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Abyss_Walker Jun 16, 2013 @ 7:13pm
Thinking of getting Rocksmith. What do I need to get set up?
Hey everyone. Been keeping my eye on this for a while now. Only $10 on Amazon so I may get it.

I have an old guitar, I mean it's probably like 50 years old... Old acoustic thing. So obviously no way to connect that to my PC.

I just want a guitar that will work, where should I look? The cheaper the better, just want something to practice with.

Also how does it connect to the PC? Do I need a separate audio interface or a mixer or something?

And lastly, is this a good learning tool, or is it more of a game? And do you have to pay per song? I saw on Steam some songs we $3, man, my bill would be sky high if I was gonna buy every song I wanted to learn lol.

Thanks everyone.
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Abyss_Walker Jun 16, 2013 @ 7:23pm 
Oh I mentioned the question about a mixer/audio interface because I was thinking of getting one for my microphone, so if I got one and plugged a guitar into it, will Rockband work with it?
Schnittertm Jun 17, 2013 @ 12:55am 
So, to answer your questions:

1.) To get set up you obviously need a guitar which can be connected to a 1/4 inch | 6.35mm jack, which is every electric guitar or many acoustics with a pickup built in. As for which one you get is up to you, you might get a cheap one, like the Epiphone Les Paul Junior, which is also part of the bundle version of Rocksmith and should be enough to get started. They should cost you around a 100-150$. If you want to have a few more tonal options down the line and want a guitar of higher quality you might consider spending more.

You'll also need to buy the Rocksmith Realtone USB cable, without which you will not be able to connect the guitar to the game.

2.) Additional songs, beyond those included in the game, will usually have to be bought seperately at 3$ per song. There are band packs for some bands available, which make the songs contained in them a bit cheaper. Sometimes they'll also have larger song packs on sale, which is a good option to pick up a few songs up for a bit less money, but those offers are usually only for a limited time and you'd have to pay attention when they are available and what songs are contained, as this may have songs in it you already bought.

3.) Is it a good learning tool?

Yes and No. I started out as a total beginner and now, after eight months I certainly can do a few things on a guitar that I couldn't do when I started, though I still have a long way to go if I ever want to come close to mastering songs like Hangar 18 by Megadeth (was included in the guitar bundle I bought). There are quite a few things the game makes you practise through guitarcarde game, but never really explains, e.g. you have Scale runner, which teaches you more or less about some of the different scales available on a guitar, but never really explains why or for what you need them or what you can do with them.

In a way I see it more of as a song teaching tool that has the ability to keep your motivation up, as you can see your progress in a graphical display and in a score. You know you are getting good at a song if you can play it finally in master mode with 99-100% note accuracy. But the game is skipping a bit on the theoretical side of guitar play, which is something that you'll have to read up on or look for on youtube.

So in final, if you stick with it, it certainly will help you on your mechanical skills if you don't try to cheat, will give you an option to visualize your progress, but it will teach you almost nothing about musical theory.
Ace42 Jun 17, 2013 @ 6:30am 
Originally posted by Dawsbros:
Hey everyone. Been keeping my eye on this for a while now. Only $10 on Amazon so I may get it.

I have an old guitar, I mean it's probably like 50 years old... Old acoustic thing. So obviously no way to connect that to my PC.

You can get pick-ups that you plug into the sound-hole of an accoustic[www.ebay.co.uk] to make it work like an electro-coutic; but that relies on the guitar having appropriate strings and a decent set-up. Ditto for mic-to-jack amplification.

A sound-hole pick-up can be as cheap as £5 ($7.85 USD), but your mileage may vary regarding the reliability of one.

Your best bet is getting a dirt-cheap electric; there are tons of oriental import stratocaster knock-offs that are dirt cheap and will do fine to learn on. You can set up a cheap guitar yourself to get it sounding respectable.
http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=140659732

A quick look on eBay shows electrics available for £40 ($62USD) including P+P - if you are patient and careful about bidding; or can collect the guitar in person rather than shipping, could probably get one for a fraction of the price.

Remember that you'll want to get a fresh set of strings to go with it, which will add on another £5 ($7.85USD) or so on top.

I just want a guitar that will work, where should I look? The cheaper the better, just want something to practice with.

Any cheap electric will do as long as it has the "standard" jack.

Also how does it connect to the PC? Do I need a separate audio interface or a mixer or something?

You'll need an official Rocksmith Realtone Cable (available on Amazon, etc) to connect it - some bundles come with it, some don't. If you want to multiplay it (have a friend playing bass, etc) you'll need two cables. The cable will work on any platform, so you can use it to play on a friend's Xbox if he has Rocksmith, or vice versa, etc.

And lastly, is this a good learning tool, or is it more of a game?

I find it's a good balance between both. I've had it since Christmas, and I've come on in leaps and bounds from a complete novice. With a concerted effort to memorise a setlist I could probably now play my bass in a public setting without humiliating myself.

And do you have to pay per song? I saw on Steam some songs we $3, man, my bill would be sky high if I was gonna buy every song I wanted to learn lol.

Thanks everyone.

Yeah, the song prices are on the borderline of being "expensive" - but considering what you get (custom tones, the musical notation, the equivalent of an MP3 of the song, the lyrics, etc) I find the price is reasonable. It does encourage you to be "picky" about what you DL though. Consider that you might be playing a few songs a lot to "master" them, so that can help stagger your purchases over time as you polish off some tunes and move on to the next load.

Lastly - I use my PC's regular microphone (The same one I use for VOIP, Team Speak, Vent, etc, etc) for singing. Not sure how singing works on console, but I guess it might require a spare Realtone cable?
Last edited by Ace42; Jun 17, 2013 @ 7:05am
Abyss_Walker Jun 17, 2013 @ 7:57am 
Wow thanks for the info guys! Really helps me out. Hey is this a good pickup http://www.ebay.com/itm/KQ-3-Clip-on-Acoustic-Guitar-Pickup-Amplifier-Speaker-Sound-12-Hole-Black-/111020318158?pt=Guitar_Accessories&hash=item19d9539dce ? Think I may get that one.

Also does Rocksmith have "Floods" by Pantera? If I could play the intro I would be the happiest man alive.....
Ace42 Jun 17, 2013 @ 10:39am 
The first pick-up looked fine; second one I have no idea whatsoever. The guitar looks ok, if a bit crude, but again we know as much as you do just from looking at it. If you need info about how good a guitar is, you need to check proper guitar forums - they'll have a wider experience of tools.
grimlog Jun 17, 2013 @ 11:41am 
Originally posted by Dawsbros:
Does this look like a good guitar? http://www.guitarcenter.com/In-Store-Used-USED-FIRST-ACT-S-STYLE-ELEC-GTR-BLK-109012407-i3189837.gc
No. To be honest, you will not find a good guitar for that little money. You might find one that works somehow, but it will be far from good, sound- and handlingwise. To be on the safe side, go look for some Epiphone (cheap Gibson), Squier (cheap Fender) or LTD (cheap ESP). You also could look for Yamaha, Ibanez or Washburn - you'll get a good guitar for the money you pay. The better the guitar, the more fun you have playing it.
Abyss_Walker Jun 17, 2013 @ 1:01pm 
Originally posted by Ace42:
The first pick-up looked fine; second one I have no idea whatsoever. The guitar looks ok, if a bit crude, but again we know as much as you do just from looking at it. If you need info about how good a guitar is, you need to check proper guitar forums - they'll have a wider experience of tools.

How does the first pick up work with the computer? Will the Rocksmith cord plug into it? Or does the pick up plug into the computer somehow?
Schnittertm Jun 17, 2013 @ 3:40pm 
Both of the pickups you posted will not work, as the do not have any jack for the 1/4" plug of the Realtone cable to go into. Those pickups are meant for hooking up an acoustic to an amplifier.

As for guitar, if it really needs to be cheap, I had a look at that site you posted and they have this http://www.guitarcenter.com/In-Store-Used-USED-EPIPHONE-LES-PAUL-JUNIOR-ELEC-GTR-109086091-i3182997.gc on their page. It's an Epiphone Les Paul junior, used for 70$ and is the same guitar that would come with the Rocksmith guitar bundle. I bought that bundle when I started and while certainly not the best guitar it is a good guitar to get started.
Abyss_Walker Jun 17, 2013 @ 4:16pm 
Thank you Schnittertm! Sounds like a good deal
Ace42 Jun 17, 2013 @ 8:22pm 
Originally posted by Schnittertm:
Both of the pickups you posted will not work, as the do not have any jack for the 1/4" plug of the Realtone cable to go into. Those pickups are meant for hooking up an acoustic to an amplifier.

Good point - the Real Tone cable has a male ending to plug directly into a guitar, whereas the pick-ups have a male end to plug directly into an amp. However, I assume there are female-to-female convertors / cables just as there are the male-to-male jacks that typically connect an electric to an amp?
philip12120 Jun 18, 2013 @ 10:28pm 
the rocksmith real tone cable. has a digital preamp built into the cord. the cord also has a feature to add a non preamp cord or a replacement cord... what i suggest is using a guitar that has a standard neck and nothing lower than that. otherwise it will be harder playing on a 3/4 neck guitar. also i suggest getting an jack adapter to fit an acustic electric guitar. otherwise if there is a digital preamp built into the guitar. it might not work proper fully. this will effect the pick up and the digital preamp. for example my fender dreadnaught acotics electric 300. one more thing. if where your place is on location, temp and how much you play the guitar. the guitar will get out of tune while playing the game. the game will say you are off key, eventhough you are not. last is i suggest buying a fet board clamp. it will make the game play better.....
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