People who consider 60 fps "smooth" or "fine" shouldn't be allowed to post on steam

[AirSniffer]

This is not a console forum. Please go away.

[Alekero]

60 fps is golden standard for FINE and SMOOTH gameplay. Always has been. If you ok with anything below or even 30...well. You never seen 60 then lol and seems like never will.

[level3]

OP is based. 60 fps on OLED != 60 fps on ips/va. 60 fps is console tier.

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Messaggio originale di GamingWithSilvertail:

Messaggio originale di Sir Dookface McFerretballs:

60fps actually is smooth and fine compared to the standard that used to be 24fps for movies and 30fps for games. And even after 90fps, it is hard for the human eye to tell any difference above that. :marten_sip:

What standard was 30 FPS on PC games? The standard for PC games has always been 60.

Even the nes or snes did 60.

I think PC games 60 FPS have been standard since early 90's?

No. Not even close.
We were playing in much lower resolution back then, and no one - NO ONE - was gaming at high FPS, as the hardware for such things had not been invented.
Talk to anyone who played Operation Flashpoint when it launched...

[nul]

Messaggio originale di J0ust:

Messaggio originale di Xaro:

This is not a console forum. Please go away.

And people who think a singleplayer RPG needs more than 60fps are idiots. This isn't CSGO, champ.

I am sorry if you think my motion sickness troubles are idiotic.

[BingusDingus]

60fps would be fine if it felt like 60fps, i'm running it at a capped 90 fps and it feels way less than 90fps. It feels normal if i turn Vsync off, but then the FPS tanks everytime I so much as move.

[Kenuty]

Unless you are esporting or competitive gaming you don't need over 60 fps
you'll be fine and live.

[GamingWithSilvertail]

Messaggio originale di H:

Messaggio originale di GamingWithSilvertail:

What standard was 30 FPS on PC games? The standard for PC games has always been 60.

Even the nes or snes did 60.

I think PC games 60 FPS have been standard since early 90's?

No. Not even close.
We were playing in much lower resolution back then, and no one - NO ONE - was gaming at high FPS, as the hardware for such things had not been invented.
Talk to anyone who played Operation Flashpoint when it launched...

?
What? That game ran fine on my p3 with 60 fps on my 3dfx voodoo 3000...

And yes, it was 60 FPS. Infact, CRT monitors where usually 60-85 FPS by default...

[BimboGooch]

Messaggio originale di Xaro:

This is not a console forum. Please go away.

It is smooth enough. Id pref at least like 72 fps or above. That 10-12 fps makes a huge dif.
Also with gsyc 60 does feel fairly smooth compared to non gsync.
Also most new games if you play on max settings youre not going to get a like 120 fps (most new good lookin games).

With parts getting better, it means games look better meaning your fps games from generation to generation wont be all that much better.
Tech that adds dlss and frame gen are what is going to make games run smoother.

Since I started playing pc games, (gtx 500 series era+) Games have always ran about the same on the high end cards. 60 to 100 fps... its not really changed from that lol till recently with dlss and or frame gen or both

[Lieutenant Dan]

the human eye

[cos-buster]

Messaggio originale di GamingWithSilvertail:

Messaggio originale di Sir Dookface McFerretballs:

60fps actually is smooth and fine compared to the standard that used to be 24fps for movies and 30fps for games. And even after 90fps, it is hard for the human eye to tell any difference above that. :marten_sip:

What standard was 30 FPS on PC games? The standard for PC games has always been 60.

Even the nes or snes did 60.

I think PC games 60 FPS have been standard since early 90's?

I presume you weren't playing on PC in the 90s. Doom was running at 35 fps and when Quake and Quake 2 or other impressive games were released people often weren't even getting 30fps and were still happy to play.

[GamingWithSilvertail]

Messaggio originale di cos-buster:

Messaggio originale di GamingWithSilvertail:

What standard was 30 FPS on PC games? The standard for PC games has always been 60.

Even the nes or snes did 60.

I think PC games 60 FPS have been standard since early 90's?

I presume you weren't playing on PC in the 90s. Doom was running at 35 fps and when Quake and Quake 2 or other impressive games were released people often weren't even getting 30fps and were still happy to play.

If doom was capped to 35 for you then you capped your FPS.

[Aldain]

Messaggio originale di cos-buster:

Messaggio originale di GamingWithSilvertail:

What standard was 30 FPS on PC games? The standard for PC games has always been 60.

Even the nes or snes did 60.

I think PC games 60 FPS have been standard since early 90's?

I presume you weren't playing on PC in the 90s. Doom was running at 35 fps and when Quake and Quake 2 or other impressive games were released people often weren't even getting 30fps and were still happy to play.

...Weren't PC graphics in the 90s also like...usually just 2D a lot of the time still?

I mean obviously not everything was, but something like Baldur's Gate 1 came out in 98 and that has...aged visually in my humble opinion.

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Messaggio originale di GamingWithSilvertail:

Messaggio originale di H:

No. Not even close.
We were playing in much lower resolution back then, and no one - NO ONE - was gaming at high FPS, as the hardware for such things had not been invented.
Talk to anyone who played Operation Flashpoint when it launched...

?
What? That game ran fine on my p3 with 60 fps on my 3dfx voodoo 3000...

And yes, it was 60 FPS. Infact, CRT monitors where usually 60-85 FPS by default...

No it didn't. Plus, due to the engine it ran in, you could never get an FPS readout

[GamingWithSilvertail]

Messaggio originale di H:

Messaggio originale di GamingWithSilvertail:

?

What? That game ran fine on my p3 with 60 fps on my 3dfx voodoo 3000...

And yes, it was 60 FPS. Infact, CRT monitors where usually 60-85 FPS by default...

No it didn't. Plus, due to the engine it ran in, you could never get an FPS readout

Fraps was a thing back in the day that people used to record footage, but was also a fps counter.

Same for crossfire

[EmperorVolo]

Messaggio originale di Xaro:

This is not a console forum. Please go away.

I have 90fps with 4K resolution, Raytracing and max settings on a 3080TI sooo....game smooth as butter. Obviously I'd have more at a lower resolution or lower settings. Is everyone trying to play it maxed out too?