Multiple Player Squads Are Bad for The Game

[Cold|Heat]

Why is it possible that people can create 5 players squads?

The game already struggles heavily with a low playerbase, the matchmaker often creates imbalanced matches and deserters only multiply these issues.

You´re able to completely dominate a match already with 2 veteran players, since most matches don´t see enough of those, even on BR5.

I just experienced using a +300% booster and meeting a full U45N squad. The match was a slaughterhouse from the second minute and lost for the allies side before it even started. Simply due to deeply unfair matchmaking.

The game shouldn´t allow for any multiple-player-squads, except for custom servers, as they can completely dominate the outcome of a match and the experience on the receiving end is a frustrating one. I doubt that such an experience will help the playerbase to grow.

[Computron]

You're only going to get laughed at and clowned by the regional whales of Enlisted that are here to farm ai-timmies.

The game should be returned to Lone Survivor style of play with full 60 player lobbies. However, that would cost this company too much money for servers, so they'll keep it dumbed down for a low tier audience.

[Belos]

Clown

[jeab]

Wait untill veterans come in to tell you how this way its more casual for you when you get stomped with 0% of winning. Veterans of the game have been fighting againts matchmaking for 4 years now. Veterans would stop playing if they could not stomp bots and new players

[Cold|Heat]

Publicado originalmente por The Master:

Clown

As usual the intellectual ability of some blessed individuals to participate in a mature discussion through convincing arguments is stunning..

Jokes aside: I´m a veteran player and whale myself and as such have an interest of seeing it prosper. That´s not gonna be achieved by stomping public matches through sheer numbers and unfair mechanics as it will make people either embrace the insta-quitting behavior whenever a round doesnt go their way... which makes matches more boring and one sided. Or they quit the game in general for being frustrated with too obviously rigged matches.

Everyone should be able to differ if a mechanic benefits themselves but is bad for a game or not. Unfortunately this game is accompanied by bad decision making from the devs for most of the time of its development and likely the reason why its still in beta.

[Belos]

Publicado originalmente por Cold|Heat:

Publicado originalmente por The Master:

Clown

As usual the intellectual ability of some blessed individuals to participate in a mature discussion through convincing arguments is stunning..

Jokes aside: I´m a veteran player and whale myself and as such have an interest of seeing it prosper. That´s not gonna be achieved by stomping public matches through sheer numbers and unfair mechanics as it will make people either embrace the insta-quitting behavior whenever a round doesnt go their way... which makes matches more boring and one sided. Or they quit the game in general for being frustrated with too obviously rigged matches.

Everyone should be able to differ if a mechanic benefits themselves but is bad for a game or not. Unfortunately this game is accompanied by bad decision making from the devs for most of the time of its development and likely the reason why its still in beta.

One word seems to work wonders. You are just a clown. The game would be better off without you. Now... If you are done crying kid.

Its hard to take anything here seriously.

[jeab]

Publicado originalmente por Cold|Heat:

Publicado originalmente por The Master:

Clown

As usual the intellectual ability of some blessed individuals to participate in a mature discussion through convincing arguments is stunning..

Jokes aside: I´m a veteran player and whale myself and as such have an interest of seeing it prosper. That´s not gonna be achieved by stomping public matches through sheer numbers and unfair mechanics as it will make people either embrace the insta-quitting behavior whenever a round doesnt go their way... which makes matches more boring and one sided. Or they quit the game in general for being frustrated with too obviously rigged matches.

Everyone should be able to differ if a mechanic benefits themselves but is bad for a game or not. Unfortunately this game is accompanied by bad decision making from the devs for most of the time of its development and likely the reason why its still in beta.

When you mix a community that loves stomping new players out of the game with a developer that only has money in mind you get enlisted. Why do you think it took em 4 years to do anything about grayzone camping? because seasoned veterans were screaming at developers face how tanks are meant to camp as far away as possible and shoot he at spawn. Same with matchmaking majority of veterans are so much in love stomping noobs and new players that they would probably quit the game if they could not drive new players out of the game while complaining about factions or lack of players

[Cold|Heat]

Publicado originalmente por jebu:

When you mix a community that loves stomping new players out of the game with a developer that only has money in mind you get enlisted. Why do you think it took em 4 years to do anything about grayzone camping? because seasoned veterans were screaming at developers face how tanks are meant to camp as far away as possible and shoot he at spawn. Same with matchmaking majority of veterans are so much in love stomping noobs and new players that they would probably quit the game if they could not drive new players out of the game while complaining about factions or lack of players

I guess we all can agree that Gaijin is a greedy company but Enlisted is in no position to allow for such behavior. I havent really participated in the official forums a lot anymore to follow what the other veterans/whales are asking for since the games community unfortunately has an unbearable amount of immature, toxic ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ but what you describe fits right into the picture. Our miserable friend here is just the tip of the iceberg and that´s where the problem lies.

Even on reddit its usually mostly unproductive whining and memes for the luls. Last major whinefest was when the merge was announced and almost 50% behaved like this would actually mean the end of the game in a colossal misjudgement of the dire situation Enlisted was in. The game has also a vocal group who defends deserting to the bone. A mechanic that would be unheard of in any other game using a BR system. I had the impression though that most veterans seems to universally hate greyzone camping.

In the end it just means to ride the current, accept to sometimes quit hopelessly one-sided matches as an intended feature and take whatever enjoyment is available in this game, even though you know it could be much better. At least from the day on when the playerbase isn´t largely populated anymore by neglected 12 year olds and toxic Incels who require clubbing the opposition in hopelessly one-sided matches in order to boost their fragile ego.

[yrmp]

Publicado originalmente por Computron:

You're only going to get laughed at and clowned by the regional whales of Enlisted that are here to farm ai-timmies.

The game should be returned to Lone Survivor style of play with full 60 player lobbies. However, that would cost this company too much money for servers, so they'll keep it dumbed down for a low tier audience.

Are you still whining about this? Not enough clown awards on the other threads? Quit playing the game if you don't like it.

[Computron]

Publicado originalmente por yrmp:

Publicado originalmente por Computron:

You're only going to get laughed at and clowned by the regional whales of Enlisted that are here to farm ai-timmies.

The game should be returned to Lone Survivor style of play with full 60 player lobbies. However, that would cost this company too much money for servers, so they'll keep it dumbed down for a low tier audience.

Are you still whining about this? Not enough clown awards on the other threads? Quit playing the game if you don't like it.

Are you choosing to be ignorant to the rest of the discussions and all of the legitimate reviews?

This game suffers and mostly everyone knows it. Somehow you can't understand how.

If you continue to target my posts specifically across the Enlisted Discussions, you'll find yourself with a temp discussion ban.

[Cosmo 🐲]

Publicado originalmente por Cold|Heat:

Why is it possible that people can create 5 players squads?

The game already struggles heavily with a low playerbase, the matchmaker often creates imbalanced matches and deserters only multiply these issues.

You´re able to completely dominate a match already with 2 veteran players, since most matches don´t see enough of those, even on BR5.

I just experienced using a +300% booster and meeting a full U45N squad. The match was a slaughterhouse from the second minute and lost for the allies side before it even started. Simply due to deeply unfair matchmaking.

The game shouldn´t allow for any multiple-player-squads, except for custom servers, as they can completely dominate the outcome of a match and the experience on the receiving end is a frustrating one. I doubt that such an experience will help the playerbase to grow.

I agree, we need a separate queue for premades. Also, adding a hidden random delay to matchmaking would help prevent multiple pre-made squads from syncing up and joining the same game together.

[☠Ⓐ︎Ⓝ︎Ⓥ︎Ⓘ︎Ⓛ︎☠ ᚨᚾᚡᛁᛚ ®™]

Publicado originalmente por Computron:

Publicado originalmente por yrmp:

Are you still whining about this? Not enough clown awards on the other threads? Quit playing the game if you don't like it.

Are you choosing to be ignorant to the rest of the discussions and all of the legitimate reviews?

This game suffers and mostly everyone knows it. Somehow you can't understand how.

If you continue to target my posts specifically across the Enlisted Discussions, you'll find yourself with a temp discussion ban.

[☠Ⓐ︎Ⓝ︎Ⓥ︎Ⓘ︎Ⓛ︎☠ ᚨᚾᚡᛁᛚ ®™]

Publicado originalmente por Cosmo 🐲:

Publicado originalmente por Cold|Heat:

Why is it possible that people can create 5 players squads?

The game already struggles heavily with a low playerbase, the matchmaker often creates imbalanced matches and deserters only multiply these issues.

You´re able to completely dominate a match already with 2 veteran players, since most matches don´t see enough of those, even on BR5.

I just experienced using a +300% booster and meeting a full U45N squad. The match was a slaughterhouse from the second minute and lost for the allies side before it even started. Simply due to deeply unfair matchmaking.

The game shouldn´t allow for any multiple-player-squads, except for custom servers, as they can completely dominate the outcome of a match and the experience on the receiving end is a frustrating one. I doubt that such an experience will help the playerbase to grow.

I agree, we need a separate queue for premades. Also, adding a hidden random delay to matchmaking would help prevent multiple pre-made squads from syncing up and joining the same game together.

[bathroom light manager]

i think its fun the way it is.

[Cosmo 🐲]

Publicado originalmente por re-postimies pate:

i think its fun the way it is.

Yeah its fun for the ones doing the stomping, not so much for those in the other end tho.

[bathroom light manager]

seems like its a skill issue then?