Be Warned...The grind is UNREAL in this game

[Finny Finsta]

expect to have nothing but bolt actions the first dozen or so hours. and after you unlock the first tier of guns, it only gets worse and worse as the xp amount per weapon unlock gets larger. you can only work on ONE gun at a time too. and they all must be unlocked in order to progress through the tiers. which means grinding for guns you dont want, just to get to guns you want to play with. expect iconic WW2 weaponry to be locked behind dozens upon dozens of hours of grinding like the M1 Garand, MP40, M1911, BAR, PPSH, STG44, etc. this also goes for vehicles as well.

the game can be fun, but the grind is so god awful, it ruins the entire experience. but hey, for $40 you can buy an OP squad of drum mag thompsons, so thats cool! oh and of course, dont forget to buy premium, otherwise the dozens of hours i estimated can turn into a literally lifetime of grinding...this is one of those games where i wouldve much rather paid for it than experience the free to play BS.

[Corinarh]

Grind was way worse pre-merge now at least you don't need to rearch mp40 5 times in a row, WT grind is 10x worse than grind in this game. Only issue is the silver gain which is still bad even after they decreased some prices.
When you are done with the unlock tree you can bank xp and spend them for free on new unlocks (in WT you have to pay) i have 600k banked as the Soviets and Germans.
Thompson paratroopers got nerfed hard i barely use them since your landing speed is so slow and that gun is only good at a very close distance you will get murdered by stg44 and fg42 spam.
Most premiums are underpowered or comparable to stuff you can grind in a game, remember now game has a BR brackets of BR1-3 and BR3-5 so only some premiums will be useful.
I think most useful and powerful premiums are: Colt Monitor, wz 1928, Fedorov MG, AS-44, Calliope and Jagdpanther. And they can still be easily taken down and be overwhelmed by the enemy with free squads since premium infantryman squads only have 6 crewmembers vs 8-9 and tanks will get always destroyed by a bombs. Flamethrowers got nerfed hard so i no longer use my premium squads.
With premium time and a couple of premiums it took me 840h to unlock 98% of the stuff we have right now in the game. It's nothing compared to the Warframe time to unlock everything i'm playing that game for 4k and still don't have everything. You need to play more game before you scream UNREAL about just average f2p grind of this game.

[Cosmo 🐲]

Originally posted by Finny Finsta:

expect to have nothing but bolt actions the first dozen or so hours. and after you unlock the first tier of guns, it only gets worse and worse as the xp amount per weapon unlock gets larger. you can only work on ONE gun at a time too. and they all must be unlocked in order to progress through the tiers. which means grinding for guns you dont want, just to get to guns you want to play with. expect iconic WW2 weaponry to be locked behind dozens upon dozens of hours of grinding like the M1 Garand, MP40, M1911, BAR, PPSH, STG44, etc. this also goes for vehicles as well.

the game can be fun, but the grind is so god awful, it ruins the entire experience. but hey, for $40 you can buy an OP squad of drum mag thompsons, so thats cool! oh and of course, dont forget to buy premium, otherwise the dozens of hours i estimated can turn into a literally lifetime of grinding...this is one of those games where i wouldve much rather paid for it than experience the free to play BS.

As Corinarh said, they just made the grind much less than what it used to be.
Im still enjoying the game very much.

Tommy guns suck. You should try the Soviet SMGs, they are really overpowered. However, both German and Japanese SMGs beat the Tommy guns, so I'm really not sure what you are on about.??


Also, the game is free-to-play, so it's only fair to have some premium content to make some cash. Or do you expect the developers to work for free?

I have spent so many hours in this game. If I compare it to what I pay for games that I spend much less time on, or games like WoW where people gladly pay €10/month to play, then this is still cheap with a few premium squads.

[Corinarh]

Originally posted by Player 1 (Cosmo):

Originally posted by Finny Finsta:

expect to have nothing but bolt actions the first dozen or so hours. and after you unlock the first tier of guns, it only gets worse and worse as the xp amount per weapon unlock gets larger. you can only work on ONE gun at a time too. and they all must be unlocked in order to progress through the tiers. which means grinding for guns you dont want, just to get to guns you want to play with. expect iconic WW2 weaponry to be locked behind dozens upon dozens of hours of grinding like the M1 Garand, MP40, M1911, BAR, PPSH, STG44, etc. this also goes for vehicles as well.

the game can be fun, but the grind is so god awful, it ruins the entire experience. but hey, for $40 you can buy an OP squad of drum mag thompsons, so thats cool! oh and of course, dont forget to buy premium, otherwise the dozens of hours i estimated can turn into a literally lifetime of grinding...this is one of those games where i wouldve much rather paid for it than experience the free to play BS.

As Corinarh said, they just made the grind much less than what it used to be.
Im still enjoying the game very much.

Tommy guns suck. You should try the Soviet SMGs, they are really overpowered. However, both German and Japanese SMGs beat the Tommy guns, so I'm really not sure what you are on about.?? :pirate:


Also, the game is free-to-play, so it's only fair to have some premium content to make some cash. Or do you expect the developers to work for free? :cartel_thinking:

I have spent so many hours in this game. If I compare it to what I pay for games that I spend much less time on, or games like WoW where people gladly pay €10/month to play, then this is still cheap with a few premium squads. :idlechampionscoin:

He doesn't even know that the best smgs in the game are carried by Axis all they can be unlocked for free, we have Kiraly, MP717(r), Mp40, STG44 (which can be equipped by Assaulters which still counts) and one of the most op guns in a game which is Conders and i have 4 of them. So who is p2w now? I still think Fedorov MG, MG13 drum and MG42 Early (which i forget about) are op and better than free counterparts but are not invincible. Jagdpanther is situational and gets instantly destroyed by 120mm of IS-2 or bombs.
Tommyguns have awful recoil with even worse sights you cant see a thing through them.

[Kain067]

Whether it's fair or not, I think Premium is pretty much required in this game (so basically it's not a free to play game, it's a $30 per year game). That being said, with Premium (which is a very fair price for a game I think), the grind is not bad at all. I've maxed all 4 armies and still am greatly enjoying playing the game. "Grind" basically means playing more than you actually want to, in order to get stuff. By that definition I've never once had to grind in this game.

[Corinarh]

Originally posted by Kain067:

Whether it's fair or not, I think Premium is pretty much required in this game (so basically it's not a free to play game, it's a $30 per year game). That being said, with Premium (which is a very fair price for a game I think), the grind is not bad at all. I've maxed all 4 armies and still am greatly enjoying playing the game. "Grind" basically means playing more than you actually want to, in order to get stuff. By that definition I've never once had to grind in this game.

it's $20 ($22 for Eu players) on sale for a year which is nothing, WT premium even during sale costs $40 and i have way less fun with WT than with Enlisted so i have never even thought about buying year of premium in WT, while in Enlisted i'm at 2nd year of premium.

[Slyke]

Grind is fine. It's the least of this game's problems.

[Cosmo 🐲]

Originally posted by Corinarh:

Originally posted by Player 1 (Cosmo):

As Corinarh said, they just made the grind much less than what it used to be.
Im still enjoying the game very much.

Tommy guns suck. You should try the Soviet SMGs, they are really overpowered. However, both German and Japanese SMGs beat the Tommy guns, so I'm really not sure what you are on about.??


Also, the game is free-to-play, so it's only fair to have some premium content to make some cash. Or do you expect the developers to work for free?

I have spent so many hours in this game. If I compare it to what I pay for games that I spend much less time on, or games like WoW where people gladly pay €10/month to play, then this is still cheap with a few premium squads.

He doesn't even know that the best smgs in the game are carried by Axis all they can be unlocked for free, we have Kiraly, MP717(r), Mp40, STG44 (which can be equipped by Assaulters which still counts) and one of the most op guns in a game which is Conders and i have 4 of them. So who is p2w now? I still think Fedorov MG, MG13 drum and MG42 Early (which i forget about) are op and better than free counterparts but are not invincible. Jagdpanther is situational and gets instantly destroyed by 120mm of IS-2 or bombs.
Tommyguns have awful recoil with even worse sights you cant see a thing through them.

The MP717(r) is a legacy gun (its a captured Soviet PPSh-41).
Sadly you cant get it anymore. I have exactly 1 (i wish i could get more). I Equipped that and the 4x Cönders on my Ju 188 A2 crew... when they leave the aircraft they are surely a force to be reconed with, they are an Assault squad on their own
https://i.imgur.com/wIlwKl5.png

I dont think we will agree on who got the best SMGs, but its surely not the tommy guns as OP are on a rant about.

[Snake]

You can get a YEAR of premium account / double XP / double silver currency, for just a bit less than the price of a full "premium" game. If you play actively you will have enough silver to progress without any real issue or painful grind.

I usually buy 20 days of premium for just 6 EUR, I think that's a great deal and doesn't make you feel obliged to play for hours every day to "use" your premium and not waste it.

[Fighter of the Nightman]

Originally posted by Player 1 (Cosmo):

Originally posted by Finny Finsta:

expect to have nothing but bolt actions the first dozen or so hours. and after you unlock the first tier of guns, it only gets worse and worse as the xp amount per weapon unlock gets larger. you can only work on ONE gun at a time too. and they all must be unlocked in order to progress through the tiers. which means grinding for guns you dont want, just to get to guns you want to play with. expect iconic WW2 weaponry to be locked behind dozens upon dozens of hours of grinding like the M1 Garand, MP40, M1911, BAR, PPSH, STG44, etc. this also goes for vehicles as well.

the game can be fun, but the grind is so god awful, it ruins the entire experience. but hey, for $40 you can buy an OP squad of drum mag thompsons, so thats cool! oh and of course, dont forget to buy premium, otherwise the dozens of hours i estimated can turn into a literally lifetime of grinding...this is one of those games where i wouldve much rather paid for it than experience the free to play BS.

As Corinarh said, they just made the grind much less than what it used to be.
Im still enjoying the game very much.

Tommy guns suck. You should try the Soviet SMGs, they are really overpowered. However, both German and Japanese SMGs beat the Tommy guns, so I'm really not sure what you are on about.?? :pirate:


Also, the game is free-to-play, so it's only fair to have some premium content to make some cash. Or do you expect the developers to work for free? :cartel_thinking:

I have spent so many hours in this game. If I compare it to what I pay for games that I spend much less time on, or games like WoW where people gladly pay €10/month to play, then this is still cheap with a few premium squads. :idlechampionscoin:

It being free osmt an excuse. Path of Exile has shown the world how F2P should be done. Theure already making bank off whatever data they gather with their launcher

[Cosmo 🐲]

Originally posted by Fighter of the Nightman:

Originally posted by Player 1 (Cosmo):

As Corinarh said, they just made the grind much less than what it used to be.
Im still enjoying the game very much.

Tommy guns suck. You should try the Soviet SMGs, they are really overpowered. However, both German and Japanese SMGs beat the Tommy guns, so I'm really not sure what you are on about.??


Also, the game is free-to-play, so it's only fair to have some premium content to make some cash. Or do you expect the developers to work for free?

I have spent so many hours in this game. If I compare it to what I pay for games that I spend much less time on, or games like WoW where people gladly pay €10/month to play, then this is still cheap with a few premium squads.

It being free osmt an excuse. Path of Exile has shown the world how F2P should be done. Theure already making bank off whatever data they gather with their launcher

I dont know how PoE makes money, i never really liked the game.

Just subscibe as if you played WoW or some other mmo, without having to endure the relentless grind. The grind is the price free players have to pay, and it is only fair.

Developers need to generate revenue somehow. alternativly they f2p solution would go away and the game would only be for paying players, and we would prob loose some playerbase. Would you like that instead??

[Carl The Costco Greeter]

Originally posted by Fighter of the Nightman:

Originally posted by Player 1 (Cosmo):

As Corinarh said, they just made the grind much less than what it used to be.
Im still enjoying the game very much.

Tommy guns suck. You should try the Soviet SMGs, they are really overpowered. However, both German and Japanese SMGs beat the Tommy guns, so I'm really not sure what you are on about.?? :pirate:


Also, the game is free-to-play, so it's only fair to have some premium content to make some cash. Or do you expect the developers to work for free? :cartel_thinking:

I have spent so many hours in this game. If I compare it to what I pay for games that I spend much less time on, or games like WoW where people gladly pay €10/month to play, then this is still cheap with a few premium squads. :idlechampionscoin:

It being free osmt an excuse. Path of Exile has shown the world how F2P should be done. Theure already making bank off whatever data they gather with their launcher

That is some crazy conspiracy if you think GGG is making money from stealing data through their launcher. GGG/POE mainly make their money through MTX skins(These MTX skins are literally 60-250 dollars) through a loyal customerbase. They unlike gaijin, don't need to milk the hell out of their playerbase because they know as long as they don't do anything stupid, people will find reason to come back and spend/justify money.

[EDSmike74]

Same company as warthunder so not worth playing, I already have a job in real life, I'm not going to take a second job with this game.

[Snake]

Originally posted by EDSmike74:

Same company as warthunder so not worth playing, I already have a job in real life, I'm not going to take a second job with this game.

The grind and f2p predatory-isms are far, FAR better than War Thunder.

I wanted to get into War Thunder as well, but the tons of ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ around the monetization and surreal grind even with premium active / paid, the "pay currency to repair your vehicle after a match", it was way way too much for me.

Enlisted, on the other hand, I enjoy a lot and feel it's significantly less grindy.

[Cosmo 🐲]

Originally posted by EDSmike74:

Same company as warthunder so not worth playing, I already have a job in real life, I'm not going to take a second job with this game.

Its not the same developer, so you are wrong.

Originally posted by Snake:

Originally posted by EDSmike74:

Same company as warthunder so not worth playing, I already have a job in real life, I'm not going to take a second job with this game.

The grind and f2p predatory-isms are far, FAR better than War Thunder.

I wanted to get into War Thunder as well, but the tons of ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ around the monetization and surreal grind even with premium active / paid, the "pay currency to repair your vehicle after a match", it was way way too much for me.

Enlisted, on the other hand, I enjoy a lot and feel it's significantly less grindy.

Yeah, I was about to say this.
Even without premium, the grind in Enlisted is much less than it is in War Thunder.
It's indeed a strange comparison to make.

[Slyke]

People don't know what they are talking about, just throwing around words that don't mean anything anymore. Words meant as little more than insults intended to deter others from trying the game.

This isn't even a "grind game", it's more of a "FOMO game". I'd say that's worse, but what do I know? For me progression in WT is actually too fast outside of top tier (unpleasantly so if you have premium).