Enigma DRM?

[Mystical Spork]

Will this game have it?

Why aren't more people complaining to Capcom about it?

It's literally Russian malware disguised as DRM and can have root access into your PC and you wouldn't know it until years down the line.

[VDRSK]

The Enigma panic has passed you'll see it pop up occasionally by not it's pretty widely understood it's nothing more then misinformation as it has been analyzed by people who are experts in the field.

It doesn't stop steamdeck from being used, it isn't malware and it doesn't cause performance issues (unless implemented improperly which is the developers fault not the DRM), It does stop modding but not really any more the Denuvo already stops modding.

[JtDarth]

Originally posted by VDRSK:

The Enigma panic has passed you'll see it pop up occasionally by not it's pretty widely understood it's nothing more then misinformation as it has been analyzed by people who are experts in the field.

It doesn't stop steamdeck from being used, it isn't malware and it doesn't cause performance issues (unless implemented improperly which is the developers fault not the DRM), It does stop modding but not really any more the Denuvo already stops modding.

Got some sourcing to those supposed 'experts in the field' who analyzed it and said it was fine? Or is that another case of misinformation being spread?

Because the only case of experts talking about it I can find is IBM's white hats talking about it being used multiple times as a malware delivery method. Just saying.

[Purromi]

they really using russian software that root pc? on a edge of a war with russia?

[Dovah]

Once Capcom stops paying for Denuvo they will add Enigma and/or Obsidian in its place. All 3 are bad for consumers, but all we can do is vote with our wallet.

[VDRSK]

Originally posted by JtDarth:

Got some sourcing to those supposed 'experts in the field' who analyzed it and said it was fine? Or is that another case of misinformation being spread?

Because the only case of experts talking about it I can find is IBM's white hats talking about it being used multiple times as a malware delivery method. Just saying.

Malwarebytes analyzed a lot of it, and a few other anti-virus sites I would have to look for the specific forums. The virustotal image that was floating around was just a renamed file i believe so that is on the "malware" front

On the modding and steam deck front modders have said it really doesn't stop mods and and there are Engima protected games that are running perfectly fine on steam deck.

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Originally posted by VDRSK:

Malwarebytes analyzed a lot of it, and a few other anti-virus sites I would have to look for the specific forums. The virustotal image that was floating around was just a renamed file i believe so that is on the "malware" front

On the modding and steam deck front modders have said it really doesn't stop mods and and there are Engima protected games that are running perfectly fine on steam deck.

You reiterating what you said before isn't siting your source. Which is what the guy was asking for.

[VDRSK]

Originally posted by 🆂🆈🅽🅿🅰🆃🅷🆈:

You reiterating what you said before isn't siting your source. Which is what the guy was asking for.

Very true.

https://forums.malwarebytes.com/topic/306752-the-enigma-protector-capcom/

malwarebytes is pretty well known so ill just leave this here but other antivirus sites did a check and found nothing but i couldn't find those posts.


on the modding front:

he wrote a indepth post but i couldn't find it but here is him saying lots of misinfo.

https://twitter.com/Fluffyquack/status/1745633610122551379

for reference he is a prevalent modder in the capcom scene.

[Deviant]

wtf is enigma? i thought denuvo is the best DRM? EHM I MEANT and most malicious performance heavy DRM

[VDRSK]

Originally posted by Deviant:

wtf is enigma? i thought denuvo is the best DRM? EHM I MEANT and most malicious performance heavy DRM

It is. And they are clearly aware of this because Denuvo went subscription meaning at some point it isn't worth keeping Denuvo in for the developer, Enigma from the trends recently seen is added AFTER Denuvo is removed.

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Personally this whole DRM crap is corporate hitting check boxes while trying to "lower costs"

Why not hiring your own people to make your own service that is tailored to by a specialist team for each game/service? it's obviously the better choice, it's obviously got better long term results....but no saving an extra couple bucks to lose a couple bucks later makes more sense....

[Mystical Spork]

Originally posted by Deviant:

wtf is enigma? i thought denuvo is the best DRM? EHM I MEANT and most malicious performance heavy DRM

Denuvo sucks but Enigma is way worse because I've read it can work as a trojan for viruses to access your PC. It might not be now, but maybe after a few years if you have these games installed they might have already contained rootkit malware that will infect your computer. It's something I see as concerning enough to start a lawsuit with Capcom, or at least bring attention to some consumer rights advocates over this issue.

If any of you think you're being funny by giving clown awards for most of these comments, at least try to prove that I'm wrong instead of making yourselves look like the actual clowns.
Understand that software like Mcaffee that comes pre-installed with some Windows PC's is also known to be completely useless and slows down your computer while allowing viruses in it.

I see this as a reason to be outraged and you should too. Capcom are the real bunch of idiots here for being petty with mods and cheapening out on buying the lowest priced DRM for their back catalog of games, and presumably their new games once license with Denuvo expires.

[Mystical Spork]

Originally posted by Dovah:

Once Capcom stops paying for Denuvo they will add Enigma and/or Obsidian in its place. All 3 are bad for consumers, but all we can do is vote with our wallet.

Boy, you vote by being as loud and vocal as possible so they realize that they messed up. The only way is to annoy them to get their attention. What's a couple boycotts going to do when the vast majority of people who buy these products don't know about this whole situation?

We need to bring this to the attention of consumer rights advocates since it's a really concerning issue when we're talking about viruses being installed without the average person knowing.

[dachte]

I'm holding off on the game until and unless they remove this crud. Hopefully I won't have to wait too long, but there are tons of other great games out there without obnoxious DRM so even if I miss this game entirely, it won't be a tragedy. Still interested if they ever remove it though.

[[-iD-]]

the initial claim is that its russian malware that has ring0 access. prove it.

[JtDarth]

Originally posted by -iD-:

the initial claim is that its russian malware that has ring0 access. prove it.

No, that is not the initial claim. Butt out if you are going to be unproductive.