Lack of a remake for the original RE game

[Team Kill]

So, did everyone see Re2 remake and go "wow this is amazing" and forget that the first Resident Evil game still has no remake? That is the reason that the zombies even existed and they still did not remake it? The original game was so bad with the cameras, so remaking it only makes sense but I guess the developers do not care about showing the start of the virus.

*NOTE:
Before going here and saying "they already made a remake" please consider looking up the difference between a remake or a remaster OR just look at this Re4 and then look at the old one
Remake - An overhaul of the entire game and changing the story but keeping all of the core elements from the original
Remaster - Making the graphics of everything look better (hence why the version everyone calls a remake is just an HD remaster)

[Nikki]

โพสต์ดั้งเดิมโดย Team Kill:

โพสต์ดั้งเดิมโดย Red:

100%.

Even though the marketing stated they were remasters, they were completely underselling the amount of effort that was put into completely rebuilding those games from scratch. The differences between those and the originals they were based on are instantly obvious to me and go way beyond simply remastering them.

I still believe that RE is due for a remake that gets it on the new engine and allows for fully 4k heavily detailed environments and getting the story more in line with what we have now. I was extremely impressed with Re4's remake and the fact that they changed the gameplay enough so that it felt new and good for once (since Re4's mechanics sucked), I have high hopes for what they could do with the original game, especially considering how most of that game is inside and they could easily make the building much larger than how it is now.

I feel like if we do see a more modern take on Resident Evil 1 it would likely come alongside RE:0 in a way that bunches their stories together. I also would not be surprised if they opted to make it similar to RE7/Village and go first-person since it's quite claustrophobic environments. But given their current trajectory I think we could expect Code Veronica or RE5 next and not a modern RE Engine remake of the originals any time soon.

[Team Kill]

โพสต์ดั้งเดิมโดย Uzi Master:

โพสต์ดั้งเดิมโดย Team Kill:

I don't think I have once said that this game wasn't a remake. If you actually took a second and read, you would see that I said a remake is changing the entire game and keeping the core. Have you not played this game or any of the other remakes for RE? They changed everything but the core. Not only is this one longer, but the events and locations got changed and the story itself was relatively changed enough though the whole goal is the same.

Your definition of a remake is nonsense in the first place.

But the point is, by your own supposed standards, RE4 remake isn't a remake. Because it has the same basic map, same enemies, same story, same dialogue, same basic combat. The level of difference is quite similar to the difference between RE1 and it's remake. Every argument you make for RE1 not being a remake applies to RE4.

New enemies, new map, new story, new dialogue and removed old ones, new combat with different mechanics. It seems like you have yet to play this remake because, if you think that none of that has changed, you are insane. Have you not played the original Re4, This remake is much longer due to the map changes and the addition of new areas and they redesigned the characters with different movement as well as adding different versions of the infected wolf and a new character with a bull head or whatever he has on him. This is a remake, and the fact that you think nothing has changed makes me think you are either a little kid or someone who never played this game and just wants a say in what a remake is.

[Brunoncio]

Ok your concept Is really wrong, please Born again

[Team Kill]

โพสต์ดั้งเดิมโดย Nikki:

โพสต์ดั้งเดิมโดย Team Kill:

I still believe that RE is due for a remake that gets it on the new engine and allows for fully 4k heavily detailed environments and getting the story more in line with what we have now. I was extremely impressed with Re4's remake and the fact that they changed the gameplay enough so that it felt new and good for once (since Re4's mechanics sucked), I have high hopes for what they could do with the original game, especially considering how most of that game is inside and they could easily make the building much larger than how it is now.

I feel like if we do see a more modern take on Resident Evil 1 it would likely come alongside RE:0 in a way that bunches their stories together. I also would not be surprised if they opted to make it similar to RE7/Village and go first-person since it's quite claustrophobic environments. But given their current trajectory I think we could expect Code Veronica or RE5 next and not a modern RE Engine remake of the originals any time soon.

I think they should just remake Operation Raccoon city and then remake the first RE and combine it with 0 like you said. Operation Raccoon city is one of the first RE games to allow you to play with friends aside from the old arcade versions with the plastic orange and purple guns that were always broken. Also, you cannot buy Operation Raccoon city anymore, so it needs something done to it.

[BimboGooch]

โพสต์ดั้งเดิมโดย Nikki:

You do realize that the version of Resident Evil (One) on Steam is a remake, right?

Thats a remaster :^)
Unless it was remade like two decades ago, then another two decades later released on steam.
HD versions are not remakes,
Remakes are well just that, remakes.
remasters are re skins pretty much.

[InstableMonster]

โพสต์ดั้งเดิมโดย Team Kill:

โพสต์ดั้งเดิมโดย Uzi Master:

Your definition of a remake is nonsense in the first place.

But the point is, by your own supposed standards, RE4 remake isn't a remake. Because it has the same basic map, same enemies, same story, same dialogue, same basic combat. The level of difference is quite similar to the difference between RE1 and it's remake. Every argument you make for RE1 not being a remake applies to RE4.

New enemies, new map, new story, new dialogue and removed old ones, new combat with different mechanics. It seems like you have yet to play this remake because, if you think that none of that has changed, you are insane. Have you not played the original Re4, This remake is much longer due to the map changes and the addition of new areas and they redesigned the characters with different movement as well as adding different versions of the infected wolf and a new character with a bull head or whatever he has on him. This is a remake, and the fact that you think nothing has changed makes me think you are either a little kid or someone who never played this game and just wants a say in what a remake is.

You didnt read his comment did you? He said all that changed in the re4 remake and that it was also changed in the re1 remake, thus making it that if you argue that re1 remake isnt a remake then if your logic was consistent then you would be calling this game re4 remaster and not re4 remake.

Read before answering and make sure you understand...

[Uzi Master]

โพสต์ดั้งเดิมโดย Team Kill:

New enemies, new map, new story, new dialogue and removed old ones, new combat with different mechanics. It seems like you have yet to play this remake because, if you think that none of that has changed, you are insane. Have you not played the original Re4, This remake is much longer due to the map changes and the addition of new areas and they redesigned the characters with different movement as well as adding different versions of the infected wolf and a new character with a bull head or whatever he has on him. This is a remake, and the fact that you think nothing has changed makes me think you are either a little kid or someone who never played this game and just wants a say in what a remake is.

And I repeat, literally all of that applies to RE1 and it's remake.

You ask me if I've played both version of RE4. I seriously doubt you've played both version of RE1.

[Team Kill]

โพสต์ดั้งเดิมโดย Justinyl:

No point remaking the original game. Its way too short for any content for the price of $70 - 80. Even capcom know they can't milk it for that amount.

A remake adds more content, so idk if you don't want to give capcom credit or you just think remakes don't add much of anything. Either way, you are wrong and capcom is actually a great company when it comes to remakes. They always add more and make sure it is worth the price they sell it for.

[Nikki]

โพสต์ดั้งเดิมโดย BimboGooch:

โพสต์ดั้งเดิมโดย Nikki:

You do realize that the version of Resident Evil (One) on Steam is a remake, right?

Thats a remaster :^)
Unless it was remade like two decades ago, then another two decades later released on steam.
HD versions are not remakes,
Remakes are well just that, remakes.
remasters are re skins pretty much.

I mean, it actually was remade two decades ago as of last year. The original released in 1996 on the PSOne and was remade in 2002 for the Gamecube from the ground up. That was then ported in an HD Remaster to Steam and last generation consoles.

[Uzi Master]

โพสต์ดั้งเดิมโดย Team Kill:

A remake adds more content, so idk if you don't want to give capcom credit or you just think remakes don't add much of anything. Either way, you are wrong and capcom is actually a great company when it comes to remakes. They always add more and make sure it is worth the price they sell it for.

Well by this logic now you can argue RE3 wasn't a remake because it was shorter than the original... Different yes, but much shorter. Anyone who played the original would know.

[Sifer2]

โพสต์ดั้งเดิมโดย Draescan:

That remake was also widely ignored by most of the world much to the horror of the creator as it is his favorite RE game on top of being his personal favorite remake.

Ignored? For the longest time RE1 remake had the reputation of being the best videogame remake ever made. The gold standard of how to remake a game. It's true it didn't sell that well. Mostly because they put it exclusively on the Gamecube. One of the more poorly selling Nintendo consoles. Hardly a good place for the RE series. Then when RE4 was a smash hit they ported it to playstation against the creators wishes. And RE1 remake, and Zero were mostly forgotten by the wider casual gamer audience but very well known among actual RE fans.

In any case the RE1 Remake is as much of a remake of that game as this current RE4 remake is of it's original. The age old "but the controls are bad" argument will never go away but if you really want to play a great version of RE1 it already exists. Unlike the modern remakes it also cut nothing out only added new content.

[Team Kill]

โพสต์ดั้งเดิมโดย Uzi Master:

โพสต์ดั้งเดิมโดย Team Kill:

New enemies, new map, new story, new dialogue and removed old ones, new combat with different mechanics. It seems like you have yet to play this remake because, if you think that none of that has changed, you are insane. Have you not played the original Re4, This remake is much longer due to the map changes and the addition of new areas and they redesigned the characters with different movement as well as adding different versions of the infected wolf and a new character with a bull head or whatever he has on him. This is a remake, and the fact that you think nothing has changed makes me think you are either a little kid or someone who never played this game and just wants a say in what a remake is.

And I repeat, literally all of that applies to RE1 and it's remake.

You ask me if I've played both version of RE4. I seriously doubt you've played both version of RE1.

Maybe read other people's view like Red. He said they changed assets and some minor changes to the story. Changing the assets or the game engine while keeping the original story (and adding some minor things like a new character in the story or a couple new areas) are not a remake to me, and that is a personal opinion much like how you can say that is is a remake because they built the game from scratch. If you really think it is a remake, okay ig. I do not really care if you think that adding a bit and changing the graphics means it should be worth the same price as a brand new game, but I do not. If you think I am wrong for that, oh well. That is how life is and sometimes people can disagree with you, but you have to get over it.

[Team Kill]

โพสต์ดั้งเดิมโดย Uzi Master:

โพสต์ดั้งเดิมโดย Team Kill:

A remake adds more content, so idk if you don't want to give capcom credit or you just think remakes don't add much of anything. Either way, you are wrong and capcom is actually a great company when it comes to remakes. They always add more and make sure it is worth the price they sell it for.

Well by this logic now you can argue RE3 wasn't a remake because it was shorter than the original... Different yes, but much shorter. Anyone who played the original would know.

No remake is perfect. They might have taken away enough content that it would end up being shorter, but they still added new content. Re3 is the only resident evil game that I never played and I can't even say I played the remake because the playthrough I watched just looked bad. I don't like anything about it. Still a remake even if it is shorter.

[InstableMonster]

โพสต์ดั้งเดิมโดย Team Kill:

โพสต์ดั้งเดิมโดย Uzi Master:

And I repeat, literally all of that applies to RE1 and it's remake.

You ask me if I've played both version of RE4. I seriously doubt you've played both version of RE1.

Maybe read other people's view like Red. He said they changed assets and some minor changes to the story. Changing the assets or the game engine while keeping the original story (and adding some minor things like a new character in the story or a couple new areas) are not a remake to me, and that is a personal opinion much like how you can say that is is a remake because they built the game from scratch. If you really think it is a remake, okay ig. I do not really care if you think that adding a bit and changing the graphics means it should be worth the same price as a brand new game, but I do not. If you think I am wrong for that, oh well. That is how life is and sometimes people can disagree with you, but you have to get over it.

Something qualifying as a remake is not a matter of opinion...

[Vinnolo]

to be clear:
Remaster: same source code, adds some QoL stuff and ups the graphics, nothing else.
Remake: all assets are made from scratch and has nothing from the og source code.

It doesnt matter what the game has or how similar the remake is to the original game, If the game was made from scratch, its a remake, the "remaster" of resident evil 1 is called that because the remake was made in 2002 i think, then they remastered the remake later on and released it here on steam.