What is Denuvo and why you should avoid it

[Jarko]

Originally posted by Onigiuri:

Denuvo Anti-Tamper is DRM software used to obfuscate code during the compiling process. This makes it harder for pirates/crackers to crack the software through reverse-engineering. This software has no bearing on the operating system as it is built into the executable. It (anecdotally) may cause game performance issues at times but that is the extent of it. This is what people generally are talking about when they say a game has "Denuvo".

Denuvo Anti-Cheat (henceforth DAC) is the new anti-cheat introduced. It is an extremely invasive anti-cheat software that runs at ring-0 (kernel level) of your operating system which gives it full access to your machine.

Please do not make the all too common error of thinking these two things are one and the same.


1- DAC should not be installed if you have not run the game since the latest update. There are anecdotal reports of it being installed even when people didn't run the game (in some games that uses the denuvo anti-cheat) but I have no way to verify these. Also you are giving your pc information to DENUVO after installing the program.

2- With the program installed they (Denuvo company) will find everything about your pc it's a malware anti cheat.

[This PC]

https://www.pcgamingwiki.com/wiki/Denuvo#Controversy
This game does not run Denuvo Anti-Cheat.

[Shoah Kahn]

DRM malware that hog resources and causes crashes. I'm experiencing Denuvo woes right now, in SF6 -- game crashes in ways never before [Denuvo] thought possible.

[m_train1]

Originally posted by Shoah Kahn:

DRM malware that hog resources and causes crashes. I'm experiencing Denuvo woes right now, in SF6 -- game crashes in ways never before [Denuvo] thought possible.

It's not Denuvo. Denuvo has no noticeable impact on SF6 or most games. Something is going on with your PC.

[This PC]

Originally posted by Shoah Kahn:

DRM malware that hog resources and causes crashes. I'm experiencing Denuvo woes right now, in SF6 -- game crashes in ways never before [Denuvo] thought possible.

Can you back up your claims ?

[Mad Lad]

Originally posted by This PC:

https://www.pcgamingwiki.com/wiki/Denuvo#Controversy
This game does not run Denuvo Anti-Cheat.

I opened your link and I can read this game does run Denuvo anti-Cheat.

[LXE]

Originally posted by Mad Lad:

Originally posted by This PC:

https://www.pcgamingwiki.com/wiki/Denuvo#Controversy
This game does not run Denuvo Anti-Cheat.

I opened your link and I can read this game does run Denuvo anti-Cheat.

No. That link says it uses Denuvo Anti-Tamper. Read the first post in this thread.

[Amon]

Game already has mods out... heheee

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Enigma

[Deviant]

Originally posted by This PC:

https://www.pcgamingwiki.com/wiki/Denuvo#Controversy
This game does not run Denuvo Anti-Cheat.

thats a lie

[Deviant]

Originally posted by m_train1:

Originally posted by Shoah Kahn:

DRM malware that hog resources and causes crashes. I'm experiencing Denuvo woes right now, in SF6 -- game crashes in ways never before [Denuvo] thought possible.

It's not Denuvo. Denuvo has no noticeable impact on SF6 or most games. Something is going on with your PC.

denuvo affect performance its been proven with games cracked who dont have denuvo and with same game with denuvo

[[-iD-]]

Originally posted by Deviant:

Originally posted by This PC:

https://www.pcgamingwiki.com/wiki/Denuvo#Controversy
This game does not run Denuvo Anti-Cheat.

thats a lie

the game doesn't run denuvo anti-cheat.

[Dam Stark]

Unfortunately most people don't seem to care that they don't own the things they pay for. I will be waiting until it is removed for a purchase as usual.

[EricHVela]

Originally posted by -iD-:

Originally posted by Deviant:

thats a lie

the game doesn't run denuvo anti-cheat.

This^

Denuvo Anti-tampering =/= Denuvo Anti-Cheat.

Denuvo Anti-tampering attempts to discourage reverse engineering, altering, and injecting specific code for an application but has no awareness beyond the application itself. It tries to prevent piracy (albeit unsuccessfully for many applications). These games can run under standard user permissions. (Standard user is a good practice to mitigate a lot of malware.)

Denuvo Anti-Cheat (a different product) installs at kernel level and has difficulty working under Windows 11's Core Isolation. It attempts to see everything that's going on with a workstation whether related to the application or not. These games almost always ask for elevated permissions if not an unrestricted admin already. (Bad practice to be UAC-less Admin.)

This game has Denuvo Anti-tampering, not Denuvo Anti-Cheat.

Denuvo Anti-tampering seems to possibly affect the performance of specific systems but not reported on a wide variety of systems.

I think the OP feels that the mere existence of Denuvo Anti-Cheat even though not related to DD2 means that no Denuvo product should be supported at all.

Meh. AFAIK without doing any reverse engineering, I haven't had performance issues on my PC with Denuvo Anti-tampering games.

I won't disable core-isolation for nobody, though. I'll just keep my core isolation and not play those online games. Thanks.

("Turning off core isolation doesn't lower security even though it stops something that hackers use to compromise systems, and Microsoft shoulda never closed that exploit." -old, outdated anti-cheat services who refuse to innovate and find a safer way)

[Dailao]

Originally posted by Deviant:

Originally posted by This PC:

https://www.pcgamingwiki.com/wiki/Denuvo#Controversy
This game does not run Denuvo Anti-Cheat.

thats a lie

You did not read the first post. The link has a table with DD2 on it, but it is a table for Anti-Tamper and not for Anti-Cheat.

[cudadown]

Originally posted by Jarko:

Originally posted by Onigiuri:

Denuvo Anti-Tamper is DRM software used to obfuscate code during the compiling process. This makes it harder for pirates/crackers to crack the software through reverse-engineering. This software has no bearing on the operating system as it is built into the executable. It (anecdotally) may cause game performance issues at times but that is the extent of it. This is what people generally are talking about when they say a game has "Denuvo".

Denuvo Anti-Cheat (henceforth DAC) is the new anti-cheat introduced. It is an extremely invasive anti-cheat software that runs at ring-0 (kernel level) of your operating system which gives it full access to your machine.

Please do not make the all too common error of thinking these two things are one and the same.


1- DAC should not be installed if you have not run the game since the latest update. There are anecdotal reports of it being installed even when people didn't run the game (in some games that uses the denuvo anti-cheat) but I have no way to verify these. Also you are giving your pc information to DENUVO after installing the program.

2- With the program installed they (Denuvo company) will find everything about your pc it's a malware anti cheat.

Its ok. I have protection installed for my computer so these things wont effect me. Its just a hard patch called idgaf . dll. I'm perfectly fine to buy this game now.