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MeltedLemonade has Resident Evil 4

Dec 18, 2023 @ 6:55pm

Ashley casual outfit

Do you guys think Ashley would wear this given the chance? I mean probably not cause shes not really emo but still.

https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=3117475007

Last edited by MeltedLemonade; Dec 21, 2023 @ 12:05am

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Soren

Dec 18, 2023 @ 7:01pm

A lot of people think that's a goth girl outfit. It's actually a scene girl thing. Scene girl was popular in the early 2000's. I don't think a rich college girl would wear scene girl fashion though. That seems more believeable if she were from a middle class family and not the president's daughter.

ChiefMendez has Resident Evil 4

Dec 18, 2023 @ 10:14pm

This outfit is a complete joke that doesn't go with anything within the game or the time period. Another important thing is it's plain ugly af.

Soren

Dec 18, 2023 @ 11:02pm

Originally posted by Cutt:
This outfit is a complete joke that doesn't go with anything within the game or the time period. Another important thing is it's plain ugly af.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scene_(subculture)

ChiefMendez has Resident Evil 4

Dec 18, 2023 @ 11:33pm

Originally posted by Soren:
Originally posted by Cutt:
This outfit is a complete joke that doesn't go with anything within the game or the time period. Another important thing is it's plain ugly af.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scene_(subculture)

I lived through it my guy, 2004-2005 were the emo years. The first album of Asking Alexandria was out in 2007 which kickstarted the scene, before that in 2006 was Count your Blessings by BMTH but that was pure deathcore and that had a different clothing style except for the skinny jeans.

Regardless of all of this, this particular outfit for Ashley in this particular game looks completely out of place and badly done. Popstar outfit in the original was much better and fit the game nicely.

Last edited by ChiefMendez; Dec 18, 2023 @ 11:35pm

Soren

Dec 18, 2023 @ 11:39pm

Originally posted by Cutt:
Originally posted by Soren:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scene_(subculture)
I lived through it my guy, 2004-2005 were the emo years. The first album of Asking Alexandria was out in 2007 which kickstarted the scene, before that in 2006 was Count your Blessings by BMTH but that was pure deathcore and that had a different clothing style except for the skinny jeans.

Regardless of all of this, this particular outfit for Ashley in this particular game looks completely out of place and badly done. Popstar outfit in the original was much better and fit the game nicely.

" Scene originated from the emo subculture in the early-2000s across the United States. The name began being used around 2002"

Also, the popstar outfit doesn't fit the original nicely at all. Worst costume of the game. Ashley didn't like Luis's "ballistics" line or being sexualised in general in the original. And yet she's got that as her alternative costume? The costume conflicts with the personality. I don't think the scene girl costume looks good, but at least it doesn't seem to conflict with Ashley's personality too badly.

ChiefMendez has Resident Evil 4

Dec 18, 2023 @ 11:49pm

Originally posted by Soren:
Originally posted by Cutt:
I lived through it my guy, 2004-2005 were the emo years. The first album of Asking Alexandria was out in 2007 which kickstarted the scene, before that in 2006 was Count your Blessings by BMTH but that was pure deathcore and that had a different clothing style except for the skinny jeans.

Regardless of all of this, this particular outfit for Ashley in this particular game looks completely out of place and badly done. Popstar outfit in the original was much better and fit the game nicely.
" Scene originated from the emo subculture in the early-2000s across the United States. The name began being used around 2002"

Also, the popstar outfit doesn't fit the original nicely at all. Worst costume of the game. Ashley didn't like Luis's "ballistics" line or being sexualised in general in the original. And yet she's got that as her alternative costume? The costume conflicts with the personality. I don't think the scene girl costume looks good, but at least it doesn't seem to conflict with Ashley's personality too badly.

LMAO what a reach. Literally any girl would take offense by being cat-called like that by a stranger, especially in life or death situation she was in. Doesn't mean she doesn't like sexy outfitst. Generally speaking many young appealing girls like appealing outfits, doesn't mean they like complete strangers catcalling and commenting their breasts.

Also, I told you this wikipedia "source" is bs, especially when it contradicts itself. I gave you examples of a biggest "scene" group that propelled that culture into mainstream, their first album was out in 2007. 2004-2005 (the re4 timeline) were still emo years.

Last edited by ChiefMendez; Dec 18, 2023 @ 11:49pm

Soren

Dec 19, 2023 @ 12:18am

Originally posted by Cutt:
LMAO what a reach. Literally any girl would take offense by being cat-called like that by a stranger, especially in life or death situation she was in. Doesn't mean she doesn't like sexy outfitst. Generally speaking many young appealing girls like appealing outfits, doesn't mean they like complete strangers catcalling and commenting their breasts.

Also, I told you this wikipedia "source" is bs, especially when it contradicts itself. I gave you examples of a biggest "scene" group that propelled that culture into mainstream, their first album was out in 2007. 2004-2005 (the re4 timeline) were still emo years.

There is literally documented proof of the word being to describe scene culture going back to 2002. People being called "scene queens" at the time and that being a bit derogatory. Scene becoming mainstream culture later isn't actually an argument. People were using the aesthetics before it became mainstream, that's how things become mainstream, enough people do it until you reach a large enough majority. You said it doesn't fit the time period, but now you're shifting to some weird practicality argument? Cause the only direction your argument seems to be heading down is that it was unlikely that Ashley could have been into scene before it was mainstream. Which is a widely different argument from "it wasn't in the time period".

Also, Ashley doesn't like being sexualised in other ways beyond Luis. Her skirt for example. Not to mention her personality type was timid lacking confidence, and is immature and childish at most times. Very popstar energy from her.

ChiefMendez has Resident Evil 4

Dec 19, 2023 @ 1:11am

You can't be real. Show me a girl that doesn't take offense when men try to look under their skirt. The overwhelming majority does. That doesn't mean they don't like being sexy and wearing appealing cloths. Something tells me you haven' talked to or seen a girl once.

Your argument that if a girl takes offense when you look under her skit and throw a line about her breasts being big then it must mean that she doesn't like wearing sexy and appealing cloths is absolute incel energy.

Scene as a music genre "birthing" in 2002 doesn't mean the average people that weren't part of bands themselves started to wear their cloths in 2002. I doubt you will find a single picture from 2002 with that outfit. Deathcore was born in the 80's, doesn't mean that it would be appropriate making a game set in 80s with BMTH-style deathcore blasting from the speakers and claiming it's time period-appropriate. The overwhelming majority of people in 2005 didn't have a clue wtf "scene" is, even with its biggest bands haven't even started making music yet.

And one more time, Wikipedia isn't an apropriate source you can use in debates and expect people to take you seriously.

Last edited by ChiefMendez; Dec 19, 2023 @ 1:36am