Aim bot infestation

[Adonis]

Is it me or has anyone else noticed this game is 80% players using aimbots?

[szilellis]

You can use replays to see any battle through you or any other player and many cameras available. This is quite crystal clear evidence. You can easily distinct a champion killer from a cheater killer.
There are times i die a somewhat strange way like behind cover. Then i remember thing i have done myself like shoot a pilot on the plane with a rifle or shoot a sniper on the move again with a simple bolt action or other stuff and say ok, it is skill and sometimes luck but it happens. I have many kills where the opponent would definitely think 'he is a cheater'.

[szilellis]

Publicado originalmente por Count__Smarald:

I am someone with over 5000 games played ... vast majority on the NA server (so if you are on another server, your player composition may be different). In 3+ years I've suspected maybe 20-30 players. Once the replay system was introduced I started reviewing ... many I found were just lucky shots, or I was sticking out more than I thought etc (remember just because you can't see around a corner, doesn't mean your shoulder isnt sticking out for them to shoot). I've reported 3 people since the replay system's introduction as after review I felt they were pretty blatant. All of which have stopped showing up in new games on the replay system after a couple days. DF does not tell you if they get banned, so this means they either stopped playing or they got banned.

Couple things that I've seen and found by using the replay system:
- As stated before (and this goes with all shooters) your camera is center ... your shoulder does stick out. there fore peeking a corner close to the corner can get you killed. Moving away from the wall to corner can reduce this issue.
- The killcam can be a bit buggy when the AI soldier in a squad kills you. I have seen a few times when the killcam shows the player running the squad ... but the replay showed their bot killed me ... who actually did have line of sight on me.
- AI squadmate bots seem to ignore foliage ... this means they will shoot you through bushes.
- AI squadmate bots can 180 stab you as you come around a corner.

Couple other things of note
- Recoil tends to be easier to control with tap ADS then holding ADS down where it gives you some zoom.
- Dispersion is absolutely a thing
- There are perks that increase running/sprint speed as well as your health
- Spotting will make your AI squadmates scan that area after a few seconds (you can test this in practice spot and watch the squadmates look in that direction after a few seconds) ... Note to DF: Please make this delay shorter.
- Adjusting the games volume (default volume is extremely loud) can allow you to hear footsteps and voices easier (yes when you scream or your bot says something ... opp can hear that within a certain time).
- There is no SBMM/RBMM* in this game ... as such, if you are used to games like COD ... you may be just matching with players far above your skill level (COD's SBMM protects lower skill players, this game does not).
*Rank as in Private - Marshall ... There is Battle Rank of gear equipped.

Sign every word this guy wrote.

[Zalzany]

Publicado originalmente por szilellis:

You can use replays to see any battle through you or any other player and many cameras available. This is quite crystal clear evidence. You can easily distinct a champion killer from a cheater killer.
There are times i die a somewhat strange way like behind cover. Then i remember thing i have done myself like shoot a pilot on the plane with a rifle or shoot a sniper on the move again with a simple bolt action or other stuff and say ok, it is skill and sometimes luck but it happens. I have many kills where the opponent would definitely think 'he is a cheater'.

Ha ha those are not that good I use to use the replay system to make guides with warthunder trust me they don't show that much if you are good, they make you look like you using scripts lol Like again my pal is good he grew up with shooters has coke bottle glasses I think that over compansate for his legal blindness to the point he can see you, right click and its muscle pretty much he can fire that shot off stupid fast with good accuracy pretty much every time.

Like I watched him in person, and seen his replays and I get why some people are like "he is too good he has aim bot!" its like now its just skill and reflexes. Then you see me with a damn rifle where I hesitate every long shot but I fire from hip at close ranges, and you can understand why some newb always gets pissy when I hip fire close rang kill them lol Its like I don't got aim at that close of range with that gun I know roughly the spread and feel like I am good.

But again there is always that one guy who is like "I know some oen is cheating I can't prove it but I can stroke my own belif in it by looking at replays and going "see that how did he do that skill? yeah right he must be cheating I cant' do that!" Like ♥♥♥♥ the two dudes I am playing arma 3 antistasi with are 2 people I bet you report for cheating any time you play against them in pvp shooters lol. I am sitting struggling to do great do ok, as the comander of group, those two are wiping out whole outposts like its nothing and only ♥♥♥♥♥♥ when armor shows up.

Like people like you are why I can't get my pals to play f2p shooters its like look found one I like and do good at! them "its too damn toxic an players are so damn awful its not really a challenge and tired of hearing the baddies cry in chat"

[Cosmo 🐲]

Publicado originalmente por Zalzany:

Publicado originalmente por szilellis:

You can use replays to see any battle through you or any other player and many cameras available. This is quite crystal clear evidence. You can easily distinct a champion killer from a cheater killer.
There are times i die a somewhat strange way like behind cover. Then i remember thing i have done myself like shoot a pilot on the plane with a rifle or shoot a sniper on the move again with a simple bolt action or other stuff and say ok, it is skill and sometimes luck but it happens. I have many kills where the opponent would definitely think 'he is a cheater'.

Ha ha those are not that good I use to use the replay system to make guides with warthunder trust me they don't show that much if you are good, they make you look like you using scripts lol Like again my pal is good he grew up with shooters has coke bottle glasses I think that over compansate for his legal blindness to the point he can see you, right click and its muscle pretty much he can fire that shot off stupid fast with good accuracy pretty much every time.

Like I watched him in person, and seen his replays and I get why some people are like "he is too good he has aim bot!" its like now its just skill and reflexes. Then you see me with a damn rifle where I hesitate every long shot but I fire from hip at close ranges, and you can understand why some newb always gets pissy when I hip fire close rang kill them lol Its like I don't got aim at that close of range with that gun I know roughly the spread and feel like I am good.

But again there is always that one guy who is like "I know some oen is cheating I can't prove it but I can stroke my own belif in it by looking at replays and going "see that how did he do that skill? yeah right he must be cheating I cant' do that!" Like ♥♥♥♥ the two dudes I am playing arma 3 antistasi with are 2 people I bet you report for cheating any time you play against them in pvp shooters lol. I am sitting struggling to do great do ok, as the comander of group, those two are wiping out whole outposts like its nothing and only ♥♥♥♥♥♥ when armor shows up.

Like people like you are why I can't get my pals to play f2p shooters its like look found one I like and do good at! them "its too damn toxic an players are so damn awful its not really a challenge and tired of hearing the baddies cry in chat"

Still, 90% of the "he was cheating" clams can be debunked using them.
And if people still think it was a cheater after watching it, it can be send to Gaijin for further invistigation.

[kongol36]

Publicado originalmente por Cosmo:

Publicado originalmente por kongol36:

If you post a replay of it they remove it... so far dozen times and they had the youtube recording of there own replays taken down

You can link directly to the server replay, it won’t be taken down - I’ve done it plenty of times.

The benefit is that we can all watch the game from the so-called cheater’s perspective, making it easier to spot if they’re actually cheating.

i have they removed them as they did the you tube ones.. you guys are the same ones defending warthunder and claimed for years it had no or few hacks.... You can go buy a wall hack and see all enemys online for 4 us dollars right now for enlisted... probably the same people that said starfield should have been game of the year... you guys most have all left Concord game at the same time

[jeab]

Publicado originalmente por kongol36:

Publicado originalmente por Cosmo:

You can link directly to the server replay, it won’t be taken down - I’ve done it plenty of times.

The benefit is that we can all watch the game from the so-called cheater’s perspective, making it easier to spot if they’re actually cheating.

i have they removed them as they did the you tube ones.. you guys are the same ones defending warthunder and claimed for years it had no or few hacks.... You can go buy a wall hack and see all enemys online for 4 us dollars right now for enlisted... probably the same people that said starfield should have been game of the year... you guys most have all left Concord game at the same time

Enlisted community is just bonkers. You even mention cheaters and every single player who has 4k hours in the game appears and tells you in 4000 hours they have never seen a cheater or some other bs meanwhile most people run into cheaters all the time. Keep in mind there are a lot of volunteers who volunteered to monitor these forums and glaze the game. Im sure gaijin pays some people too to defend their game here

[Cosmo 🐲]

Publicado originalmente por kongol36:

Publicado originalmente por Cosmo:

You can link directly to the server replay, it won’t be taken down - I’ve done it plenty of times.

The benefit is that we can all watch the game from the so-called cheater’s perspective, making it easier to spot if they’re actually cheating.

i have they removed them as they did the you tube ones.. you guys are the same ones defending warthunder and claimed for years it had no or few hacks.... You can go buy a wall hack and see all enemys online for 4 us dollars right now for enlisted... probably the same people that said starfield should have been game of the year... you guys most have all left Concord game at the same time

No need to get personal.. wtf?

- I’m not interested in continuing this discussion, if that’s how you choose to communicate when you disagree

[jeab]

Oh you mentioned cheats in enlisted? I have over 100k hours in the game and have never seen a cheater in enlisted in my whole life i have been playing for 8 years now i played on pre beta too and no cheaters in the game at all -Least obvious gaijin stan

[Arisato]

Publicado originalmente por Jebu:

Publicado originalmente por kongol36:

i have they removed them as they did the you tube ones.. you guys are the same ones defending warthunder and claimed for years it had no or few hacks.... You can go buy a wall hack and see all enemys online for 4 us dollars right now for enlisted... probably the same people that said starfield should have been game of the year... you guys most have all left Concord game at the same time

Enlisted community is just bonkers. You even mention cheaters and every single player who has 4k hours in the game appears and tells you in 4000 hours they have never seen a cheater or some other bs meanwhile most people run into cheaters all the time. Keep in mind there are a lot of volunteers who volunteered to monitor these forums and glaze the game. Im sure gaijin pays some people too to defend their game here

I won't deny cheaters but making a claim like 80% players using aimbot or anyone with 50 kills per game is cheaters is like seriously? Just because you are bad at the game doesn't mean people are bad at game like you.
Btw steam is where I first play Enlisted and have only 90h with 60h real play time.

[jeab]

Publicado originalmente por Arisato:

Publicado originalmente por Jebu:

Enlisted community is just bonkers. You even mention cheaters and every single player who has 4k hours in the game appears and tells you in 4000 hours they have never seen a cheater or some other bs meanwhile most people run into cheaters all the time. Keep in mind there are a lot of volunteers who volunteered to monitor these forums and glaze the game. Im sure gaijin pays some people too to defend their game here

I won't deny cheaters but making a claim like 80% players using aimbot or anyone with 50 kills per game is cheaters is like seriously? Just because you are bad at the game doesn't mean people are bad at game like you.
Btw steam is where I first play Enlisted and have only 90h with 60h real play time.

Well cheats are super common in enlisted. Since they use the free version of eac instead of developing their own anticheat hacks will always exists. Hell you can look it up and find cheats for like 5 bucks a month for enlisted. Sadly gaijin only makes 50mil a year so not like they could afford to develop proper anticheat

[Arisato]

Again I won't deny cheaters. If someone really use cheat he deserve to be banned and insult by the community. But claiming other using cheat because they are better than you while you play like a braindead is another story. And I see more braindead players than those around 200 kills.

[Pyromaniac]

Mal wieder ein cheaterverseuchtes Spiel und wieder gibt es Abschaum im Forum der erzählt, dass es kein Cheaterproblem gibt

=D

[Liberatus Cosmo-Mundus]

skill issue
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AI soldiers have aim bot if they are scoped

[Liberatus Cosmo-Mundus]

Publicado originalmente por Adonis:

Publicado originalmente por Arisato:

In that case check how many kills they got and compare with their teammates.. If they killed you with a smg at sniper range their kills must be around 200.

Yes I am noticing that I'll get like 40 kills putting me somewhere in the middle meanwhile the top players are getting 100+ kills.

Its just a game no sweat just wished programmers could make more secure uncrackable code.

I don't give up easily so II'll probably keep torturing myself.

Once again appreciate the input without being condescending.

Skill issue,
the killer of the battlefield is artillery,
airplanes are flying artillery
tanks are self-propelled artillery
If you dont artillery is your problem

[Flatearth_aintnoplanetx]

Publicado originalmente por Adonis:

Publicado originalmente por Arisato:

In that case check how many kills they got and compare with their teammates.. If they killed you with a smg at sniper range their kills must be around 200.

Yes I am noticing that I'll get like 40 kills putting me somewhere in the middle meanwhile the top players are getting 100+ kills.

Its just a game no sweat just wished programmers could make more secure uncrackable code.

I don't give up easily so II'll probably keep torturing myself.

Once again appreciate the input without being condescending.

40 kills is not good when 90 percent of the enemies are bots. I think you're just having a tough time coming to grips with the fact that you aren't very good at the game.