Cheats? (O_o)

[happycam]

How can a dude on a tank shoot through hills, through 2 walls? How can he see through the walls where you're running? Is it a cheat or is it an ultra super skill? I think there's a cheat program involved.

[Voitt]

I have over 9000 hours in enlisted been playing since beta and never in my life seen a cheater in enlisted.

[frostbittengoat]

Originally posted by voitt:

I have over 9000 hours in enlisted been playing since beta and never in my life seen a cheater in enlisted.

go be silly somwhere else.

Originally posted by happycam:

How can a dude on a tank shoot through hills, through 2 walls? How can he see through the walls where you're running? Is it a cheat or is it an ultra super skill? I think there's a cheat program involved.

...how seeing thru walls can be ultra super skill ?
Chinese hackers can literally spawn a bot behind you.
And devs are doing nothing to stop this.

[Cpt. Blyatman]

Originally posted by happycam:

How can a dude on a tank shoot through hills, through 2 walls? How can he see through the walls where you're running? Is it a cheat or is it an ultra super skill? I think there's a cheat program involved.

Tanks have HE rounds that blow up near you which can kill you.
Or,
Tanks can fire armor piercing rounds through wooden walls.
Any round larger than 7.62 can penetrate atleast one layer of log walls. Not sure about the 20mm round.
Or,
the Tanker fires at some area where HE shells can explode in your vicinity and the shrapnel kills you.

if its a DSHKA, or a MG131 that killed you, these are heavy machineguns 12.7x108 - 13mm round, which can easily penetrate log walls, and light tanks, and kill you behind a wall.

Theres no such cheat other than wallhack which some losers do use,
Chance is player spotted you at a distance and guesstimated where you were and fired HE shells, and even knew where you were if you spawned from a certain spawn point or rally point. Which is likely what happened. He waited for you and farmed your squad.

[frostbittengoat]

Originally posted by a peasant:

Originally posted by happycam:

How can a dude on a tank shoot through hills, through 2 walls? How can he see through the walls where you're running? Is it a cheat or is it an ultra super skill? I think there's a cheat program involved.

Tanks have HE rounds that blow up near you which can kill you.
Or,
Tanks can fire armor piercing rounds through wooden walls.
Any round larger than 7.62 can penetrate atleast one layer of log walls. Not sure about the 20mm round.
Or,
the Tanker fires at some area where HE shells can explode in your vicinity.


Theres no such cheat other than wallhack which some losers do use,
Change is player spotted you at a distance and guesstimated where you were and fired HE shells.

wrong

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qoGsCNThzKY

Sorry to destroy your world without cheaters

[Cpt. Blyatman]

Originally posted by frostbittengoat:

wrong

ok yes, thats wallhack.
But i didnt say theres no wallhackers.

I specifically wrote "Theres no such cheat other than wallhack which some losers do use,", apparently no recoil as well.

Apparently MG42 bullets can go through stone walls. thats news to me.

[frostbittengoat]

Originally posted by a peasant:

Originally posted by frostbittengoat:

wrong

ok yes, thats wallhack.
But i didnt say theres no wallhackers.

I specifically wrote "Theres no such cheat other than wallhack which some losers do use,", apparently no recoil as well.

Apparently MG42 bullets can go through stone walls. thats news to me.

No recoil cheat does not exist.

Apparently there are many hacks in this game

[Voitt]

Originally posted by frostbittengoat:

Originally posted by a peasant:

Tanks have HE rounds that blow up near you which can kill you.
Or,
Tanks can fire armor piercing rounds through wooden walls.
Any round larger than 7.62 can penetrate atleast one layer of log walls. Not sure about the 20mm round.
Or,
the Tanker fires at some area where HE shells can explode in your vicinity.


Theres no such cheat other than wallhack which some losers do use,
Change is player spotted you at a distance and guesstimated where you were and fired HE shells.

wrong

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qoGsCNThzKY

Sorry to destroy your world without cheaters

Lol perfect example of using enlisted replay system. Vets scream at you to use replay to see cheaters and then vets come to the video to tell how actually in replay destructible walls are bugged and now they guy gets bashed by the same people who told him to look for replay

[frostbittengoat]

Originally posted by voitt:

Originally posted by frostbittengoat:

wrong

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qoGsCNThzKY

Sorry to destroy your world without cheaters

Lol perfect example of using enlisted replay system. Vets scream at you to use replay to see cheaters and then vets come to the video to tell how actually in replay destructible walls are bugged and now they guy gets bashed by the same people who told him to look for replay

Then what is the point of record ??
Anyway bugged recording or not doesn't clear the game from hackers

[Voitt]

Originally posted by frostbittengoat:

Originally posted by voitt:

Lol perfect example of using enlisted replay system. Vets scream at you to use replay to see cheaters and then vets come to the video to tell how actually in replay destructible walls are bugged and now they guy gets bashed by the same people who told him to look for replay

Then what is the point of record ??
Anyway bugged recording or not doesn't clear the game from hackers

The record system is there to help you see obvious cheaters. Most cheaters probably just use wallhacks and other assists so spotting them on the replay system is almost impossible as what the point for the system is? Im sure the system is there so seasoned veterans can tell everyone how theres no cheaters in the game because replay showed no 360 aimsnapping etc. The game uses same anticheat as gta v so expect a lot of cheaters.

[Vororo]

me and a friend have run into this a couple of times. suddenly dying through several walls. Its not consistent enough to call it a hack, it feels like its a bug somehow.

[[CM] Ungorisz]

Originally posted by frostbittengoat:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qoGsCNThzKY

Sorry to destroy your world without cheaters

Replays are not always 100% accurate. The devs fixed most cases where destructible objects were not destroyed in relpays, the state of doors (open or closed) or when wrecks were at incorrect positions after rewind/fast forward, but untrained eyes can miss or misinterpret situations where the replays are inaccurate.
That's why replays are manually checked after reports, because f.e. in this case, you can clearly see that the destructible wall was not there (00:24, soldier walking trough it) during the normal game, so it's not wall hack. Recoil and ADS zoom can also be a bit deceptive in replays, also players using aimbots are usually headshotting everyone, not aiming at center mass and wasting 30-50 rounds to get 3 kills, plus we are talking about a console player here, not a PC player.

[NicoBBZ77]

Originally posted by voitt:

I have over 9000 hours in enlisted been playing since beta and never in my life seen a cheater in enlisted.

liar ! there is indeed the presence of a cheater in the game..

[<#f46>HYPER I <#fff>LatrineDVeen]

Originally posted by CM Ungorisz:

Originally posted by frostbittengoat:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qoGsCNThzKY

Sorry to destroy your world without cheaters

Replays are not always 100% accurate. The devs fixed most cases where destructible objects were not destroyed in relpays, the state of doors (open or closed) or when wrecks were at incorrect positions after rewind/fast forward, but untrained eyes can miss or misinterpret situations where the replays are inaccurate.
That's why replays are manually checked after reports, because f.e. in this case, you can clearly see that the destructible wall was not there (00:24, soldier walking trough it) during the normal game, so it's not wall hack. Recoil and ADS zoom can also be a bit deceptive in replays, also players using aimbots are usually headshotting everyone, not aiming at center mass and wasting 30-50 rounds to get 3 kills, plus we are talking about a console player here, not a PC player.

balance matchmaking

[Cpt. Blyatman]

Originally posted by CM Ungorisz:

. The devs fixed most cases where destructible objects were not destroyed in relpays, the state of doors (open or closed) or when wrecks were at incorrect positions after rewind/fast forward, but untrained eyes can miss or misinterpret situations where the replays are inaccurate.

it should'nt be possible for MG42 bullets to go through stone walls, so your explanation is viable. probably the Entity didnt despawn!?

I havent been able to hit anything by shooting small arms calibre through stone walls.

[[CM] Ungorisz]

Originally posted by a peasant:

it should'nt be possible for MG42 bullets to go through stone walls, so your explanation is viable. probably the Entity didnt despawn!?

The linked YT video is 7 months old, we usually poke the devs about fixing these issues with replays when they surface and they are constantly fixing them. My examples were old fixes that originally didn't work properly in replays, just to show that replays are not always totally correct.
F.e. the destructible things not actually getting destroyed in replays was a major issue with replays for a long time, but if i remember right it's already fixed (tho i can't remember the exact patch/date for it). So yeah, in that case the wall was simply not there during the normal game as players could walk (00:24) and see/shoot (00:28) through it, but in the replay it wasn't destroyed properly so it looks like wallhack (but it's not, because you simply can't shoot through these walls).
These things are usually easily debunkable in custom games or in the mod editor, but that's why there's usually a manual check after player reports, because while it could be perceived as cheating, it's not always that.
I'm not saying that there are no cheaters, because there are some, we've seen multiple reports / videos about them and we are constantly banning them, but players tend to overreact a lot of situations. That's why we usually ask for replays plus proof when someone directly reports someone to one of us and not just video, because if it's not blatant cheating, checking the original replay along other proof makes it easier to decide if it's indeed foul play or not.