Crowbcat: soul vs soulless Resident Evil 4 comparison

[talloyer]

Will the fanboys of the remake of Resident Evil 4 be upset?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=83BhJAZrXrc

About the audio: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QBnM3jPX9aU

EDIT4: Crowbcat recommended this interesting fair review of Resident Evil 4 remake which has been hidden by "the algoritm". I cannot see why, there is nothing wrong about it: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FcJGvS4f-HQ

EDIT3: (22/04/2023) Crowbcat added more proof he did not mess with the audio:

https://i.imgur.com/Gvw0Ei3.mp4
If you want to compare audio levels yourself:
youtu.be/83BhJAZrXrc?t=97 -> youtu.be/D-ZtNbCUtd0?t=5378
youtu.be/83BhJAZrXrc?t=108 -> youtu.be/puWTz8toRHc?t=11300

EDIT2: Crowbcat changed BACK the title and original of his video to their original form. He added an observation at the bottom of the restored description of his video:

(no more title shenanigans, thanks for watching)

EDIT: I am putting here the ORIGINAL description of Crowbcat's video (thanks, "Mu") and keeping the title of my topic since he(?) apparently got too spooked by the remake fanboys:

"This is a critical one-sided comparison mostly about art & cinematic direction. Observe and draw your own conclusions.

Recorded on NGC version (upscaled, 30 fps) for its original color saturation & lighting. Sequences are not necessarily in chronological order."

I am disappointed with Crowbcat's cowardice especially when changing the title and description fundamentally changes the message of his video, yet it is dissonant because the content of the video remains the same, which was to insinuate the changes of the remake were worse than the original. Imagine if he changed the title of his "GTA IV is better than GTA V" video to "GTAV is a flawless masterpiece" and kept that video the same; just as bad.
Honestly, all Crowbcat should have done was to only change the title of his video to something like "Resident Evil 4 lost its soul", since even I have to admit calling the remake "soulless" was a stretch, and I play several Ubisoft games so I know what IS soulless. To me, Capcom did to Resident Evil 4 remake what a group of artists would do if they tried to remake Michelangelo's "The Creation of Adam" to "fit modern standards". Could it LOOK better? Yes-ish, but would definitely lose the soul of original art in the process.
Crowbcat ironically made himself soulless by not sticking with his original message. He should delete this video and rethink his life choices to recover some dignity.

[AS9ARDIAN]

Og's charisma is unmatched imho, but saying that the remake is "soulless" seems a bit harsh to be fair. for sure it's darker and maybe a bit flat when it comes to voice acting/pacing/ background music.

The original is a rollercoaster really and still has that late 90' early 2000 arcade magic lightness and "ignorance", while the remake instead take itself quite seriously.

That being said this RE4R is probably the best we can get in the modern gaming industry, one of the best game I've played in the last 10 years, maybe more.

[VibeCheck]

Originalmente postado por Mu:

Originalmente postado por Delerium:

Learn to read between the lines.

Learn to follow a discussion.

I admit to struggle following someone without a point.

[Jalir]

Originalmente postado por Mu:

Originalmente postado por Jalir:

A rhetorical question for you, as you seem to enjoy them; what does soul vs soulless imply, if not to say RE4 soul vs RE4R soulless?

You're not following the crux of my first post, this Crow guy is more than likely in favour of RE4 on GC, you can assume this through his first sentence in the video's description.

My response was to this clown dispensing, 'bad faith' guy's argument, emphasis on argument.

The video shows objective comparisons, areas and animations that appear in both RE4 and RE4R without misrepresenting one or the other (you can argue GC didn't render at this resolution but there have been HD ports since), more importantly he doesn't shower each comparison with his own thoughts which aligns with his description:

"This is a critical one-sided comparison mostly about art & cinematic direction. Observe and draw your own conclusions.

He shows scenes/animations that he thinks looks better on the original, whether you agree with it or not is for you to conclude, yet here we have people acting like their favourite toy got defamed.

While I concede that I haven't been following this direct line of discussion as I haven't read the whole 100+ post thread, I don't think I necessarily agree with your assertion that the video creator in question did not misrepresent one game or the other. It's clearly very obvious that he has a bias towards the original GC release, and it is also very obvious he cherry picked scenes they liked from the GC release to compare with cherry picked scenes they disliked from the remake. The absence of commentary is not indicative of a lack of bias, as again, it is clearly obvious that this video is set up in such a way to have "maximum effect" to prove their "point" about the comparison between the original and the remake. All they managed to prove is that the remake is .... different. Of course it is. If it wasn't, it would hardly be able to be called re-made. Again, I ask, what does soul vs soulless imply, if not to say RE4 soul vs RE4R soulless?

[talloyer]

Crowbcat was very bold this time. He(?) chose to nitpick a game with overall appraise instead of the usual broken generic game that everybody loves to hate, and way too many people got bootythurt with the word "soulless". While I do think it is a stretch to call the remake of Resident Evil 4 "soulless" it is undeniable Capcom transfigured the essence of the original game into something else, hence losing its "soul". And Crowbcat clearly took issues with that, where majority of the fans of the remake are rendering the original worthless or obsolete, which I applaud Crowbcat.
https://youtu.be/3Q0nZDMOJ2I
Like some artist trying to remake Michelangelo's "The Creation of Adam" to meet "modern standards" not only by changing ethnicity or the gender of Adam but also the size of his p***s, his physical build, the appearance of God, the shape of the angels, changing the whole scenery in many details (weather, time of day, positions and angles of God and Adam, adding unnecessary props)... the picture could still look great on its on but definitely lose its essence compared to the historical masterpiece.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SxN5ShX896E
Which is why the remake of the FIRST Resident Evil is still exemplary: Shinji Mikami really cared about keeping practically every content in the original but remaking them into something superior, while adding new areas, lore and enemies and tweaking existing areas into something refreshing, and worked so well it rendered the 1996 version obsolete, only worth for nostalgia or curiosity. NOT what happened to the last 3 remakes of Resident Evil, not even Resident Evil 4.

[kaffekoppen]

Originalmente postado por Mu:

Clickbait
L take
Dissapointed me
Dropped the ball

Some of you people need to learn how to communicate instead of using pidgeon-level slang or one-liners (I thought you didn't like that about the original? I jest), the interesting thing about this video is that there is no writing, a lot of you are reflecting because you have nothing to hang onto besides the footage itself.

Well I was the one who brought up clickbait, and I think that's a fair criticism. The title is "soul vs soulless Resident Evil 4 comparison". Totally over-dramatic for attention, and it clearly worked.

The description doesn't change whether it's clickbait, but I'm glad he at least realizes it's one-sided.

Critical thinking should tell you that someone who has already told you what to think in the title cannot be trusted to provide a fair and balanced comparison.

Originalmente postado por talloyer:

Crowbcat was very bold this time. He(?) chose to nitpick a game with overall appraise instead of the usual broken generic game that everybody loves to hate, and way too many people got bootythurt with the word "soulless". While I do think it is a stretch to call the remake of Resident Evil 4 "soulless" it is undeniable Capcom transfigured the essence of the original game into something else, hence losing its "soul". And Crowbcat clearly took issues with that, where majority of the fans of the remake are rendering the original worthless or obsolete, which I applaud Crowbcat.

They changed the tone of the game for sure, and I can completely understand why not everyone likes that. I really have no problem with someone calling that out. That doesn't make the remake soulless.

It doesn't make the original worthless or obsolete, by the way, even if you like the remake.

[mw00]

I am laughing at people getting butthurt over objective, unbiased video without any kind of commentary.

[mw00]

Originalmente postado por kaffekoppen:

Originalmente postado por Mu:

Clickbait
L take
Dissapointed me
Dropped the ball

Some of you people need to learn how to communicate instead of using pidgeon-level slang or one-liners (I thought you didn't like that about the original? I jest), the interesting thing about this video is that there is no writing, a lot of you are reflecting because you have nothing to hang onto besides the footage itself.

Well I was the one who brought up clickbait, and I think that's a fair criticism. The title is "soul vs soulless Resident Evil 4 comparison". Totally over-dramatic for attention, and it clearly worked.

The description doesn't change whether it's clickbait, but I'm glad he at least realizes it's one-sided.

Critical thinking should tell you that someone who has already told you what to think in the title cannot be trusted to provide a fair and balanced comparison.

the title is just a meme people like to say. It doesn't even tell you which game or part are supposed to be soulless, its just a meme.

[Steel]

Originalmente postado por error2k:

LMAO at people getting butthurt over objective, unbiased video without any kind of commentary.

There is commentary. The description admits the comparison is one-sided, the title of the video is "Soul vs Soulless". The entire video aims to paint the original game in a positive light and the remake in a negative light using superficial audio/visual elements differences.

You can say things without having to turn on your mic.

[Jalir]

Originalmente postado por error2k:

I am laughing at people getting butthurt over objective, unbiased video without any kind of commentary.

Yeah, it is absolutely not possible to demonstrate bias when you don't provide explicit commentary to explain what you are trying to convey. Not even a little bit.

[mw00]

Originalmente postado por Steel:

Originalmente postado por error2k:

LMAO at people getting butthurt over objective, unbiased video without any kind of commentary.

There is commentary. The description admits the comparison is one-sided, the title of the video is "Soul vs Soulless". The entire video aims to paint the original game in a positive light and the remake in a negative light using superficial audio/visual elements differences.

You can say things without having to turn on your mic.

"This is a critical one-sided comparison mostly about art & cinematic direction"
it's one sided because he only compares art & cinematic direction, and ignores gameplay. But his comparisons are fully unbiased, since it's just raw footage of same scenes from both games to see how the remake fares to the original game in same spots

[Skkooomer Lord]

I don;t understand why both sides are mad about either game TBH, heck the ones crying the most never bought the game.

[mw00]

Originalmente postado por Jalir:

Originalmente postado por error2k:

I am laughing at people getting butthurt over objective, unbiased video without any kind of commentary.

Yeah, it is absolutely not possible to demonstrate bias when you don't provide explicit commentary to explain what you are trying to convey. Not even a little bit.

explain to me whats biased about showing same scenes from both games side by side? did he modify colors, or graphics?

[Jalir]

Originalmente postado por Genki:

I don;t understand why both sides are mad about either game TBH, heck the ones crying the most never bought the game.

Both "sides" aren't mad. One is. The one that hasn't bought the game, or played it.

[mw00]

Originalmente postado por Jalir:

Originalmente postado por Genki:

I don;t understand why both sides are mad about either game TBH, heck the ones crying the most never bought the game.

Both "sides" aren't mad. One is. The one that hasn't bought the game, or played it.

you seem pretty mad about the video. And Ive seen people on reddit calling crowbcat sexist and racist because he showed cutscenes from both games side by side

[Jalir]

Originalmente postado por error2k:

Originalmente postado por Jalir:

Both "sides" aren't mad. One is. The one that hasn't bought the game, or played it.

you seem pretty mad about the video. Ive seen people on reddit calling crowbcat sexist and racist because he showed cutscenes from both games side by side

I'm not mad about the video. I enjoy Crow's videos and am an active subscriber. I disagree with you all hopping on the bandwagon with the idea that the remake is soulless based on a very biased video. I don't know what saying people calling him sexist or racist has anything to do with any point I have made.