computer is that you are able to constantly update things when they fall behind. So really both are good, but in different ways. In a way, consoles hold PC gaming back. Also in a way, PC gaming holds consoles back by forcing developers to narrow their problem solving techniques for a more platform agnostic solution that might not be as beneficial to the console as a non platform agnostic solution would have been.

[Dixon Sider]

Originally posted by OptimusGrizly:

I bought the PS5 for any exclusives for flat and PSVR2.

Ya I heard so many great things about PSVR2 and I am looking to that for my next big gaming purchase. I got my GF a PS5 driving wheel for christmas and I think the 2 of those combined would be a pretty amazing combo.

Originally posted by OptimusGrizly:

You picking up Stellar Blade? I will be dusting off the PS5 for that one. Looks good.

I normally do pick up the PS5 exclusive games because they have a pretty good track record of being some of the best games releasing.

[OptimusGrizly]

Originally posted by Dixon Sider:

Originally posted by OptimusGrizly:

I bought the PS5 for any exclusives for flat and PSVR2.

Ya I heard so many great things about PSVR2 and I am looking to that for my next big gaming purchase. I got my GF a PS5 driving wheel for christmas and I think the 2 of those combined would be a pretty amazing combo.

The adaptive triggers are a game changer for VR for me. I did like the eye tracking for the 1 game I played that actually used it. I actually just put it up for sale, seeming how I never use it anymore, since all the games that I want to play are also on PC. So I tend to go that route since it runs and looks better. Not to mention the ♥♥♥♥♥ re projection sony uses. It does make the image look worse sometimes but my main gripe with it was until I got my psvr2 legs, I would get the vr sickness crap due to the re projection. So I had to go through it twice. It would pair nice with the driving wheel and GT5. I heard GT is amazing in VR. So she may love it. I thought about picking it up but I wont buy a game that requires you to be online at all times.

[johnpsy]

Originally posted by OptimusGrizly:

Originally posted by johnpsy:

Your arguments are complete trash and shows that youve never touched a console in your life, youre just another dumb pc elitist. Console ALWAYS was cheaper to game on overall, imao the pc itself to match ps5 is much more expensive. And no, it can run current gen games great, plus there is no fear for a bad port like with pc releases of the last 2 years. Get your facts straight first

hmmm.... in my years its usually the dumb who start calling others they don't know dumb.... any way. Started on console while you where just a nut stain in your daddy's sock drawer. So I am not an not an elitist pc gamer as you claim. I used to game on console. Switched for many reasons like actually being able to aim where I want the cursor to go, Mods for games, better performance, better graphics, not having to pay to use the internet I already pay for. I mean I can go on. Console will always be more expensive since pc hardware will always be roughly 3 gen a head and we dont have to pay to play games on our hardware. Before you say you don't pay to play games on your plastic box, you do, since Sony bends you over every month and reaches up there to take the money that they only care about. Which I will let you in on a secret. They don't care about you, only your money. So stop simping so hard for corp that dosen't even know who you are or care about you.

Oh yeah, I do have a PS5 but regret buying it since it is covered in dust because I have no use for it. At least until next month for 1 game. But I am sure that game will eventually come to PC as many PS exclusives are now a days. So I do know know how these current gen games run. He is some facts that are right that you obviously don't know. 30 FPS is not great. Current gen games like the newest FF (Think it was 16 lost track of how many of them there are) was running at that and overheating the PS5 and if it is also available on the PS4 it isn't current gen.

Lastly I know you don't have to fear bad performance on a ported game. Most of these games are optimized for the consoles and still have bad performance. We just get the port that is all ready poorly optimized but still get better performance.

Your not even making sense, you dont have to pay to play games ???? Did you just confess to pirating games ? You still didnt provide any counter argument, just parroting the same garbige over and over wont make them true. FF16 does have a 60 fps mode and its not on ps4 and the overheating thing was a meme, this alone shows that you clearly have no idea what youre talking about.
Most games dont have great mod support, only slightly better gfx, better perf IF you have the hardware and drop settings, terrible ports, occastional pc issues, i could go on. Btw ps plus is completely optional, you dont need it, and even then its still cheaper than netflix.

[Dagoth Ur did nothing wrong]

Originally posted by johnpsy:

Originally posted by OptimusGrizly:

hmmm.... in my years its usually the dumb who start calling others they don't know dumb.... any way. Started on console while you where just a nut stain in your daddy's sock drawer. So I am not an not an elitist pc gamer as you claim. I used to game on console. Switched for many reasons like actually being able to aim where I want the cursor to go, Mods for games, better performance, better graphics, not having to pay to use the internet I already pay for. I mean I can go on. Console will always be more expensive since pc hardware will always be roughly 3 gen a head and we dont have to pay to play games on our hardware. Before you say you don't pay to play games on your plastic box, you do, since Sony bends you over every month and reaches up there to take the money that they only care about. Which I will let you in on a secret. They don't care about you, only your money. So stop simping so hard for corp that dosen't even know who you are or care about you.

Oh yeah, I do have a PS5 but regret buying it since it is covered in dust because I have no use for it. At least until next month for 1 game. But I am sure that game will eventually come to PC as many PS exclusives are now a days. So I do know know how these current gen games run. He is some facts that are right that you obviously don't know. 30 FPS is not great. Current gen games like the newest FF (Think it was 16 lost track of how many of them there are) was running at that and overheating the PS5 and if it is also available on the PS4 it isn't current gen.

Lastly I know you don't have to fear bad performance on a ported game. Most of these games are optimized for the consoles and still have bad performance. We just get the port that is all ready poorly optimized but still get better performance.

Your not even making sense, you dont have to pay to play games ???? Did you just confess to pirating games ? You still didnt provide any counter argument, just parroting the same garbige over and over wont make them true. FF16 does have a 60 fps mode and its not on ps4 and the overheating thing was a meme, this alone shows that you clearly have no idea what youre talking about.
Most games dont have great mod support, only slightly better gfx, better perf IF you have the hardware and drop settings, terrible ports, occastional pc issues, i could go on. Btw ps plus is completely optional, you dont need it, and even then its still cheaper than netflix.

confessing to piracy isn't like some sort of crazy revelation. I don't know a single person who hasn't pirated at least one piece of media in their lives. It's actually just a part of modern living at this point.

[johnpsy]

Originally posted by Spades:

Originally posted by johnpsy:

Your arguments are complete trash and shows that youve never touched a console in your life, youre just another dumb pc elitist. Console ALWAYS was cheaper to game on overall, imao the pc itself to match ps5 is much more expensive. And no, it can run current gen games great, plus there is no fear for a bad port like with pc releases of the last 2 years. Get your facts straight first

Worked in tech for 15 years. You are wrong....

It wasn't until recently that the price argument worked in consoles favor for gamers.
Games are generally more expensive on console, and they have a yearly fee for online play. For a good while, consoles were not even competitive with budget PC builds you could put together for 400-500 CDN, because for some god awful reason, they took ages to adopt SSDs, and the hardware put into them was passable, but inexpensive and relatively weak.

with the last two generations of consoles, the gap flipped. The crypto ♥♥♥♥, sent GPU prices sky high, and once Nvidia got a taste of that inflated market, they never let go.

The PS5 uses a AMD Oberon, which is a slightly watered down, shared memory pool 6800. Which, would be fair imho, to call a 6700.

Building a PC currently, is more expensive than a console. Though, I would consider the level of capability between the two... kinda worlds apart, and the dude is right when he says PC will always be a gen or two ahead... thats just how tech works.... This is also pretending enterprise doesn't exist.

Let me guess your dad works in microsoft too ? If you did then you would know that its was always true. Lets go back in history shall we... In the 90s a pc to play doom in an acceptable way ,with all parts working and supported by the game, 1500+$. PS1/N64 had graphical features that took years for pc to catch up and even then perfomance was not good and the hardware was expensive af. PS2/PS3/PS4 era same thing, it wasnt "until recently" it was always the case. Back in 2015 a 500$ would get you a 1050 which provides much worse perf than a ps4, and can barely run current games. Btw you can install an ssd anytime you want and get benifited from it. Games on console are the same price as on pc, if not cheaper with the retail and used game market. All digital storefronts have roughly the same prices, it wouldnt make sense to the publisers if it was cheaper on one platform and not on the other, they would be losing money. The online sub does suck, but its optional, but even then its still cheaper than netflix.

[[UA] Neominigun]

Yeah actualy had that felling mayby i shoul get Ps 5 version. My i7 9700k 32 gb ram ssd msi rtx 4070 clearly not anought.People still on 30 fps thing,My first Souls game was Bloodborne at realese 3-4 min load between deaths and single digets frames and i loved every second of it,now 80% pc releses has covid.Good leson for everyone.When Resident Evil 9 and MHW rolls out be pationt it desent matter pc or console both geting ♥♥♥♥♥♥.

[johnpsy]

Originally posted by Wáng Yáng Bŭ Láo:

Originally posted by johnpsy:

Your not even making sense, you dont have to pay to play games ???? Did you just confess to pirating games ? You still didnt provide any counter argument, just parroting the same garbige over and over wont make them true. FF16 does have a 60 fps mode and its not on ps4 and the overheating thing was a meme, this alone shows that you clearly have no idea what youre talking about.
Most games dont have great mod support, only slightly better gfx, better perf IF you have the hardware and drop settings, terrible ports, occastional pc issues, i could go on. Btw ps plus is completely optional, you dont need it, and even then its still cheaper than netflix.

confessing to piracy isn't like some sort of crazy revelation. I don't know a single person who hasn't pirated at least one piece of media in their lives. It's actually just a part of modern living at this point.

Just because everyone has done it doesnt make it ethical. Hundreds of people worked on these games we play, and so must be rewarded with my purchase. If its an older game thats not available anywhere, then its ok to pirate imo.

[Dagoth Ur did nothing wrong]

Originally posted by johnpsy:

Originally posted by Wáng Yáng Bŭ Láo:

confessing to piracy isn't like some sort of crazy revelation. I don't know a single person who hasn't pirated at least one piece of media in their lives. It's actually just a part of modern living at this point.

Just because everyone has done it doesnt make it ethical. Hundreds of people worked on these games we play, and so must be rewarded with my purchase. If its an older game thats not available anywhere, then its ok to pirate imo.

I never said it was ethical. But you're not stealing food out of poor developers mouths by any standard. It's more like taking $60 out of a rich guys wallet. Is it morally good? No. Is it going to hurt him in any real tangible way? No. Will he even notice? Only if everyone he meets robs him. I'm not saying do it or that you should always do it because paying for things is stupid, I'm just saying use your judgement. It's not as bad as you're making it sound. It's as bad as taking a case of water from walmart. They'll get over it and have billions of dollars to replace it and in fact make more money off of you stealing it through loss write offs on taxes than if you bought it. Again NOT saying to do it, but stealing from a multi-billion dollar company is simply not the same as stealing from a person or a mom and pop store. Anyway, before steam bans me for thinking that I am condoning that sort of thing instead of using proper judgement, I'll stop.

[Tijger]

Originally posted by 5P3K73R:

I have a PC with a 3070 something GPU and it still can't manage 1080p.
The funniest part? My PS5 where I am playing it now can run this at 4K with RTX at 30fps at least.

Enjoy whining with your 2x cost PCs the PS5 is clearly the superior platform. Want to actually play the game? Stop being a nerd and get a PS5 instead.

And I've got mods on PC, PS5 loses.

[Kai]

Originally posted by 5P3K73R:

I have a PC with a 3070 something GPU and it still can't manage 1080p.
The funniest part? My PS5 where I am playing it now can run this at 4K with RTX at 30fps at least.

Enjoy whining with your 2x cost PCs the PS5 is clearly the superior platform. Want to actually play the game? Stop being a nerd and get a PS5 instead.

The reality is that Capcom changed something in the port.
They used Nvidia reflex to try to get DLSS 3.0 to basically replace the traditional render with AI ones. The CPU becomes idle and passes raw data for GPU to compute.

This means your CPU doesn't matter, it idles at like 15 watts.
And if you don't have a 4090 with tensor cores, it won't make use of the AI tech and will stop working optimally on AMD hardware.

This feels like the past shenanigans like Crysis 2 tessellations and Witcher 3's hairworks.