Why does everyone prefer the stingray?

[Dank Sidious]

Granted I'm not out of the castle yet (just began chapter 9)

But so far I have never felt like, man stingray would have saved me here instead of the bolt action.

Bolt action is cheaper to upgrade, and more ammo efficient. It also gives you 31.8 damage to weak points it is also far cheaper to have at full power than stingray is even without exclusives.

[Tenshu]

Aesthetics

[TyresTyco]

I always use the bolt action. Used the stingray for like one chapter on hardcore.. saw that it doesnt one hit anymore so I sold it. The bolt action is far superior if your aim is good.

Not so much for the regen and iron maiden. Good thing you only need to deafeat one single regenerador. Bridge iron maiden can be skipped with a glitch and the regen in the bags can be avoided.

So only one fight for the wrench where the LE5 is enough.

[Dark-Buddha]

Originally posted by Nine:

simply because the stingray is good enough. anything yiou want to kill at long range can easily be killed with the stringray without needing any extra power. anyhting you can;t kill easily with the stringray is probably in close range and you just use the magnum instead.

I'm saving my magnum ammo for my NG+ Pro run S rank attempt. I guess I should invest in the stingray then, if i can, once I start NG+? Or are plaga-heads and pig-heads gonna need more than 1 stingray shot on Pro?

[First_AidS]

Originally posted by Dollmaker:

Probably cause its the most balanced of the rifles.

The first rifle does the most dmg, but its slow, while the other one has high fire rate, but its the weakest.

Stingray is decent at both fronts.

Speaking of which, anyone else think the CQBR is nearly pointless ? Even on standard mode, I rarely had more than 20 rifle rounds in inventory at any given time, usually less. Not to mention that rifles practically require aiming at weakpoints while cqbr is probably going to be inaccurate on full auto. It really should have been given its own ammo type.

[Platapoop]

I've never used the stingray, but if it can hit the OHKO threshold, then it is perfectly fine. If one shot isn't instakilling mooks, then I would say it's worse than the bolt action (besides against regeneradors). Water hall is kind of painful with the bolt action too, but you can just use your riot gun as a sniper there since the balcony enemies are so weak.

[Fresh]

Originally posted by Dark-Buddha:

Originally posted by Nine:

simply because the stingray is good enough. anything yiou want to kill at long range can easily be killed with the stringray without needing any extra power. anyhting you can;t kill easily with the stringray is probably in close range and you just use the magnum instead.

I'm saving my magnum ammo for my NG+ Pro run S rank attempt. I guess I should invest in the stingray then, if i can, once I start NG+? Or are plaga-heads and pig-heads gonna need more than 1 stingray shot on Pro?

I've just started an NG+3 Pro Run today and can affirm that the Stingray performs almost the same as it does on Hardcore i.e. heavy enemies (Brutes) will take around 3-5 headshots to put down and Plaga-heads will typically take one well-placed shot to kill. Granted, this is with a maxed out Stingray with it's exclusive upgrade active.

I'll consider using the Bolt-Action on another run but as it stands I see both guns having different use-cases; I see the M1903 as a strong burst-DPS weapon I'd reserve for bosses or strong enemies that don't move erratically/aggressively so as to throw off your shot. Stingray, on the other hand, can do that and easily dispatch multiple enemies/deal damage quickly because of it's semi-automatic operation. Both are solid options but I find the Stingray is best for me.

[JackieTheDemon]

Semi-auto, but the CQBR ends up doing more damage later.

[Vyadhi]

Bolt action is when you want to slam with the best
Semi automatic is when you want to jam like the rest

[Captain_Cole]

Originally posted by Draescan:

Because of the iron maiden's bugged hitbox on the head parasite.

Interesting. I will have to look up and test this on my next play through once I finish this one.

[DilTinman]

I didn't even use a rifle until the island, and even then I just got the bolt-action since it was the only one i could afford.

Stingray is definitely better for taking them out though because of how accurate you have to be and if you miss at all, it's better to be able to take another shot immediately than have to wait for a bit, and damage doesn't really matter for them anyway.

Also i don't think the Iron Maiden one is bugged, i've never had it pop on the first hit, and i don't think it's damage based, just based on how many times you hit it.

Though i'm not about to do thorough testing to prove that either, though, so if i'm wrong so be it. I'll leave it to people more patient than me to figure that out.

[Uzi Master]

People playing like it's the original is probably also a big reason; semi-auto sniper was much better there. Fire rate plus not de-scoping every shop was very important, and headshots were guaranteed death regardless of damage. Bolt-action only got significantly better damage with the exclusive, before then the difference was small.

[(N☆G) Jackal ★JJ★]

Originally posted by Uzi Master:

People playing like it's the original is probably also a big reason; semi-auto sniper was much better there. Fire rate plus not de-scoping every shop was very important, and headshots were guaranteed death regardless of damage. Bolt-action only got significantly better damage with the exclusive, before then the difference was small.

I disagree there.
The original bolt action was also even stronger than it is here.

It still fills the same role here as it did in the original.
- A big target killer -

The semi auto is by no means bad but it will waste a lot of ammo doing what the rifle can do. The difference was never small, if you are using it for crowd crowd or to rapidly dispatch regens yeah it's better but if you are using it to kill chainsaws, el gigante, garradors, or jj then the bolt action will save more ammo by far.

Hell, in the remake on professional salazar only took 10 bolt action rifle shots allowing me to save the rare as hell and expensive to craft magnum rounds for saddler and verdugo.

[ggAkatsukiP]

Originally posted by TyresTyco:

I always use the bolt action. Used the stingray for like one chapter on hardcore.. saw that it doesnt one hit anymore so I sold it.

I have not picked Stingray but if that's the case, sad for semi auto. People have let semi auto reign for 18 years, only to lose its former glory in re4make.

If 4.9x3 firepower ain't one head shot regular enemies, let's say on island, wonder how much health they have.

[Bomjus]

Originally posted by First_AidS:

Originally posted by Dollmaker:

Probably cause its the most balanced of the rifles.

The first rifle does the most dmg, but its slow, while the other one has high fire rate, but its the weakest.

Stingray is decent at both fronts.

Speaking of which, anyone else think the CQBR is nearly pointless ? Even on standard mode, I rarely had more than 20 rifle rounds in inventory at any given time, usually less. Not to mention that rifles practically require aiming at weakpoints while cqbr is probably going to be inaccurate on full auto. It really should have been given its own ammo type.

CQBR deals more damage than the stingray once you have it's exclusive. it's what i used my exclusive ticket on in my 1st hardcore playthrough.

also if you tap your mouse/fire key it only shoots once. you do NOT have to burst or full auto fire it. it is also pinpoint accurate. whenever i have aimed at something with the ACOG, it has hit what i've aimed at.

[Bomjus]

i really liked the CQBR in my playthrough. more damage than the stingray with the exclusive. so i upgraded just its damage and then used the exclusive ticket on it. so it had more fire rate, damage, and capacity than the stingray for less peseta investment.

it also made the saddler fight stupid easy because i put 3 bullets in quick succession into his legs to knock him down. ammo was never an issue because i used the black attache case so large resources dropped frequently.

and since i wasn't having ammo issues, i cared more about having a semi/full auto rifle for regeneradors than the ammo efficiency of the bolt action.