The original is just the better game

[Mtjeeves]

- Firstly for any simpleton level observation of "modern = better" it isn't and rarely it's ever the case.
- The remake might look "shinier" but really it's just a casual version of the original for modern audiences who are not even fans of the real classics
- The original was harder and had more soul than this game
- This game has P2W elements such as mts and deluxe only bonuses, the original is what you see is what you get.
- This game is missing a boss that the original still retains.
- The original was longer, i finished this remake in 13 hours.
- Charms make the game even easier, giving you more ammo and even movespeed
- Treasure system was better in original and were harder to find.
- Merchant sounds much better in the original
- Ashley looks better in the original and was less annoying and cringe than remakes, remake ashley had awkward flirting and lines as to not offend any flakes. She also wore "skorts" instead of a skirt so players wouldnt look up it... I asked seven of my ex's on whatsapp if they ever wore or heard of skorts, two said they didn't know it existed and the rest said they never wore them. Girls don't wear skorts and they were added for political reasons.
- Luis is actually a bit better than og and a bit more fleshed out, a rare win here.
- Ada looks and sounds much better in the original, new VA is horrible and the satin dress was much better than the jumper dress with knee high s&m stomping boots,
- Remake doubled down on novistadores which were a much hated enemy = bad choice
- Some areas were just reversed when they didn't need to be so the original wins there.
- Sadler was a clown in the remake and Salazar was quite funny i supppose.
- Big cheese was better and better VA in original, also remake had a dumb follow section with him
- Island was better in the original and the regenerators were scarier than the remake, they had a comedic fatter look and waddle run animation.
- Some pointless side quests in the remake as filler
- Overall if we're ranking them:
Og re 1-2-3-cvx-outbreak 1&2 > Re2 + re3 remakes > og re4 > re4 remake
As for re4 i'll stick to re4 og on ps4 and even performed better than remake re4 aswell on ps4 which should run perfectly, it's not doing anything amazing.

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Originally posted by Mtjeeves:

- Firstly for any simpleton level observation of "modern = better" it isn't and rarely it's ever the case.

old isn't exactly better either, simpleton.

[PenguinOfTheSands]

Originally posted by Aegis:

ok

This is the correct response. Cool, OP you think the original is better. Why did you write an essay, trying to convince others or maybe even yourself that you're right?

[SonVagon]

Original was a video game that was made with love. The remake is a product of Capcom's greed to profit from the nostalgia. The cut content, selling upgrade tickets, ♥♥♥♥♥♥ soundtracks and va, game having ps4 graphics are all the proof you need. Why is pc not getting any updates and fixes? Because why would they? They just sold it to everyone and got their money. Why should they care?

[Draza]

Originally posted by SonVagon:

Original was a video game that was made with love. The remake is a product of Capcom's greed to profit from the nostalgia. The cut content, selling upgrade tickets, ♥♥♥♥♥♥ soundtracks and va, game having ps4 graphics are all the proof you need. Why is pc not getting any updates and fixes? Because why would they? They just sold it to everyone and got their money. Why should they care?

It's clear the developers didn't care, as the remake is not desaturated and brown so it's not immersive at all.

[Mtjeeves]

Originally posted by bshock:

The original in VR is the best version IMO.

It's definitely better than this

Originally posted by TrashPanda5000:

I love 95% of the hate comes from the lack of cheesy dialog and one bad voice actor whose hardly in the game. Goes to show you how good the remake actually is

You're wrong about that, it's too easy and casual which is a big deal

Originally posted by Sigvuld:

These posts are so weird every time

Why cause people have a different opinion?

Originally posted by SiXX:

Didn't feel as satisfying... While some aspects are surely better in the remake i felt the gameplay was not one of them. Controls felt clunky, weapons reticle huge, enemies didn't stagger consistently and so on... Probably because the original is an action game while the remake tries to be survival horror forcing some gameplay elements from re2r i didn't really appreciate fully... I never felt in control of Leon cause the controls and his movements were so sluggish and that's a problem when the game spawns so many enemies. The OG, felt more consistent with its gameplay but that doesn't mean the remake isn't better in other aspects.. EDIT: Ada voice tho is really bad but her model is better ofc.... I find that the author of this topic is criticizing the game for all the wrong reasons though

I agree with alot of that, it's mostly a shiny coat of paint but missing soul.

Originally posted by Diego Umejuarez:

Originally posted by Mtjeeves:

- Firstly for any simpleton level observation of "modern = better" it isn't and rarely it's ever the case.

old isn't exactly better either, simpleton.

It often is tho, same with films, the overwhelming majority of the time older films were better. We have have nonsense such a political reasons to give a character certain clothing ect.

[X.Crystalx.X]

Originally posted by Mtjeeves:

Originally posted by bshock:

The original in VR is the best version IMO.

It's definitely better than this

Originally posted by TrashPanda5000:

I love 95% of the hate comes from the lack of cheesy dialog and one bad voice actor whose hardly in the game. Goes to show you how good the remake actually is

You're wrong about that, it's too easy and casual which is a big deal

Originally posted by Sigvuld:

These posts are so weird every time

Why cause people have a different opinion?

Originally posted by SiXX:

Didn't feel as satisfying... While some aspects are surely better in the remake i felt the gameplay was not one of them. Controls felt clunky, weapons reticle huge, enemies didn't stagger consistently and so on... Probably because the original is an action game while the remake tries to be survival horror forcing some gameplay elements from re2r i didn't really appreciate fully... I never felt in control of Leon cause the controls and his movements were so sluggish and that's a problem when the game spawns so many enemies. The OG, felt more consistent with its gameplay but that doesn't mean the remake isn't better in other aspects.. EDIT: Ada voice tho is really bad but her model is better ofc.... I find that the author of this topic is criticizing the game for all the wrong reasons though

I agree with alot of that, it's mostly a shiny coat of paint but missing soul.

Originally posted by Diego Umejuarez:

old isn't exactly better either, simpleton.

It often is tho, same with films, the overwhelming majority of the time older films were better. We have have nonsense such a political reasons to give a character certain clothing ect.

True, movies hadn't been same at all lol I feel like I'm watching the same movie over and over again.

[doto]

every time someone criticizes RE4R for ashley's outfit and not being able to peak up it, that person loses all validity in their opinion and looks like an absolute and utter clown.

i still aint giving you the award, though.

[Mögbär]

It's cute how you try to make it sound like any of your statements are objective facts or even arguments. "Game X is better because aspect Y of it is better", is not.

Originally posted by Mtjeeves:

- Firstly for any simpleton level observation of "modern = better" it isn't and rarely it's ever the case.

Way to start your list with an ad hominem diss. And while it's true that modern doesn't automatically equal better, developments happen for a reason. Modern games, for instance, allow you to save your game where appropriate and later play on where you left, instead of forcing you to restart over and over again or write down level codes somewhere. It's little improvements like that that make modern games better, generally speaking.

The remake might look "shinier" but really it's just a casual version of the original for modern audiences who are not even fans of the real classics

Another ad hominem? Fine, here: this is just a dumb statement. Now stop it with the loaded language, you sound like a backland cult leader.

The original was harder and had more soul than this game

Remake didn't feel noticably easier to me. Define soul, please. Or are you just parroting that youtuber?

This game has P2W elements such as mts and deluxe only bonuses, the original is what you see is what you get.

Doesn't affect the actual game quality, though. You can criticize the monetarization alright, but you can literally just play without any of those things. I'd also like to remind you that the original released in several different versions with varying content. I bought it three times in total until I had an edition that contained everything. (And even that one came with a caveat.) Not sure that's any better.

This game is missing a boss that the original still retains.

Just like modern =/= better: more =/= better. This is a purely subjective impression, so there's no right or wrong, but I don't miss that boss fight and don't think the game is worse for not having it. It always felt a little out of place to me, but it's not like I dislike the boss, either. Agree to disagree, I guess.

The original was longer, i finished this remake in 13 hours.

Well, I didn't. What now? Also, remember more =/= better?

Charms make the game even easier, giving you more ammo and even movespeed

Don't ... use them? Also, you have to get those charms first, too.

Treasure system was better in original and were harder to find.

What about it is better? (Or even noticably different, for that matter?) Harder to find? Nope.

Merchant sounds much better in the original

Or maybe it's just a matter of being used to the original one first. We might very well say the same in a parallel universe where the two are switched out. I'd also argue the "much" there. The new guy did a good job. But there's no arguing this, it's your valid opinion. An opinion, though.

Ashley looks better in the original and was less annoying and cringe than remakes,

??? You really need to explain this ni more detail.

remake ashley had awkward flirting and lines as to not offend any flakes.

Awkward flirting and lines in contrast to the original game in which she had awkward flirting and lines? Who would've been offended and by what? Can you name anyone? You honestly believe people would be offended by Ashley not having awkward flirting and lines?

She also wore "skorts" instead of a skirt so players wouldnt look up it...

Oh, is this why you like the remake less? Not being able to look at cartoon panties? I'm surprised by to how many people this is a defining characteristic of quality in videogames. Are they as surprised by to how many it isn't?

I asked seven of my ex's on whatsapp

That certainly happened.

if they ever wore or heard of skorts, two said they didn't know it existed and the rest said they never wore them.

So your purely anecdotal example is universal now or something? I'm a guy and not only have I known what they are, I also knew they are called skorts in English without English being my native language.

Girls don't wear skorts

So they are being produced to go straight to the dumpster? Doesn't sound like an advisable business model.

and they were added for political reasons.

Yes, I was watching the news yesterday as they reported on warcrimes being commited in the Ukraine and they literally interrupted the broadcast with an urgent report about Ashley Graham in the Resident Evil 4 remake wearing skorts. Do you people even hear yourselves? Political ... that's so ... I don't know how to say this without being insulting, so I won't. Sorry.

Besides, unless you try to look up under them, you won't even realize they are skorts and not a short skirt. How in the <3 does that even remotely affect the game or how good it is?

Ada looks and sounds much better in the original, new VA is horrible and the satin dress was much better than the jumper dress with knee high s&m stomping boots,

Yeah, I'm not taking any fashion advice from you or your seven exes.

- Remake doubled down on novistadores which were a much hated enemy = bad choice

Some people like them? I think they were great in most areas they were in in the original and think they could've been used better in the remake, so I'd agree the original did them better. But please elaborate on "doubled down".

Some areas were just reversed when they didn't need to be so the original wins there.

Why?

Sadler was a clown in the remake and Salazar was quite funny i supppose.

Agreed, these two were rather disappointing.

Big cheese was better and better VA in original, also remake had a dumb follow section with him

Did he even speak in the original much? I did like him better there, though, but it's not much of a difference. How is that section "dumb"? It takes maybe thirty seconds to run through. Or is that what you disliked about it? Did you want him chasing you around to be a greater part of the game?

(Actually, that does sound kind of interesting ...^^)

Island was better in the original

Hard disagree. Care to explain why?

and the regenerators were scarier than the remake, they had a comedic fatter look and waddle run animation.

Kind of, but if you played the original, you knew how to handle them. This seems like one of those things that you just cannot replicate. I did appreciate they changed them enough to make them feel fresh and threatening again, even if I have to admit I was more annoyed than scared by them after the innitial surprise wore off.

- Some pointless side quests in the remake as filler

Don't do them then? How does something you can literally ignore make the game worse? Most of them can and will be done on your way while you go through the game and don't take up enough extra time to count as filler. There's what, three mini-bosses you can go hunt down which takes, like ten minutes maximum each including running there and back afterwards?

Overall if we're ranking them:

Who is "we"? Oh, you mean "you". Ok.

As for re4 i'll stick to re4 og on ps4 and even performed better than remake re4 aswell on ps4 which should run perfectly, it's not doing anything amazing.

Well, this is the Steam board, so I don't know about PS4 performance, but are you seriously praising a PS2-level game for running well on the PS4? Good for you, though, enjoy RE4. It's still a great game.

[Moon]

I'm just here to say, U-3 was a trash fight and one of the worst and boring parts of RE4 OG. The new game made not only better controls with parry and moving WITH aiming then the sense of ammo being hard to have but it keeps you on edge feeling you struggle to pass by unlike og it felt you had a whole Military supply locker with you. also...need we even say how OG Re4 wasn't hard if you was a chad to shoot faces/knees and knife 90% of the enemies. lets be real- the real positive is the bugs wasn't invisible. the ticket upgrade buy-able with irl money is kinda doo-doo but it is what it is. you don't need to buy it or the outfit's or even the 2 guns, the skull shaker is good for starting and the pistol is just a extended blickky over the base gun. but curse you Capcom for making us walk in a to be 10 mile hallway. Really RE4 OG holds a special place in my heart but RE4 2023 is on par and with its vast of improvements and its (not so liked) changes i am happy to tell friends to play both but really play the new one due to better controls and somewhat realistic - when i was a kid i though Leon was some godsend round housing giga-chad with one liners and emo hair. now i see him has the little cop he was but built into a better realistic man who saw some things.

[Ronnie42]

Umm yeh feel like the original is a lot better. I mean yeh RE4 remake graphics are of better but the remake itself just doesn't seem as good as the original and I hate what they did to Ada's character.

[Ice_Tea_Zero]

Dear OP, can we please stop complaining about not being able to sexual harass Ashley? This is on the same level with "why can't I kill children in game XY" and sounds kinda creepy and worrying.

[K]

The biggest problem with this game is how short it is, same thing with re3 remake.

[Kitt 🌟 Stargazer]

Originally posted by Sir George:

The biggest problem with this game is how short it is, same thing with re3 remake.

People can beat the remake in an around an hour and 30 minutes already? That's how fast me and my friends would finish the original game...

[BaLuX]

Originally posted by Moushley:

Originally posted by Sir George:

The biggest problem with this game is how short it is, same thing with re3 remake.

People can beat the remake in an around an hour and 30 minutes already? That's how fast me and my friends would finish the original game...

Both re3 remake and re4 remake have approximately the same length as their original counterparts.

[Han Daimond]

Originally posted by Sir George:

The biggest problem with this game is how short it is, same thing with re3 remake.

Oh hell no, that's not an accurate comparison.
RE3R's first playthrough took me like 10 hours and RE4R 22, there's more stuff to do here.