Dragon's Dogma 2

Dragon's Dogma 2

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Jester Sep 21, 2023 @ 7:14am
This game looks like it made for PS4
I am conflicted on whether I should call out how awful this game looks since this is this game's actual design to look as your standard fantasy or look as boring as possible back on Dragon's dogma 1 but man this just looks so outdated today.
They showed gameplay and I am so unimpressed jesus from gameplay,etc. Like man at least make the town brimming with people or something.
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Dovah Sep 21, 2023 @ 10:12am 
If it has better performance because of it, I’d take that any day over just turning graphics up to 11.

I’m just glad they kept the art style.
PSY Sep 21, 2023 @ 10:19am 
3
Good, more time invested in things that actually matter
Shift Sep 21, 2023 @ 10:30am 
With the current of influx of games with barely better graphics that suddely ask for high-end hardware to play on 1080p@30, I'm okay with this.

Besides, the art style looks good and art style > realistic graphics all day long.
toughnails Sep 21, 2023 @ 10:45am 
It does pretty much look like a remaster of the first game, which deflated my excitement by a lot. The game design is just stuck in 2012, and some bits are ever worse than the first game, e.g. you can no longer equip 1 melee + 1 ranged weapon, they're all different classes now, you have to respec to use a bow, and the archers can't use anything other than a bow. That's just so dumb. Switching between melee and ranged is like the bread and butter of open world games.

The combat is overall very floaty, enemies don't react to being hit, mages still have insanely long cast times, only the thief class can actually dodge. Feels like an MMO with some fancy animations, tbh.

Also no mounts, no biome variety, no multiplayer of any kind.
seven_legs Sep 21, 2023 @ 12:01pm 
you must of had a special type of PS4
Paraskeet Sep 21, 2023 @ 12:38pm 
I like the gameplay showcase but that the image quality is bad. there is no way to embellish the taa smearing in this game.

hopefully now after amd has been called out on forcing their inferior upscaling tech, they include dlss because fsr is only good at 100% res scale if you plan to replace AA with it. anything below that and it's a smear fiesta
Paraskeet Sep 21, 2023 @ 12:38pm 
Originally posted by seven_legs:
you must of had a special type of PS4
it's called PSeX
Jester Sep 21, 2023 @ 12:49pm 
Originally posted by seven_legs:
you must of had a special type of PS4
Yeah the type that runs Ghost of Tsushima just fine. That game might be too much for you if you're impressed with Dogma 2's primitive design.
solidap Sep 21, 2023 @ 1:26pm 
What exactly are you kids vaping these days? It looks amazing, way better than FF7 Demake. And it actually has physics and AI more advanced than the trainers from Pokemon Blue, so it's automatically more impressive than most of your favorite current gen games without even looking at the graphics
Deadoon Sep 21, 2023 @ 1:30pm 
Artstyle > graphical fidelity.
Gameplay > graphics.
Jester Sep 21, 2023 @ 2:02pm 
Originally posted by Deadoon:
Artstyle > graphical fidelity.
Gameplay > graphics.
Dragon's dogma has ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ art style so I don't know what you're on about but that's it appeal but it doesn't make it any less ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥.
Gameplay sure.
Deadoon Sep 21, 2023 @ 2:13pm 
Originally posted by Sepulcher:
Originally posted by Deadoon:
Artstyle > graphical fidelity.
Gameplay > graphics.
Dragon's dogma has ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ art style so I don't know what you're on about but that's it appeal but it doesn't make it any less ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥.
Gameplay sure.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pWdd6_ZxX8c
Shook Ones Sep 21, 2023 @ 7:55pm 
It's all about combat
JtDarth Sep 21, 2023 @ 9:27pm 
Originally posted by Sepulcher:
Originally posted by Deadoon:
Artstyle > graphical fidelity.
Gameplay > graphics.
Dragon's dogma has ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ art style so I don't know what you're on about but that's it appeal but it doesn't make it any less ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥.
Gameplay sure.
Lol. I like how 'I don't like the greek mythology inspired designs in a western fantasy artstyle' somehow turns into 'the cohesive, consistent and flexible artstyle is ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥'.

The artstyle is actually really good. It doesn't have anything jarringly out of place to it (much like DD1, I suspect what incongruity shows up will be intentional) and isn't doing that silly artificially wide palette or 'fantasy colors' crap that most rpgs are doing.

The game doesn't look all that bad graphically, and it is absurd to me that people are basing their impressions of the game's visuals on a YT video that has had to go through multiple layers of compression.
Games don't need to push raw fidelity beyond what the hardware can handle to sell well and have a lasting impact. I personally find it deeply disturbing people act like playing with upscaling on is desirable. It's not. Games should be developed with a target of being playable at 1440p native med settings on upper mid-range hardware RELATIVE TO WHAT THE CURRENT MARKET HAS @60fps, not pushing things so far beyond what the hardware can actually handle that you have to rely on upscaling sub FHD to get playable performance.

Hell, the original DD was sub-par for the 360 and PS3, yet it still got a pc port after YEARS of begging from the dedicated community, alongside (then) newgen console ports.
Jester Sep 21, 2023 @ 9:53pm 
Originally posted by JtDarth:
Originally posted by Sepulcher:
Dragon's dogma has ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ art style so I don't know what you're on about but that's it appeal but it doesn't make it any less ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥.
Gameplay sure.
Lol. I like how 'I don't like the greek mythology inspired designs in a western fantasy artstyle' somehow turns into 'the cohesive, consistent and flexible artstyle is ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥'.

The artstyle is actually really good. It doesn't have anything jarringly out of place to it (much like DD1, I suspect what incongruity shows up will be intentional) and isn't doing that silly artificially wide palette or 'fantasy colors' crap that most rpgs are doing.

The game doesn't look all that bad graphically, and it is absurd to me that people are basing their impressions of the game's visuals on a YT video that has had to go through multiple layers of compression.
Games don't need to push raw fidelity beyond what the hardware can handle to sell well and have a lasting impact. I personally find it deeply disturbing people act like playing with upscaling on is desirable. It's not. Games should be developed with a target of being playable at 1440p native med settings on upper mid-range hardware RELATIVE TO WHAT THE CURRENT MARKET HAS @60fps, not pushing things so far beyond what the hardware can actually handle that you have to rely on upscaling sub FHD to get playable performance.

Hell, the original DD was sub-par for the 360 and PS3, yet it still got a pc port after YEARS of begging from the dedicated community, alongside (then) newgen console ports.

You can have a greek inspired design and not make it look boring as ♥♥♥♥.
The art style is bad. If you want an example of a game that graphically looks ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ but is carried by art style. Take a look at Tears of the kingdom. You wouldn't know good art style if it was in front of you literally.

So instead of trying to push the hardware they don't bother at all? The area design is still primitive as hell. Grassy Corridors with giant rocks to hide the map's background and a small circle waterfall masked by the terrain. Give me details, Give me something. It's 2023. It's no longer PS3.
You seem to think that me talking about how graphics means I'm primarily talking about concentrated pixels, No that's not what I'm talking about. Take a look at Monster hunter world's hub area. It's brimming with life and home town vibe. Now I'm not asking for Dragon's dogma to be Monster hunter but at least make up for with something. Enlarge the scope of markets, add more people or whatever.

Take a look at 4:52 of their gameplay trailer. Jesus NPC just standing around and NPCs just walking around following their pathing. What is this ♥♥♥♥ PS3 era?
Last edited by Jester; Sep 21, 2023 @ 9:54pm
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Date Posted: Sep 21, 2023 @ 7:14am
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