About RE6 and the possibility of a remake.

[Dollmaker]

So with RE5 remake being all but confirmed by now, i think we should talk about the black sheep of the franchise, RE6.

Everyone knows this is the game thats the most controversial, often being regarded has the worst of RE, it has several issues, from its TERRIBLE UI, to its gameplay feeling completely out of place in RE, to its length, so, if Capcom ever decided to remake this game, then how?

Gameplay:
I think gameplay wouldnt be too hard to address, as seen with RE4make, it has good action while keeping the horror, it can easily serve as a foundation for it, and both of the OG games were know for their excessive use of QTEs, which RE4make addressed pretty well.

The UI needs work, for starter it needs to be more consistent, rather than each character having a different UI, as well as the inventory management, i think so far that the "tetris" style of inventory works best, everyone loved it back in RE4, everyone loves it even now, and even the other remakes plus RE7 and 8 had a more compact variation of it, which could also work, now if they decide to keep the Co-Op aspect of the game, then yeah, i might need some tweaks to "Speed it up" since i doubt most people would want to wait for their partner to finish playing with their case, which is an issue mostly up to RE5 to solve first.

Story and Length issues
Now, what i think is the main problem, story and length, story is really mediocre, this is specially noticeable with Jake's campaign:

Such as how Jake essentially knowing nothing about Wesker, and when finds out who he is, he basically hates him, but when he finds out Chris killed him, he gets mad and tries to shot him... what?

And then theres Sherry who was kinda just there, to the point you could replace her with any other character and the story wouldn't change much, yeah i know her body served as a basis to perfect the C-Virus, but thats doesnt add to her character or anything, that just makes her a plot device.

Another problem is that since the stories are connected, you often ended up playing the same sections multiple times, like the fight against Ustanask (or whatever his ugly face's name was) with Leon and Jake, which can get boring and repetitive easily, which doesnt help for an already long game.

So, besides some mayor rewrites, i think there something else that could work, splitting up the game in parts, and i mean different games, the idea mainly came from 7 and 8, with 7 being the start of the Wither's Saga, and 8 being a direct continuation of it, following where the story left off and 9 being potentially the conclusion of it.

I feel this could help with the pacing of the "games" as well to flesh out the characters better, specially the newcomers of the story, such has Jake and Sherry (yeah she isnt new, but its been like a decade since RE2, shes basically a different character by then)

Keep in mind, the idea largely comes from the fact that we have 4 freaking campaigns to adapt, so its gonna be long no matter what, unless they decide to REALLY rewrite the entire thing, which tbh, might be the better approach.

Conclusion
Yeah, no matter what, RE6 is gonna be hard to remake, if they ever decide to, its too long, it has mayor issues in writing and gameplay, and it has a negative reputation from the fanbase.

But, the sad part about it, its that it was meant to be the "big" RE game, by including characters like Leon and Chris in the same game, it was the "Avengers" of RE in a sense, which funny enough, the new movie coming out Death Island is doing on a even bigger scale by having Jill, Rebecca and Claire as well, with Jill returning to the story since her appearance in RE5 (correct me if im wrong).

So while its gonna be super hard, i think RE6 aka, the big RE crossover, deserves a shot at a remake, or at least a completely new take on it.

[Han Daimond]

RE6 needs a serious COMPLETE overhaul, starting with the story.

I seriously wouldn't mind if they rework or even remove the characters, they weren't memorable anyway.
Leon's partner was whatever.
Pierce or Price or whatever Chris's partner was, his conclusion fell short since he was just introduced, so barely any emotion was felt.
Jake was more like a Devil May Cry character than a RE one.
Sherry was abnormally old, obviously added "for the fans", Capcom went all like "Hey! Sherry's here! Remember her?? Resident Evil 2??? Please get hyped!". Her addition didn't feel genuine.
Villains... I don't even remember the names or who they were. The "Nemesis" monster wasn't even creative.

One thing that I would definitely look for in this remake is an updated version of Mercenaries, it was really fun in co-op.

More than a remake, it needs to be a completely new entry for the series, we could then say "RE6 is finally here".

[Draza]

I think the story should be heavily cut down/rewritten instead of making it multiple games. The 4 campaigns (5 if you count Ada's) thing was too big of a scope for the game, and it shows. Trying to do it again will cause them to make the same mistakes they did before, it just doesn't need to be so big. Could even just do all of it in a single campaign, changing between characters when needed.

Combat would barely need any touching, as it's a really fun and solid combat system that I'm sad they never tried to use again. All it needs is to have its controls streamlined and more clearly explained. Definetly needs maps with better encounter design too, since they wanted you to use guns too much with a system that wants you to use melee as much as possible. The game mechanics felt at odds with the game itself, which you can notice if you play Mercenaries since it works fantastically there.

Inventory absolutely needs changing, since it's absolute ass in 6. Making it a scrolling horizontal bar with a vertical throwable/item bar when you press another button is a terrible design choice, both visually and functionally. It makes me glad there's a quick mix button for herbs because I want to interact with it as little as possible. Worst inventory system they ever made.

And about the HUD... I don't know man, I must be one of the few people that liked how it looked differently depending on the character. It was a unique and interesting way of doing UI, and I think it can still work if they simply make it more readable. I definetly don't want them to do it like they did with 2, 3 and 4, their minimalistic UIs may be functional but they feel so hollow and lifeless.

[Dollmaker]

Originally posted by Han Daimond:

RE6 needs a serious COMPLETE overhaul, starting with the story.

I seriously wouldn't mind if they rework or even remove the characters, they weren't memorable anyway.
Leon's partner was whatever.
Pierce or Price or whatever Chris's partner was, his conclusion fell short since he was just introduced, so barely any emotion was felt.
Jake was more like a Devil May Cry character than a RE one.
Sherry was abnormally old, obviously added "for the fans", Capcom went all like "Hey! Sherry's here! Remember her?? Resident Evil 2??? Please get hyped!". Her addition didn't feel genuine.
Villains... I don't even remember the names or who they were. The "Nemesis" monster wasn't even creative.

One thing that I would definitely look for in this remake is an updated version of Mercenaries, it was really fun in co-op.

More than a remake, it needs to be a completely new entry for the series, we could then say "RE6 is finally here".

Helena i agree the most, she was just whatever and could be easily cut, potentially replaced by Ada, merging his campaign and hers into one, plus who wouldnt want a campaign where the two are partners?

[Skkooomer Lord]

RE6 would need more than a remake to make it a good game.

[Draza]

Originally posted by Dollmaker:

Originally posted by Han Daimond:

RE6 needs a serious COMPLETE overhaul, starting with the story.

I seriously wouldn't mind if they rework or even remove the characters, they weren't memorable anyway.
Leon's partner was whatever.
Pierce or Price or whatever Chris's partner was, his conclusion fell short since he was just introduced, so barely any emotion was felt.
Jake was more like a Devil May Cry character than a RE one.
Sherry was abnormally old, obviously added "for the fans", Capcom went all like "Hey! Sherry's here! Remember her?? Resident Evil 2??? Please get hyped!". Her addition didn't feel genuine.
Villains... I don't even remember the names or who they were. The "Nemesis" monster wasn't even creative.

One thing that I would definitely look for in this remake is an updated version of Mercenaries, it was really fun in co-op.

More than a remake, it needs to be a completely new entry for the series, we could then say "RE6 is finally here".

Helena i agree the most, she was just whatever and could be easily cut, potentially replaced by Ada, merging his campaign and hers into one, plus who wouldnt want a campaign where the two are partners?

That could work really well yeah, specially since they're already partners for the greater part of 2 major boss fights which already take a lot of the campaign's time. All they'd really need to change is how the president gets infected which would definetly be better than "simmons made me do it cause he kidnapped my sister :("

Also considering the main villain of the campaign is Simmons and Ada already has a big personal conflict with him means that you dont even need to rewrite that to justify her being with leon since the start of the campaign

[shiv]

6 if anything is a real blank slate. More than any other game it has the most potential for being almost anything. The potential for meaningful coop, crossover character storytelling, story and location development and expansion, as well as finetuning the narratives and connect them more meaningfully to story developments in the previous remakes... 6 could become a phaneominal game if Capcom legitimately wants to keep making these remakes tentpole games rather than cash grabs.

[j725t]

Originally posted by Draza:

Originally posted by Dollmaker:

Helena i agree the most, she was just whatever and could be easily cut, potentially replaced by Ada, merging his campaign and hers into one, plus who wouldnt want a campaign where the two are partners?

That could work really well yeah, specially since they're already partners for the greater part of 2 major boss fights which already take a lot of the campaign's time. All they'd really need to change is how the president gets infected which would definetly be better than "simmons made me do it cause he kidnapped my sister :("

Also considering the main villain of the campaign is Simmons and Ada already has a big personal conflict with him means that you dont even need to rewrite that to justify her being with leon since the start of the campaign

This or making Ashley his partner would be best IMO

[Dollmaker]

Originally posted by shiv:

6 if anything is a real blank slate. More than any other game it has the most potential for being almost anything. The potential for meaningful coop, crossover character storytelling, story and location development and expansion, as well as finetuning the narratives and connect them more meaningfully to story developments in the previous remakes... 6 could become a phaneominal game if Capcom legitimately wants to keep making these remakes tentpole games rather than cash grabs.

They already showed what they're capable of with RE4, if RE5 turns out well, RE6 might not be out of question, specially since both were Co-Op more action oriented games.

And yeah, Leon and even Chris could use better writing.

[Dollmaker]

Originally posted by j725t:

Originally posted by Draza:

That could work really well yeah, specially since they're already partners for the greater part of 2 major boss fights which already take a lot of the campaign's time. All they'd really need to change is how the president gets infected which would definetly be better than "simmons made me do it cause he kidnapped my sister :("

Also considering the main villain of the campaign is Simmons and Ada already has a big personal conflict with him means that you dont even need to rewrite that to justify her being with leon since the start of the campaign

This or making Ashley his partner would be best IMO

Yeah that aint happening lol.

[j725t]

They could bring Jill back and put her with Chris as well or maybe Sheva (instead of her just disappearing), hell even Rebecca would be better than having a boring new character we dont care about that comes and goes in one game.

[j725t]

Originally posted by Dollmaker:

Originally posted by j725t:

This or making Ashley his partner would be best IMO

Yeah that aint happening lol.

Probably not but it could work theres enough time between games that she could actually become an agent and Leon could be her trainer/partner. I just dont want characters that just show up have barely any character then leave like they like to do with extra characters.

[Dollmaker]

Originally posted by j725t:

Originally posted by Dollmaker:

Yeah that aint happening lol.

Probably not but it could work theres enough time between games that she could actually become an agent and Leon could be her trainer/partner. I just dont want characters that just show up have barely any character then leave like they like to do with extra characters.

I would just prefer if Ada was his partner.

Those two need some time together, plus they could still do that plot thing about Chris being at odds with him due to the fake Ada, aka Carla Radames.

[Vagrant]

I doubt RE5 or 6 will be remade. RE games with online components seems to be a thing of the past.

The last 2 online REs were badly received, so they won't bother.

If they do remake RE5, well, you know what? inb4 they announce there will be no Coop for it.

[DeadSlash]

For anyone who care THERE IS NO CONFIRMATION of a RE:5 REMAKE.

People are trolling you or have been trolled and are parroting the false information.

[Han Daimond]

Originally posted by Dollmaker:

Originally posted by Han Daimond:

RE6 needs a serious COMPLETE overhaul, starting with the story.

I seriously wouldn't mind if they rework or even remove the characters, they weren't memorable anyway.
Leon's partner was whatever.
Pierce or Price or whatever Chris's partner was, his conclusion fell short since he was just introduced, so barely any emotion was felt.
Jake was more like a Devil May Cry character than a RE one.
Sherry was abnormally old, obviously added "for the fans", Capcom went all like "Hey! Sherry's here! Remember her?? Resident Evil 2??? Please get hyped!". Her addition didn't feel genuine.
Villains... I don't even remember the names or who they were. The "Nemesis" monster wasn't even creative.

One thing that I would definitely look for in this remake is an updated version of Mercenaries, it was really fun in co-op.

More than a remake, it needs to be a completely new entry for the series, we could then say "RE6 is finally here".

Helena i agree the most, she was just whatever and could be easily cut, potentially replaced by Ada, merging his campaign and hers into one, plus who wouldnt want a campaign where the two are partners?

That's an interesting proposition, fans would love to see them both working together for sure and their combat styles are different enough; Ada would rather work alone, but even she knows when to use some aid if she can get any benefit from it, and what better than sticking with Leon.