Much better than Elden Ring

[Jedi]

if you want to slay big and small versions of the same bosses 50 times, play Elden Ring.

Dragons Dogma 2 is a much better rpg game than ER.

[DESTARD]

I didn't think much of Elden Ring it's ok at times I still haven't finished it.

[Johnathon Fortnite]

Originally posted by Jobko:

Originally posted by Johnathon Fortnite:

ER's biggest issue was that it was open world imo, souls like formula doesn't fit open world too well honestly. Well designed tight areas, castles and gothic ♥♥♥♥ fit dark souls well for a reason

ER had a lot of areas like that, where you spent a majority of your time. The open world pretty much just stitched these levels together. I'd argue that some areas were better than the interconnectedness and level design of Dark Souls 1, which imo had the best in the Souls series.

agreed but a lot of the game also took place inbetween those areas just running around and exploring. which is fun but the second or third time round? Not quite so much, dark souls was so replayable for me because solid world design and constant uptime with little downtime. The down time in elden ring is pretty high. That and I hated the bosses in elden ring tbh (I love aoe magic bosses)

[Jobko]

Originally posted by Johnathon Fortnite:

Originally posted by Jobko:

If I took the opinion of most of the people in these forums, Elden Ring is the worse game ever made, and Dragon's Dogma is the perfect game with no problems whatsoever.

Then we look at stats and reality, and you realise that ER outsold DDDA on such a ridiculous scale it's not even comparable, and basically everyone in the gaming space knows about it, while DDDA was a niche cult-classic. Not only that but ER was extremely well reviewed by users and critics alike, and got GOTY.

yeah ddda and elden ring also released in very different times lol with a MUCH bigger hype around it. I do agree though, ddda is a niche game and I'm surprised dd2 is even a thing. But his comment was just goofy.
>there's no replayability in dragons dogma!!!
yea there is lol

I never said there was no replayability, what?

It's more so that people act like ER was a horrible game that did everything wrong. If someone mentions enemy variety by comparison, they say that everything in ER was copy pasted, not unique, and every enemy was just small and big versions of each other, with hardly any unique enemies out of the 200+ that existed. Though if you played the game, that's not true at all.

If someone mentions the combat of ER being good, they say it sucks and is just press dodge roll and nothing else, and that DDDA had better combat and bosses.

Like I wonder how many people here have actually played ER, because it sounds like they haven't.

[^7rrr^5a^6u^5l^5i^6e^7lul]

I gave up elden ring later in the game because the formula got really old really fast. That said, elden ring has so much variety in its environments, DD2 looks like an absolute snoozefest in that regard, and apart from the sorcery stuff which looks really cool the combat seems to be just.. okay?

[Jobko]

Originally posted by fox:

Originally posted by Jobko:

If I took the opinion of most of the people in these forums, Elden Ring is the worse game ever made, and Dragon's Dogma is the perfect game with no problems whatsoever.

Then we look at stats and reality, and you realise that ER outsold DDDA on such a ridiculous scale it's not even comparable, and basically everyone in the gaming space knows about it, while DDDA was a niche cult-classic. Not only that but ER was extremely well reviewed by users and critics alike, and got GOTY.

That just makes it a successful game. Do you think Fortnite is one of the best games around? Also Elden Ring had insane hype and marketing. I think it even appeared on a Superbowl ad.

I understand. I'm not saying popular = good, which is why I also mentioned reviews in my statement. It's more so that since I've been in this forums, I've noticed 9/10 people hate Elden Ring, and purposefully use it as way to bolster up hype for DD2 to say DD2 will be the best game ever. But when you look at statistics you realise all of this is just an echo chamber.

[Johnathon Fortnite]

Originally posted by Jobko:

Originally posted by Johnathon Fortnite:

yeah ddda and elden ring also released in very different times lol with a MUCH bigger hype around it. I do agree though, ddda is a niche game and I'm surprised dd2 is even a thing. But his comment was just goofy.
>there's no replayability in dragons dogma!!!
yea there is lol

I never said there was no replayability, what?

It's more so that people act like ER was a horrible game that did everything wrong. If someone mentions enemy variety by comparison, they say that everything in ER was copy pasted, not unique, and every enemy was just small and big versions of each other, with hardly any unique enemies out of the 200+ that existed. Though if you played the game, that's not true at all.

If someone mentions the combat of ER being good, they say it sucks and is just press dodge roll and nothing else, and that DDDA had better combat and bosses.

Like I wonder how many people here have actually played ER, because it sounds like they haven't.

I didn't say you said that? I didn't mean to anyway, I was talking about eldrins comment.
also who tf is saying ER is bad lol, you gotta be short a few chromosomes to say that tbh

[Jobko]

Originally posted by ^3P^2P^3P^5AULIE:

I gave up elden ring later in the game because the formula got really old really fast. That said, elden ring has so much variety in its environments, DD2 looks like an absolute snoozefest in that regard, and apart from the sorcery stuff which looks really cool the combat seems to be just.. okay?

I agree. ER had the best art direction for an open world gave I've ever seen. Each area looked super unique and interesting. While DD2 is just rock, grass, desert, water, and nothing else.

[Jobko]

Originally posted by Johnathon Fortnite:

Originally posted by Jobko:

I never said there was no replayability, what?

It's more so that people act like ER was a horrible game that did everything wrong. If someone mentions enemy variety by comparison, they say that everything in ER was copy pasted, not unique, and every enemy was just small and big versions of each other, with hardly any unique enemies out of the 200+ that existed. Though if you played the game, that's not true at all.

If someone mentions the combat of ER being good, they say it sucks and is just press dodge roll and nothing else, and that DDDA had better combat and bosses.

Like I wonder how many people here have actually played ER, because it sounds like they haven't.

I didn't say you said that? I didn't mean to anyway, I was talking about eldrins comment.
also who tf is saying ER is bad lol, you gotta be short a few chromosomes to say that tbh

A LOT of people. I had many arguments with people who kept hating on it as leverage for why DD2s lack of enemy variety, open world, and other factors were lacking. Just look up Elden Ring or "ER" and read through some of the comments.

[En.Ki]

Originally posted by Johnathon Fortnite:

Originally posted by Lon Don:

Elden Ring - I didn't have the time nor the patience to do the boss fights 50 times over before getting a win, and each time I died in the game, going back to a checkpoint and doing stuff again, got tiring, fast. It was an amazing game, graphics, story, setting, a bit spoiled by being a Souls game, basically, for those of us who are a bit more time-poor, or, who simply want to get more in-game stuff done during the play time that we have available. I achieved about 50% of it and got red up, basically.

I accept that my dislike of the things in Elden that frustrated me, is on me, and no-one else's fault, and that many love the game. It is remarkable, just not for me.


Dogma sounds more my kind of thing.

ER's biggest issue was that it was open world imo, souls like formula doesn't fit open world too well honestly. Well designed tight areas, castles and gothic ♥♥♥♥ fit dark souls well for a reason

Wrong. Open world was the best thing happend to the Elden Ring or a Souls like Game. pipe level games are for idiots.

[Shield]

I would be utterly stunned if DD2 even scratches what Elden Ring managed to achieve. And I like DD2.

[Johnathon Fortnite]

Originally posted by En.Ki:

Originally posted by Johnathon Fortnite:

ER's biggest issue was that it was open world imo, souls like formula doesn't fit open world too well honestly. Well designed tight areas, castles and gothic ♥♥♥♥ fit dark souls well for a reason

Wrong. Open world was the best thing happend to the Elden Ring or a Souls like Game. pipe level games are for idiots.

ds1 had the best level design and that was a non linear linear game bro.

Originally posted by Jobko:

Originally posted by Johnathon Fortnite:

I didn't say you said that? I didn't mean to anyway, I was talking about eldrins comment.
also who tf is saying ER is bad lol, you gotta be short a few chromosomes to say that tbh

A LOT of people. I had many arguments with people who kept hating on it as leverage for why DD2s lack of enemy variety, open world, and other factors were lacking. Just look up Elden Ring or "ER" and read through some of the comments.

yea people like to forget that the quality of a game has a lot more steps than just le me think. Audio and sound design are criminally underrated parts of a critique for example

[AmnVoss]

Originally posted by Jobko:

Originally posted by Johnathon Fortnite:

yeah ddda and elden ring also released in very different times lol with a MUCH bigger hype around it. I do agree though, ddda is a niche game and I'm surprised dd2 is even a thing. But his comment was just goofy.
>there's no replayability in dragons dogma!!!
yea there is lol

I never said there was no replayability, what?

It's more so that people act like ER was a horrible game that did everything wrong. If someone mentions enemy variety by comparison, they say that everything in ER was copy pasted, not unique, and every enemy was just small and big versions of each other, with hardly any unique enemies out of the 200+ that existed. Though if you played the game, that's not true at all.

If someone mentions the combat of ER being good, they say it sucks and is just press dodge roll and nothing else, and that DDDA had better combat and bosses.

Like I wonder how many people here have actually played ER, because it sounds like they haven't.

Now I do not hate elden ring, it is a decent game I have 166 hours in it for a reason. You are not going to like this but I like it for the open world and dungeons as you actually got rewarded with weapons and armor for exploring unlike most open world games where stuff is just a checklist. The combat is decent and DD does have better combat and boss fights that actually felt epic at times (mainly the first fight with one) but that is a subjective opinion an objective opinion is that DD has more options as most vocations in DD:DA are a unique play style and having pawns leading to more fight outcomes whereas in ER was pretty basic. Now some prefer ER type combat but when it comes to souls games I like Nioh's combat the best, typical action rpgs I will go with DD:DA as the best in my opinion.

But I do not see how the two can be compared to one another as to what is better when they are drastically different styles of games.

[Jobko]

Originally posted by AmnVoss:

Originally posted by Jobko:

I never said there was no replayability, what?

It's more so that people act like ER was a horrible game that did everything wrong. If someone mentions enemy variety by comparison, they say that everything in ER was copy pasted, not unique, and every enemy was just small and big versions of each other, with hardly any unique enemies out of the 200+ that existed. Though if you played the game, that's not true at all.

If someone mentions the combat of ER being good, they say it sucks and is just press dodge roll and nothing else, and that DDDA had better combat and bosses.

Like I wonder how many people here have actually played ER, because it sounds like they haven't.

Now I do not hate elden ring, it is a decent game I have 166 hours in it for a reason. You are not going to like this but I like it for the open world and dungeons as you actually got rewarded with weapons and armor for exploring unlike most open world games where stuff is just a checklist. The combat is decent and DD does have better combat and boss fights that actually felt epic at times (mainly the first fight with one) but that is a subjective opinion an objective opinion is that DD has more options as most vocations in DD:DA are a unique play style and having pawns leading to more fight outcomes whereas in ER was pretty basic. Now some prefer ER type combat but when it comes to souls games I like Nioh's combat the best, typical action rpgs I will go with DD:DA as the best in my opinion.

But I do not see how the two can be compared to one another as to what is better when they are drastically different styles of games.

I'd say my favourite ARPG experiences go to DMC5 and MHW. MHW I actually hated at first. The constant running/tracking monsters, as well as the sheathing mechanics... It felt so clunky. However after playing quite a bit, I've grown to really love it. Super interested to see where they take the series, and I picked up Rise for more gameplay down the line.

I love FS games a lot, as the back and forward never-taking damage gameplay is really appealing to me. If you like more over-the-top effects and stuff, then I can understand finding it boring.

[Jobko]

DDDA's combat is great, but the difficulty really kills it a lot of the time for me. I never found the game overly hard, unless I was poorly prepared, which most of the time wasn't the case. The fights are really epic the first time you fight anything, but on repeated attempts it's not as long-lasting as MHW and how each fight is seriously such a challenge to perfect and get good at.

[Malice Shadows]

Originally posted by Senki:

elden ring has the most amount of enemy variety in any open world game and I doubt dragon's dogma 2 will have more lmao

lol Elden Ring does not have the most at all. there are plenty of open world MMO's that have way more enemies then Elden ring could ever hope to have.