DD2 is good... what's going on?

[Wenzel]

where are these negative reviews coming from?

Is it the console kiddie stormfront?

[FrozenStar]

Originally posted by TurbantinoMistico:

Originally posted by Blackfox Kitsune:

it's a mix of a few thing
first day bugs,
failed promises (they promised more than 1 save file, and we get 1 save file we have to turn ultra techie to delete)
Poor optimisation for anyone not of the nevida card they use at the dev office
AND the people that call themselves w spend their lives looking for things to be offended about for literally no reason.

Bro 4090 7800x3d still 30 fps in main city and really bad optimization

1080p master peaceful gaming
3060 ti, ryzen 7 5800x
high settings
Stable 60fps

[Despina]

Great game, trash optimization which is a shame

[The Aegis]

No idea, I’m enjoying it

[Aldain]

Originally posted by TurbantinoMistico:

Originally posted by Blackfox Kitsune:

it's a mix of a few thing
first day bugs,
failed promises (they promised more than 1 save file, and we get 1 save file we have to turn ultra techie to delete)
Poor optimisation for anyone not of the nevida card they use at the dev office
AND the people that call themselves w spend their lives looking for things to be offended about for literally no reason.

Bro 4090 7800x3d still 30 fps in main city and really bad optimization

You know the stupid thing?

I've seen benchmarks even getting this to run on something like a 1660ti + i7-9750H, which should be well below the threshold but somehow it still runs in the ballpark of 30fps at 1080p...about as well as it does for some people with significantly better hardware.

I have no idea how the optimization can be that all over the place.

[Necropants]

Welcome to gaming in 2024 Everyone's got to cry about everything. and people hate MTX (rightfully so) so much they will be as toxic as possible to try scare publishers into not putting them in.

That said it's pretty annoying because capcom has been doing these practises for years now in all their games and until recently they were the darlings of gaming again. Yet the MTX practises where pretty much the same as we are getting here like they were in DMC. that is .. not only optional but not worth buying at all if you actually want to play the game.... pretty much everything is available in game.

Also more misinformation about not being able to play more than one character (seriously, learn to computer) and performance which although not perfect how many games in this day and age release perfectly optimised? Sure really should have been built into the game but it's basically exactly like DD1 in these regards. The travel system too.

Basically a massive knee jerk over reaction fed by Drama farmer content creators on you tube who probably havent even playd the game for the most part.

[diji]

Originally posted by FrozenStar:

People are hystertic and can't read past a couple of scary words.
The game is great.
Some performance issues, sure, the game is very CPU-intensive, but nothing that won't be fixed soon.

I'll be very surprised if it's fixed in under 3 months

[Elnidfse]

Originally posted by Blackfox Kitsune:

Originally posted by Wenzel:

where are these negative reviews coming from?

Is it the console kiddie stormfront?

it's a mix of a few thing
first day bugs,
failed promises (they promised more than 1 save file, and we get 1 save file we have to turn ultra techie to delete)
Poor optimisation for anyone not of the nevida card they use at the dev office
AND the people that call themselves w spend their lives looking for things to be offended about for literally no reason.

They never promised more than 1 save file. Not once. Go look that up.
Optimization is pretty not good though. I have a pretty high end computer and I still can only get 100fps out of town and 60-70 in town.

[🐺Blue Wolf]

1. Performance
2. A basic feature such as "New Game" not being included
3. MtX. They have zero place in single player games and there is no reasonable excuse to include them.

[Tanaro]

Originally posted by Diviance:

Originally posted by HereticRivga:

If you cannot see why people do not like this game then you are stupid.

I am loving the game, it is to my taste but I can see why this game is not for everyone.
1. Movement is clunky and lacks precision, if you come from a Elden ring type game this is more noticeable.
2. Graphics are what would have been good 15 years ago.
3. Story is only passable
4. Game is not optimised
5. UI and menu is top teir awful, the amount of clicks needed to do anything is far too much

All of the above is just of the top of my head and not including micro transaction, the chappy anti pirate software.

If you are sitting there saying the game is amazing and had no problems, then there is something wrong with you, equally if you are saying the game has nothing going for it then you are a moron too.
Truth is somewhere in the middle, this game is not for everyone and that is OK.

Elden Ring has way clunkier movement and is way less precise. Especially in combat. Souls-like games have some of the worst combat and controls in the industry.

Graphics are up to modern standards. Sure, not absolute top of the line... but they are definitely up to date.

Story was never the highlight of the DD series.

It does have bad CPU optimization.

The UI and menu are just fine. Better than Elden Ring.

I'm very bad at elden ring or souls like games, but the combat still feels a lot more fluid and precise than DD2.

graphics are absolutely not up to modern standards...

It looks worse than the remaster of witcher 3, worse than cyberpunk (came out like 3 or 4 years ago. it looks worse than RDR2 and also worse then Elden Ring. Yet the game performance horrible in comparison.

[ffrotty]

if you sort reviews by 8+ hours played it's "Very Positive"

this is just trolling/brigading

if you like this style game DD2's biggest negative is that it's more of DD1.

Every system, everything gameplay related and MTX related is only from people not aware of what DD is, if you enjoyed the first this is just more of that.

If you weren't aware, this has the same problems that made others NOT like DD... it can be seen as a mediocre/clunky version of witchers/zelda/insert_your_favoite_open_world_rpg

That said, the optimization is awful. The game is CPU capped, GPU doesn't even factor in.

People playing on PS5 do not have the performance problems and any fanatic of the series has recommended the PS version as the best version. PC controls/settings/etc are not polished to the point that this was likely developed as a PS5 game and ported everywhere else. I have a potatopc and it runs about as good as my broz $3000 modern rig. That makes people upset, rightfully so.

From a DD1 fan: all of the MTX is ignorable. In fact this game feels far more accessible and robust than DD1 to the point that it's trivially easy.

The performance issues are real. The various benchmarks I've seen seem to be theoretical and not actually done via real playing of the game. 100% of the DLC/DRM gripes are valid.

But again, the reviews are basically review bombs from a few forums/discords waging general war against that they couldn't make children-ish characters in the creator / against capcom / against steam / against capitalist democracy. All basically ignorable and could be applied (and have been) across the boards on basically every new release in the past few years.

I personally think this is close to a best case scenario with MTX. It's an option for people who are going to put 100s of hours into the game to support the game. The value for the cost is minuscule to the point that it's not even really alluring to buy the MTX.

[ffrotty]

Originally posted by Lugg:

It looks worse than the remaster of witcher 3, worse than cyberpunk (came out like 3 or 4 years ago. it looks worse than RDR2 and also worse then Elden Ring. Yet the game performance horrible in comparison.

Yes, and DD1 was equally subpar in the graphics themselves, at that time, to allow the gameplay to do what it does.

witcher 3 came out 3 years after dragon's dogma 1. and this is just a beefed up DD1.


The person saying "souls games have the worst combat and controls" is absolutely delusional. They actually said "souls-like" which makes no sense because it's not like there's one company doing all soulslikes... so i'll assume they meant "ds/sekiro/elden."

Those games were heralded for how the hitboxes and controls worked, and the fluidity/accuracy of all of the various weapons/bosses. Yeah, they have their specific problems, but what is better if those are "the worst?"

Anything that has more fluidity does it by being more actiony/scripted, and anything more accurate is far less fluid...

So if you're saying soulslikes are "inaccurate" i don't know what you were playing when demon's souls came out that was anywhere near that quality.

[Skywalker]

I refunded because I can't rebind all keys. Maybe I am old, but I am used to use the same keyboard and mouse buttons for moving and figthing in every game. So no rebinding all keys is a no go for me.

[Blackfox Kitsune]

Originally posted by TurbantinoMistico:

Originally posted by Blackfox Kitsune:

it's a mix of a few thing
first day bugs,
failed promises (they promised more than 1 save file, and we get 1 save file we have to turn ultra techie to delete)
Poor optimisation for anyone not of the nevida card they use at the dev office
AND the people that call themselves w spend their lives looking for things to be offended about for literally no reason.

Bro 4090 7800x3d still 30 fps in main city and really bad optimization

firstly not a bro XD (not offended though thanks for the complement), but yes the FPS is still nasty, not gonna lie.

[Ghart]

it's funny a lot of people are comparing the graphics or the gameplay movement to elden ring or any other game but never mentioned the first dragon dogma.

is it improvement from the first one? is it worse? they didn't know the answer because most people who whines never played the first game.

[Kai]

The only thing I notice is the design and layout of the game to frustrate you often.

If they can annoy you enough, then it might make mtx seems appealing, in their pov.

Ferrystones are very rare, usually found in chests at the end of medium sized dungeons or caves.

I have no idea where I got a port crystal, I think it was after the dullahan boss fight.