Punisher vs Red 9

[Mistr James]

Which would y'all say is better?
Also, where do I find SMG ammo?

Edit: I should've said that I have my Punisher nearly fully upgraded and I'm just now hearing about how people talk about the Red 9.

[Kitt 🌟 Stargazer]

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Publicado originalmente por Kitt 🌟 Stargazer:

Punisher benefits fighting groups and against enemies who use shields. Hitting multiple targets at once can mean killing more enemies with fewer shots.

Red9 is better at dealing with single targets, and the accessory makes it easier to steady your aim for longer distance shots I believe. I'd say it's better for boss fights over all.

Punisher will probably be more ammo efficient in the long run though.

if you are using your pistol at a boss then you where not stingy enough with your ammo most bosses get the shotgun and rifle treatment with the slim chance of a grenade and magnum massage

Depends on the boss I'm facing really. Some I just prefer using the Pistol and TMP on.

[*D4rKsKy*]

Red 9 if u playing with mouse and keybord. Aiming ftw.

[(Un)Common Raida]

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Publicado originalmente por Scrungurus:

you're not using it right then, the stagger per shot is insane

jea but the accuracy is complett garbage i prefer my shoots to hit and not fly all over it`s the same with the Assault rifle but the main problem with it is that it is full auto and you can`t change the shooting mode and if you even push the your button for longe then 0.1 second you lose 2 bullets

aim better and learn to tap fire, you're just bad

[Hanzo]

Publicado originalmente por Mistr James:

Which would y'all say is better?
Also, where do I find SMG ammo?

Edit: I should've said that I have my Punisher nearly fully upgraded and I'm just now hearing about how people talk about the Red 9.

I go with Punisher because of few reasons
1. Laser sight
2. Piercing. I like to hide in narrow ways and shoot through several enemies/shields

If you consider Red9 check blacktail
Power/Capacity/Reload/Shooting
Punisher 1.9/24/1.5/1.91
Red9 2.7(x1.5 exclusive)/16/1.25/1.26
Blacktail 2.4(x1.5 exlusive)/13/1.6/2.2

[PinkPanther]

Punisher all the way, for ammo saving. There are so many situations in which I profit from having the penetration. I even consider upgrading to to 5 pen, but for now I want the DMG of the revolver and shotty on max.

[TyresTyco]

In practice. Enemies rarely line up. I gave up on the punisher after my first playthrough seeing how I have to manipulate the majority of encounters for it to be useful.. and in these situations where enemies all line up.. the LG 5 is superior.

Give the Sentinel Nine a try. The crit+laser is so awesome.. it's imho a tad bit better than the red9 for headshots.

[Moogal™]

Publicado originalmente por Mistr James:

Which would y'all say is better?
Also, where do I find SMG ammo?

Edit: I should've said that I have my Punisher nearly fully upgraded and I'm just now hearing about how people talk about the Red 9.

In OG Red9 by far. In this, Red9 is still pretty kick ass if you know how to aim. Punisher remains to be tested by me.

[iKyriousi]

The Silver Ghost has the highest critical damage.

[Platapoop]

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jea but the accuracy is complett garbage i prefer my shoots to hit and not fly all over it`s the same with the Assault rifle but the main problem with it is that it is full auto and you can`t change the shooting mode and if you even push the your button for longe then 0.1 second you lose 2 bullets

aim better and learn to tap fire, you're just bad

Nah, SMGs are a waste of space. I bought the TMP and upgraded it. Basically never used it because every other gun type does something better than the TMP. If I had to choose between the bolt thrower or SMGs, I would pick the bolt thrower.

[Kitt 🌟 Stargazer]

Publicado originalmente por Platapoop:

Publicado originalmente por Scrungurus:

aim better and learn to tap fire, you're just bad

Nah, SMGs are a waste of space. I bought the TMP and upgraded it. Basically never used it because every other gun type does something better than the TMP. If I had to choose between the bolt thrower or SMGs, I would pick the bolt thrower.

I use the SMG as an alternative to the Pistol because you get ammo is quantities of 30, and if you get the bonus you get 45. It also is decent at crowd control if your out of shotgun ammo. Can easily stun and melee/stab enemies too with it too like the Pistols to conserve ammo.

I get a lot of use out of the SMG in both the original game and this one.

[ggAkatsukiP]

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Publicado originalmente por Kitt 🌟 Stargazer:

Punisher benefits fighting groups and against enemies who use shields. Hitting multiple targets at once can mean killing more enemies with fewer shots.

Red9 is better at dealing with single targets, and the accessory makes it easier to steady your aim for longer distance shots I believe. I'd say it's better for boss fights over all.

Punisher will probably be more ammo efficient in the long run though.

if you are using your pistol at a boss then you where not stingy enough with your ammo most bosses get the shotgun and rifle treatment with the slim chance of a grenade and magnum massage

I mag dump my Matilda at Salazar and its candy from a baby, Pistol is okay not terrible choice of weapon at boss.

[Atty]

Red9 is probably the worst handgun in the game due to a terribly slow rate of fire and taking too much space with the stock AND can't use laser sight. The starter handgun is the best one because it can use laser sight and with the exclusive 5x crit modifier it will outdps all other handguns.

[Azathoth]

Publicado originalmente por zerogear5:

you have to craft smg ammo you wont find it(at least that is what people are saying). red9 is objectively better for one reason rifles already have the major perk of the punisher which is penetration. Only time punisher makes sense is if you want fast head shots on shield enemies.

You can find smg ammo after the tmp gets unlocked

[Izzy]

I feel like you could play this game by just keeping 4-5 different handgun variants and not using any other weapon type.

[mickeymickred81]

Publicado originalmente por Black RX:

Publicado originalmente por Troja:

smg ammo is pretty rare and they are absolute trash in this game XD

you're not using it right then, the stagger per shot is insane

Agreed! Your not using it right then. TMP for me personally was better than most pistols as you can take shot to make it like a Pistol and you get WAY more ammo for it. And the ammo wasn't rare for me. Once I bought TMP I got ammo all the time I have over 500 at some points, but then I'd be low on pistol ammo.