Capcom and cheating.

[Valk]

Seeing as Capcom has stated that they don't like cheats, and also view mods as cheating, why on earth do they then turn around and sell literal P2W DLC that trivialises the hardest part of the S+ run for this game.

I mean I get that its "money > principles" for a corporation like capcom, but at the same time, it seems so blindingly obvious that they just want to sell cheats instead that even a child would be able to figure it out. Feels like they're leaving a really damn easy target on themselves for negative press.

[THE VERY REVEREND MISTER BONK]

Which is funny because they didn't even bother adding anti-cheat to those multiplayer abominations that nobody wanted.

[Deathraven13]

If they wanted to fight cheaters they would use an anti cheat rather than a DRM so it's just an excuse.

Maybe they really want to sell those tickets because you know they love money that's why they sell story DLCs (OG RE4 had both ADA campaign for free), I think they sold infinite ammo for RE2R & 3 for 5$ or something in case you didn't wanted to do it yourself.

Keep in mind that for some years CAPCOM focused on PC because the market is good here but what they don't know is that it's thanks to mods and randomizers, people to these days still play OG RE1/2/3 due to randomizers.

IMO the worst part is that UBISOFT and CAPCOM can do all of this and receive less backlash than KONAMI, I've blacklisted CAPCOM so steam won't advertise their products to me (search a capcom game, click on CAPCOM in the store page, click on the parameter button that look like a cog then you take the ignore option).

Why the heck would I buy a game that is inferior to console and even worse: Worse than what pirates will illegaly receive for free ? No more money from me until they backtrack.

PS: I bought RE4R on sale for 40$ for the deluxe edition because that's what it's really worth without the cut content, not going to buy the ADA story until capcom resolve this issue but maybe I'll manage to play it in some ways, like if someone I know own it.

[THE VERY REVEREND MISTER BONK]

Originally posted by Deathraven13:

If they wanted to fight cheaters they would use an anti cheat rather than a DRM so it's just an excuse.

Maybe they really want to sell those tickets because you know they love money that's why they sell story DLCs (OG RE4 had both ADA campaign for free), I think they sold infinite ammo for RE2R & 3 for 5$ or something in case you didn't wanted to do it yourself.

Keep in mind that for some years CAPCOM focused on PC because the market is good here but what they don't know is that it's thanks to mods and randomizers, people to these days still play OG RE1/2/3 due to randomizers.

IMO the worst part is that UBISOFT and CAPCOM can do all of this and receive less backlash than KONAMI, I've blacklisted CAPCOM so steam won't advertise their products to me (search a capcom game, click on CAPCOM in the store page, click on the parameter button that look like a cog then you take the ignore option).

Why the heck would I buy a game that is inferior to console and even worse: Worse than what pirates will illegaly receive for free ? No more money from me until they backtrack.

PS: I bought RE4R on sale for 40$ for the deluxe edition because that's what it's really worth without the cut content, not going to buy the ADA story until capcom resolve this issue but maybe I'll manage to play it in some ways, like if someone I know own it.

It's really disturbing that PC users seem to have been blacklisted in recent years. Console users have better experiences now across the board.

Shoddy porting is to blame for some of it, along with abandoned product that are never updated. Nevertheless PC users are considered second class now.

[Valk]

Originally posted by Deathraven13:

If they wanted to fight cheaters they would use an anti cheat rather than a DRM so it's just an excuse.

Maybe they really want to sell those tickets because you know they love money that's why they sell story DLCs (OG RE4 had both ADA campaign for free), I think they sold infinite ammo for RE2R & 3 for 5$ or something in case you didn't wanted to do it yourself.

Keep in mind that for some years CAPCOM focused on PC because the market is good here but what they don't know is that it's thanks to mods and randomizers, people to these days still play OG RE1/2/3 due to randomizers.

IMO the worst part is that UBISOFT and CAPCOM can do all of this and receive less backlash than KONAMI, I've blacklisted CAPCOM so steam won't advertise their products to me (search a capcom game, click on CAPCOM in the store page, click on the parameter button that look like a cog then you take the ignore option).

Why the heck would I buy a game that is inferior to console and even worse: Worse than what pirates will illegaly receive for free ? No more money from me until they backtrack.

PS: I bought RE4R on sale for 40$ for the deluxe edition because that's what it's really worth without the cut content, not going to buy the ADA story until capcom resolve this issue but maybe I'll manage to play it in some ways, like if someone I know own it.

So many mistakes here.

They're literally starting to invest into anti-cheat stuff now in the form of Enigma. Whilst it doesn't "block mods and cheats" in the way the news is sensationalising, it DOES make it significantly harder to make scripts function, which is the form that most cheats come in. This comes as Capcom is shifting away from Denuvo, the pure DRM.

I have no idea why this needs to be repeated so damn often, but Ada's "big" DLC was never "free" in the sense that modern DLC is. Rather, anyone who bought the game originally had to re-buy the ENTIRE game in order to play the DLC, as it was only included for the re-release of the game. Whilst you might say "yes but that means it was a free part of the re-released game", that isn't really the same as what free DLC is. Rather, that would be akin to a "gold edition" selling you the game+dlc at a discounted price. Ada's second campaign was quite literally "a DLC that cost the price of the full game" for anyone who bought the original version. Ontop of this, the Ada DLC in the remake is significantly longer and got a huge rework from the original game, to the point it might as well be a different thing entirely. And don't go and claim they also hacked out the other Ada DLC to sell back to you aswell, because there's basically no sign of that being remade at all, and frankly it wasn't really even that good in the original either to the point the game was better off without it.

People these days still play OG RE1/2/3 because they're good games, plain and simple. The randomisers might help get more replay value out of them sure, but they certainly aren't used by the majority of players. *Mods never are*.

Then this whole argument people make about "inferior to console" versions is just complete and utter nonsense in many cases. Yes, you get a few performance hits from the DRM being in it sure, but at the same time, the game itself will be running at a SIGNIFICANTLY higher quality in most cases, especially when you have a very high end rig. You are not going to pull native 4k60 on Ultra with raytracing on and get a stable framerate and no visual issues on a console. If you get the occasional dip of 10 frames, that isn't enough to say it is "an inferior version". Yes it would be BETTER without DRM, but even with DRM it is still performing at a far higher level than consoles can.

We both want the same thing, for Capcom to shove off and stop forcing their stupid decisions on the players, but the best way to do that is to actually push the right points frankly. It is still unlikely to do anything, but on the offchance that it does, you don't want everything to fall apart the moment someone actually analyses the points made.

[BEEP!]

Enigma doesn't even stop the most basic game trainer the only cheat it seems it can stop is cheat engine which has had a work around for almost two years that still works so the peaple at Enigma don't even update there drm to combat modern cheats it's very cheap fir a reason.

[Lu2]

there are cool , toxic and cheaty mods in monster hunter world
having some ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ posting results of dps in chat in monster hunter world is very toxic if you ask me

[Smexy]

Originally posted by Deathraven13:

If they wanted to fight cheaters they would use an anti cheat rather than a DRM so it's just an excuse.

Maybe they really want to sell those tickets because you know they love money that's why they sell story DLCs (OG RE4 had both ADA campaign for free), I think they sold infinite ammo for RE2R & 3 for 5$ or something in case you didn't wanted to do it yourself.

Keep in mind that for some years CAPCOM focused on PC because the market is good here but what they don't know is that it's thanks to mods and randomizers, people to these days still play OG RE1/2/3 due to randomizers.

IMO the worst part is that UBISOFT and CAPCOM can do all of this and receive less backlash than KONAMI, I've blacklisted CAPCOM so steam won't advertise their products to me (search a capcom game, click on CAPCOM in the store page, click on the parameter button that look like a cog then you take the ignore option).

Why the heck would I buy a game that is inferior to console and even worse: Worse than what pirates will illegaly receive for free ? No more money from me until they backtrack.

PS: I bought RE4R on sale for 40$ for the deluxe edition because that's what it's really worth without the cut content, not going to buy the ADA story until capcom resolve this issue but maybe I'll manage to play it in some ways, like if someone I know own it.

the original re4 those dlcs weren't free. they were literally made and sold with the game, that means whatever you paid for the game those were included lmfao stop using that argument. i agree with the rest tho

[Valk]

Originally posted by Smexy:

Originally posted by Deathraven13:

If they wanted to fight cheaters they would use an anti cheat rather than a DRM so it's just an excuse.

Maybe they really want to sell those tickets because you know they love money that's why they sell story DLCs (OG RE4 had both ADA campaign for free), I think they sold infinite ammo for RE2R & 3 for 5$ or something in case you didn't wanted to do it yourself.

Keep in mind that for some years CAPCOM focused on PC because the market is good here but what they don't know is that it's thanks to mods and randomizers, people to these days still play OG RE1/2/3 due to randomizers.

IMO the worst part is that UBISOFT and CAPCOM can do all of this and receive less backlash than KONAMI, I've blacklisted CAPCOM so steam won't advertise their products to me (search a capcom game, click on CAPCOM in the store page, click on the parameter button that look like a cog then you take the ignore option).

Why the heck would I buy a game that is inferior to console and even worse: Worse than what pirates will illegaly receive for free ? No more money from me until they backtrack.

PS: I bought RE4R on sale for 40$ for the deluxe edition because that's what it's really worth without the cut content, not going to buy the ADA story until capcom resolve this issue but maybe I'll manage to play it in some ways, like if someone I know own it.

the original re4 those dlcs weren't free. they were literally made and sold with the game, that means whatever you paid for the game those were included lmfao stop using that argument. i agree with the rest tho

No, yet again, they were NOT.
Assignment Ada was. Separate Ways was only added in the SECOND release of the game. It was not available EVER in the original gamecube version of the game. The ONLY way to play Separate ways if you bought the game on gamecube when it first came out was to buy the NEW version of the game that released on other platforms which came with Separate ways as part of it. Yes, if you DIDNT play the gamecube version it might APPEAR that it was a free inclusion, but the reality is that it was not. A comparable example of this would be Persona 4 Golden and Persona 5 Royal. Nobody would describe Golden and Royal as being "free DLCs" because of how you had to buy the entire game again to get access to the Golden or Royal content, and it was not a free upgrade to the next gen/new version.

[Smexy]

Originally posted by Valk:

Originally posted by Smexy:

the original re4 those dlcs weren't free. they were literally made and sold with the game, that means whatever you paid for the game those were included lmfao stop using that argument. i agree with the rest tho

No, yet again, they were NOT.
Assignment Ada was. Separate Ways was only added in the SECOND release of the game. It was not available EVER in the original gamecube version of the game. The ONLY way to play Separate ways if you bought the game on gamecube when it first came out was to buy the NEW version of the game that released on other platforms which came with Separate ways as part of it. Yes, if you DIDNT play the gamecube version it might APPEAR that it was a free inclusion, but the reality is that it was not. A comparable example of this would be Persona 4 Golden and Persona 5 Royal. Nobody would describe Golden and Royal as being "free DLCs" because of how you had to buy the entire game again to get access to the Golden or Royal content, and it was not a free upgrade to the next gen/new version.

so its not FREE if it's part of a new exclusive release bruh HAHAHAH. can you get it on gamecube? no. you had to buy a specific version of the game. that doesn't make it free and doesn't mean you are entitled to a free version of it on a remake. idk if that was even your point but people who think separate ways should be free on a whole new game are whack

[Valk]

Originally posted by Smexy:

Originally posted by Valk:

No, yet again, they were NOT.
Assignment Ada was. Separate Ways was only added in the SECOND release of the game. It was not available EVER in the original gamecube version of the game. The ONLY way to play Separate ways if you bought the game on gamecube when it first came out was to buy the NEW version of the game that released on other platforms which came with Separate ways as part of it. Yes, if you DIDNT play the gamecube version it might APPEAR that it was a free inclusion, but the reality is that it was not. A comparable example of this would be Persona 4 Golden and Persona 5 Royal. Nobody would describe Golden and Royal as being "free DLCs" because of how you had to buy the entire game again to get access to the Golden or Royal content, and it was not a free upgrade to the next gen/new version.

so its not FREE if it's part of a new exclusive release bruh HAHAHAH. can you get it on gamecube? no. you had to buy a specific version of the game. that doesn't make it free and doesn't mean you are entitled to a free version of it on a remake. idk if that was even your point but people who think separate ways should be free on a whole new game are whack

So you disagree with me saying Separate ways is fine being paid because it was never a free dlc...and now you're saying that you agree with it only a single message later? Are you trying to play both sides or something?

[Seamus]

Seems more like one of the two of you misunderstood at some point in the conversation and needs to go back and re-read some stuff, tbh.

[Smexy]

Originally posted by Valk:

Originally posted by Smexy:

so its not FREE if it's part of a new exclusive release bruh HAHAHAH. can you get it on gamecube? no. you had to buy a specific version of the game. that doesn't make it free and doesn't mean you are entitled to a free version of it on a remake. idk if that was even your point but people who think separate ways should be free on a whole new game are whack

So you disagree with me saying Separate ways is fine being paid because it was never a free dlc...and now you're saying that you agree with it only a single message later? Are you trying to play both sides or something?

tbh i didn't read your whole message originally lol

[JokerOGkartPack]

separate ways should be free lol get ♥♥♥♥♥♥ capcom paypigs

[JokerOGkartPack]

capcom is rotten for this ♥♥♥♥

[Valk]

Originally posted by JokerOGkartPack:

separate ways should be free lol get ♥♥♥♥♥♥ capcom paypigs

No it shouldnt. It should have been more expensive to be quite honest. I'm not complaining about how cheap it is for what you get. The problem is capcom selling people literal cheats, and trying to implement new DRM that will make it harder for people to mod and/or cheat without spending money on paid cheats.