Resident Evil 4

Resident Evil 4

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Willy May 28, 2023 @ 12:50pm
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I love how horrible all of the boss fights are in these Modern RE-makes
Like Jesus Christ man. It feels like the developers wanted to add some sort of dedicated doge-roll button or some ♥♥♥♥ but just weren't allowed to because what the hell are you supposed to do for half of these fights? Slow ass, stumbly fumbly Leon can barely move out of the way of garbage being flung at him going mach ten. Every El-Higante fight is miserable. The first one is just a DPS test because you cannot dodge a single attack, and just have to empty your arsenal into him as fast as humanly possible before you run out of healing. And somehow they turned my favorite part of the original (Which was the 2-Gigante fight) into this awkward, unfair, ring-around-the-rosey garbage where the game highlights that big pool of lava in the center of the room and is like "LOOK! Just like the original!! Go dump one of them in the pit!!" And you get all excited because You're just about to finish the A prompt and dump BOTH into the pit at the same time until the cutscene plays and They have vanished and the pit drops and nothing happens, just for them to re-appear and Leon to say "Ugh! They moved!" What? What the ♥♥♥♥ are you talking about? They VANISHED. I'm assuming you have to stun one of them with a flashbang or a grenade or get the naked one to fall onto his knees for you to be able to drop them in the pit, but for a game with so much detail this blatant disregard for my inputs is baffling and leaves the sequence feeling incredibly sloppy. And this isn't mentioning how you just, cannot dodge an El-higante's attacks? You'll get to a point where you can't do anything but just run to the other side of the arena because you can't shoot him becasue he's too close to you, and then you hit the wall and he knocks 90% of your health away on Professional. And then you're even slower now if you didn't have any more healing items (You don't. You never will have anything. The game prioritizes giving you bolts over health in seemingly every room. I've never purchased the bolt gun it looks like trash.) It feels like the only way to possibly win these fights is by abusing the few awkward bits of geometry in the enviroment, to get them stuck during their charging attack animation, Which is fine if that was intended, (Which it wasn't.) Or if this was a game released in 2004, (Which it isn't.) Or by spam-crafting enough flashbangs a chapter in advance to pop all 8 or 9 of them in one fight. It's ridiculous and I never had these problems in the original. The only way I killed Chief Mendez was by abusing the I-frames you (SOMETIMES) have on ladders, because Leon just straight up does not move fast enough for you to acknowledge the attack that's coming, understand if it's the 1-throw-at-a-time or the double throw, and then dodge it accordingly. You just can't. I swear to god people complain about how the old game controls but I felt like a ninja in that one compared to this ♥♥♥♥. Shooting and moving be dammed, Leon does not give a ♥♥♥♥. He will not move in the face of danger, and the game will never give me the PRESS B TO DODGE!!! prompt when I truly need it. Just give me a dodge roll button.
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Seamus May 28, 2023 @ 1:45pm 
What is it with people and failing at paragraphs?
lucent May 28, 2023 @ 1:48pm 
They don't teach stuff like that in school anymore... hehehe
Willy May 28, 2023 @ 1:49pm 
Originally posted by Seamus:
What is it with people and failing at paragraphs?

Steam threads are annoying to paraphrase so I don't give a ♥♥♥♥. Get a migraine staring at my wall of text.
Seamus May 28, 2023 @ 1:52pm 
No thanks. I'll just continue not reading your wall of text.
Xengre May 28, 2023 @ 1:54pm 
OP, please... use proper line breaks in your mega-paragraph.

Most of your complaint is a skill issue if I'm being completely honest, though I do agree about the issue with the 2 Gigante fight being problematic design which quite an extensive number of design flaws (AI behavior around pit, ice sliding from pit when it is being opened depending on proximity to edge/center, lack of dodge when in some cases the steel gigante can actually run faster than you due to an odd bug or lack of ability do dodge its long combos depending on just where it is standing when it starts the combo if it pins you due to area design, etc.). Not all of its bosses are great. The lake boss is also quite hated due to its quirks.

However, it can also be said that these are often lesser quirks, overall, and usually you can trounce these bosses even on Professional aside from bad luck and in the off chance you do have bad luck you can just redo the fight. If you are worried about being set back far on your pro S+ run simply reserve a save for a boss you feel isn't consistent or well done like the lake boss or double gigante and you certainly have enough saves to do so tbh. It doesn't excuse the obvious shortcomings where the developer couldn't be arsed to do a better job, but many of the other bosses are at least decent like the village chief.
Xengre May 28, 2023 @ 2:14pm 
They aren't bullet sponges. Stop using a pistol on them. All of the bosses except Lake boss can be beaten in sub 20 seconds on professional NG no special weapons. C'mon... You are blaming the game for your bad choices just like your stubborn behavior with line breaks.

Further, aside from Ramon and the lake boss none of the other bosses are typically "undodgeable" (granted I've seen the final boss glitch out with its jumping breaking an entire save once but only once) and like I said aside from quirky occasional behavior they usually are easy enough and offer enough room for recovery to succeed reliably.

Like I said earlier. If you feel a boss isn't consistent enough SAVE before it. I get it you are mad and currently raging over having a speed run set you back several hours because you failed to save at the double gigante boss. Sucks, sure, but now you know you should be more careful about your saves and it wont happen again unless you do something like this again.

Yes, the Del Lago lake fight is pretty stupid. Agreed.
Last edited by Xengre; May 28, 2023 @ 2:15pm
Jalir May 28, 2023 @ 2:29pm 
Filtered hard.
Crunchy[Daz] May 28, 2023 @ 3:35pm 
Originally posted by Willy:
Originally posted by Seamus:
What is it with people and failing at paragraphs?

Steam threads are annoying to paraphrase so I don't give a ♥♥♥♥. Get a migraine staring at my wall of text.

Um thats not how that works. People will just ignore it, judge your intelligence level because of it then make fun of you. Besides, they don't need to read most of it. Its clear after the first few sentences that you're just not good at the game. Literally get good, thats basically it.
party pooper May 28, 2023 @ 3:56pm 
have you tried being better at the game? that usually works for me.:ujel:
Han Daimond May 28, 2023 @ 7:44pm 
Improve your composition writing instead.
mons May 28, 2023 @ 8:08pm 
Some people should learn how to write instead of playing video games.
Salfaden May 28, 2023 @ 9:41pm 
Skill issue tbh
lackesis May 28, 2023 @ 11:30pm 
Skill issue, you can knife almost every bosses in this game.
Last edited by lackesis; May 28, 2023 @ 11:32pm
76561198177043055 May 29, 2023 @ 4:26am 
Only judging from the title, because I refuse to read a wall of text, especially one without paragraphs lmao, and I conclude it's just a skill issue, and having skill issues makes any argument you make being automatically rejected and invalid.
Lost Drunk May 29, 2023 @ 9:37am 
Bad design on general by developers. Modern games no need to have a better combat/level design since speedrunners still here to avoid the problems so this generate some marketing and videos along for players keep playing and make a fake feeling about playtime.
Some parts even in standard difficult need mostly tricks and abuse the level design/mechanics to advance. The new games are not more about learn the basics and have a intuitive gameplay so instead is to be about use "meta" strategies/weapons, doing the same playstyle like was a competitve PvP game.
These games are look more tryhard than fun. The competitive scenario and soulslike games are ruining the experience for players that just want to play a fun and good single player game.
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Date Posted: May 28, 2023 @ 12:50pm
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