Sentinel 9 vs Punisher on Professional

[Turkwise]

Which is better? I used the Red9 like usual on my hardcore playthrough until I realized that its kind of ass in the remake so I switched to the Blacktail and it was pretty good. In professional though I think a pistol with a laser sight is going to be way more important for staggering enemies but I cant decide on which to go with. Is the penetration on the punisher better than the crit rate exclusive for the SG/Sentinel? I heard the crit upgrade got nerfed hard.

[MonkeyBone]

Default Pistol maxed is the best handgun. I'm quite annoyed they nerfed Red 9 into the ground.

[Dread Arkive]

Isn't Red 9 the best once you get the stock?

[Turkwise]

Originally posted by MonkeyBone:

Default Pistol maxed is the best handgun. I'm quite annoyed they nerfed Red 9 into the ground.

Sentinel has a higher firerate than the SG and holds ♥♥♥♥ load more ammo but only loses a bit of damage, seems better to me. Im honestly okay with the Red9 being worse because it means that other pistols are actually worth using. In the original it was either that or just holding off until you can max out your starting handgun.

Originally posted by Dread Arkive:

Isn't Red 9 the best once you get the stock?

It's got really ♥♥♥♥♥♥ dps compared to other pistols because the fire rate is so low, which matters a lot because you usually cant stagger enemies in one shot anymore.

[Hanzo]

Originally posted by Turkwise:

Which is better? I used the Red9 like usual on my hardcore playthrough until I realized that its kind of ass in the remake so I switched to the Blacktail and it was pretty good. In professional though I think a pistol with a laser sight is going to be way more important for staggering enemies but I cant decide on which to go with. Is the penetration on the punisher better than the crit rate exclusive for the SG/Sentinel? I heard the crit upgrade got nerfed hard.

I would probably have 2 pistols at this point. Punisher maxed for damage and S9 for x5 crit rate, but it would probably suck to switch sigth every time. If it NG+, then probably some piercing SMG would be better than punisher.

[ggAkatsukiP]

I'm at chapter 3 fish farm now on new game run professional, let me tell you :
I use 1.1 firepower Sentinel Nine and it takes 4 shots to stagger a ganado for a melee follow up. You best make your decision on which pistol to ramp up firepower as soon as possible, be it Red9 or Sentinel Nine. (On pro you are allow to ramp up upgrade straight pass Lv3). Its going to be 2.7fp for Red9 or 1.9fp Sentinel Nine. Make your choice mate. Don't tell me bullshet about exclusive because its not realistic to even talk about acquiring it so soon still in village.

[Turkwise]

Originally posted by ggAkatsukiP:

I'm at chapter 3 fish farm now on new game run professional, let me tell you :
I use 1.1 firepower Sentinel Nine and it takes 4 shots to stagger a ganado for a melee follow up. You best make your decision on which pistol to ramp up firepower as soon as possible, be it Red9 or Sentinel Nine. (On pro you are allow to ramp up upgrade straight pass Lv3). Its going to be 2.7fp for Red9 or 1.9fp Sentinel Nine. Make your choice mate. Don't tell me bullshet about exclusive because its not realistic to even talk about acquiring it so soon still in village.

Im more focused on getting the laser sight, it basically makes it so every shot is treated as if you let the crosshair close in completely, makes it stagger a lot more. The Red9 is getting traded in for pesetas instantly.

[Malecite]

Sentinel 9 with laser is the most consistent The laser gives you fully tightened crosshairs which adds crit damage and chance apparently, also removes all spread for the gun. Crit hits also prevent plagas spawns which is hugely useful.

Red 9 has bad accuracy, takes up tons of space, and isn't what it used to be damage wise, with the upgrade it maxes out at 4.

[thefollowingcharacters]

I went through hardcore with the Red9 and it was VERY good. Never had to worry about pistol ammo. Now you will need to move a little more and space yourself appropriately because your overall dps is lower. But your damage per bullet is consistently high. A fully upgraded Red9 kills the flying bugs in two hits.

[Toshio]

Finished Prof for S+ yeasterday. Any pistol should work, cos you mostly never use it. Focus on shotguns.

Originally posted by Turkwise:

I heard the crit upgrade got nerfed hard.

No, it isn't, but there is not much enemies, that can be crit easy later on. And it works strange on bosses. I prefered DLC gun, cos of it's big mag. But for full run anyway there were only like 40? 50? pistol kills.

[Turkwise]

Originally posted by thefollowingcharacters:

I went through hardcore with the Red9 and it was VERY good. Never had to worry about pistol ammo. Now you will need to move a little more and space yourself appropriately because your overall dps is lower. But your damage per bullet is consistently high. A fully upgraded Red9 kills the flying bugs in two hits.

Blacktail kills them in two shots too except it does it twice as fast lmao. Red9 sucks ass now.

[Erverzs]

blacktail is the best because of it's power, rate of fire and max stats.

[*D4rKsKy*]

Red 9 is still the best pistol in the game @ op. Specially on pro mode.

[Harris]

Depends on what kind of Professional you're doing.

If it's the one where you can't use bonus weapons as you're going for Handcannon - then you don't really need an Exclusive Ticket so you can get laser sight instead.

I found the starter pistol works best because of crit chance. I mean, on Professional enemies are sponges and pistols are garbage as a result. But since it takes you 4 headshots to off an enemy on Professional, you'll see crits much more often statistically. It will also help a bit with saving ammo. Oh and it pairs well with Wolf Tail - if you didn't crit then you likely opened him for melee at some point.

If it's Professional S+ then you want an Exclusive Ticket to get infinite ammo on Handcannon or at least Chicago as soon as you reach the castle. Meaning you won't be getting the laser sight, and without it you'll be waiting for the reticle to close forever. In this case I'd go for Red9 with firepower upgrades and just shoot center of mass. It also helps that during the cabin siege your pistol ammo is essentially infinite thanks to Luis.

Punisher is pretty cool and the recoil is low, very balanced, however situations where you can lineup a bunch of enemies are not too common. Piercing shields is useful during castle, but at the island shields become metal ones, so.

Originally posted by Turkwise:

Blacktail kills them in two shots too except it does it twice as fast lmao. Red9 sucks ass now.

Even SG09 kills them in two shots tbh.

Another matter is pistols use S resource, limiting what you could potentially use for shotguns and even magnums.

[NeverNervous]

Red 9 fully upgraded along with upgraded butterfly is making Pro a joke for at least Act 1

[thefollowingcharacters]

Originally posted by Turkwise:

Originally posted by thefollowingcharacters:

I went through hardcore with the Red9 and it was VERY good. Never had to worry about pistol ammo. Now you will need to move a little more and space yourself appropriately because your overall dps is lower. But your damage per bullet is consistently high. A fully upgraded Red9 kills the flying bugs in two hits.

Blacktail kills them in two shots too except it does it twice as fast lmao. Red9 sucks ass now.

Sure, but then I would have to buy and max upgrade another hand gun. Instead I spend my money on upgrading the damage of all my other guns to max. This is on hardcore, so money is premium. Arguably the black tail is better, but for me its not that much better to justify the cost.