Shooting range question

[Spogg]

So i just learned that headshots do not get you more points and i have just been making the range way harder than it suppose to be

but my question is have i maxed out the first 2 shooting ranges? that little silver token that says "every 1000+" has not been ticked, do i need to score more points somehow is there something im missing

i have flawlessly hit every target + skulls on 1-b but is there a way to get more points?
and for 1-a i cant seem to get a round where i hit all targets and all skulls due to that evil last target that pops up but with persistence i can do it, just have to get lucky

or is getting S rank and all skulls enought? can i earn all case things by just doing that?
https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=2957389250



edit:
https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=2958341907

i don'ed it, whats the point in getting the skulls?? only got an achievement for the s ranks

[Phyore]

I'm pretty sure you can't get all the charms with only the "quests" in one run because they"re rng based, it's a little gatcha game where you'll need to get a bit of luck and you'll likely get multiple copies of some charms and none for some others..about the "every 1000 points" I think you can get at least 3 stars on every stage just playing flawlessly but I'm still trying to complete that so I might be wrong, seems unlikely to get more than that tho.

[Akutare]

S rank and all skulls is what you need for the achievement yeah, the +1000 one never has checkmarks, and is instead the black stars you see beside it, which go up to 5 stars from what I've seen. As for the case charms, they're on randomized seeds, so you might need more tokens than you can get in one playthrough to get every single charm if you really wanted to.

[Spogg]

Are the charms shared between saves or to get them all do you have to do ng+ ng++ ng+++ etc etc

[Akutare]

Originally posted by Autistic Horse:

Are the charms shared between saves or to get them all do you have to do ng+ ng++ ng+++ etc etc

They're considered items because you can sell them for money, so they are not shared between saves

[Lunar Shower]

Originally posted by Phyore:

I'm pretty sure you can't get all the charms with only the "quests" in one run because they"re rng based, it's a little gatcha game where you'll need to get a bit of luck and you'll likely get multiple copies of some charms and none for some others..about the "every 1000 points" I think you can get at least 3 stars on every stage just playing flawlessly but I'm still trying to complete that so I might be wrong, seems unlikely to get more than that tho.

They are not actually RNG, or not in the way Gacha's are. Rather, they are seeded, so if you input a certain combination, say, silver silver gold, you'll always get the same rewards from playthrough to playthrough using that seed.

Naturally, best way to make usage of your tokens is to save, then spend them, see what you get, reload if you don't like, and try again with a different combination, and keep track of what you get as you go.

[Peelsepuuppi]

It is very likely to take multiple runs to get all charms as it's RNG. I don't think there's a challenge in the game related to charms though. Here's how it all works:

You get one extra coin for each star you get. You get stars by going over the required high score by an indicated amount. You can get maximum of 3 stars on everything but the last one which you can get 5 stars on.

To get those maximum amount of come you have to make perfect or near perfect runs. That means Hitting every single skull, Almost every target (some allow you to miss 1 target if you are fast) relatively quickly.

I perfected every single shooting range and used RNG manipulation to attempt to get best charms, but even that wasn't enough to get everything in one run, because the game will just throw duplicates at you for every coin combination.

The RNG is seeded on each playtrhough. Each coin combination has it's own separate ordered list of items that you will get in order without exception.

It doesn't matter in which order you output the coin combinations. the same combination of coins will always result in the same rewards in order if you reload a save. The way to manipulate this is to Test every coin combination (there are 4) Write up what you get and then use the coins to get the best rewards from the list.

This RNG seed is reset on each NG and NG+ run. So if you want to get all charms on multiple runs but you get a really ♥♥♥♥♥♥ seed just save the coins for another NG+ run.

[Peelsepuuppi]

Originally posted by Autistic Horse:

So i just learned that headshots do not get you more points and i have just been making the range way harder than it suppose to be

but my question is have i maxed out the first 2 shooting ranges? that little silver token that says "every 1000+" has not been ticked, do i need to score more points somehow is there something im missing

i have flawlessly hit every target + skulls on 1-b but is there a way to get more points?
and for 1-a i cant seem to get a round where i hit all targets and all skulls due to that evil last target that pops up but with persistence i can do it, just have to get lucky

or is getting S rank and all skulls enought? can i earn all case things by just doing that?
https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=2957389250

For the last target in 1-A let your pistol focus first and then wait for it to appear. This game has slight delay after hitting the firing button as it accounts the shooting animation before the bullet flies out. So you have to lead the target a bit to hit it consistently.

[Mögbär]

The gambling for charms is annoying and unsatisfying. I don't feel enticed to practice for the target shooting at all, how about some good rewards? Don't put gambling in your game. I don't pay full game release date price to be harassed with mobile crap nonsense. Worst offense is you can get the same charm repeatedly but aren't allowed to use multiple copies for stacking effects. Thanks for nothing, I guess?

I mean, it doesn't ruin the game or anything, but it is somewhat of a downer. Also not sure I like the switch to a pirates theme instead of the, well, Resident Evil 4 theme the shooting range had in the original. It doesn't bother me, but I just wonder ... why? (I also think it takes a little too long to get to the shooting range in the castle, weird pacing, but whatever.)

As for the "every 1000+" one, I don't think it ever gets ticked off, because it's a repeated reward; you just get the tokens.

[Peelsepuuppi]

Originally posted by Mögbär:

The gambling for charms is annoying and unsatisfying. I don't feel enticed to practice for the target shooting at all, how about some good rewards? Don't put gambling in your game. I don't pay full game release date price to be harassed with mobile crap nonsense. Worst offense is you can get the same charm repeatedly but aren't allowed to use multiple copies for stacking effects. Thanks for nothing, I guess?

I mean, it doesn't ruin the game or anything, but it is somewhat of a downer. Also not sure I like the switch to a pirates theme instead of the, well, Resident Evil 4 theme the shooting range had in the original. It doesn't bother me, but I just wonder ... why? (I also think it takes a little too long to get to the shooting range in the castle, weird pacing, but whatever.)

As for the "every 1000+" one, I don't think it ever gets ticked off, because it's a repeated reward; you just get the tokens.

There's a finite amount of targets though. The game doesn't physically have enough targets and time to give you more than 3 stars (3 extra coins) per mode. The only exception is 4-C which has a similar "soft cap" at 5 stars.

I know this because the jump from 2 stars to 3 stars requires almost perfectly hitting all targets relatively quickly. Some of the games allow you to miss 1 or 2 targets at most.
Getting 2 stars is easy. but getting 3 basically requires you to memorize the course.

I do agree with you about the reward system. It's garbage.

[Spogg]

https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=2958341907

i don'ed it, whats the point in getting the skulls?? only got an achievement for the s ranks

[DexterMullen]

if you have 100% obtained, you are done.