Resident Evil 4
What's the best thing to use exclusive upgrade ticket on?
I just arrived in chapter 7. I wanna know whats the best thing to use it on
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Most likely your preferred revolver. Someone else further in feel free to chime in.
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Most likely your preferred revolver. Someone else further in feel free to chime in.


Which is better Killer 7 or broken butterfly
Broken Butterfly, Bolt Action rifle, or the Red9.

Broken Butterfly is a boss killer.... like flat out it will mess up most bosses pretty fast with its exclusive upgrade and it is INSANELY expensive to fully upgrade, with the ticket you can just upgrade the damage and thats it cause you'll only ever use it on bosses or very tough encounters.

Red9, or blacktail if you prefer, are the overall workhorses and with Red9 you get 1.5x extra damage so regular guys barely are a problem anymore.

Bolt Action rifle you get a x2 also and it is used for things like bosses, giants, chainsaw people, anything kinda big that isn't a 'boss' 'boss'.

These are just my suggestions your pistols you're going to want to fully upgrade anyway and the rifle and the broken butterfly are what you should be seriously considering.
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Most likely your preferred revolver. Someone else further in feel free to chime in.


Which is better Killer 7 or broken butterfly

A lot of people will just say whatever you want but Broken Butterfly's damage far exceeds the Killer 7. Yeah, it is very slow to fire and reload but the damage is just so far beyond the killer 7, you'll end up wasting 3 shots to do what the broken can do in 1.
Отредактировано (N☆G) Jackal ★JJ★; 25 мар. 2023 г. в 0:45
I already have the Red9, Stingray, and riot gun. If I get the Broken Butterfly should I get rid of one gun or keep all 4?
Why the bolt action rifle over the semi auto or the assault rifle ?
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I already have the Red9, Stingray, and riot gun. If I get the Broken Butterfly should I get rid of one gun or keep all 4?

For me, personally, I just store the broken butterfly.
Every hard part has a checkpoint where you can either pull from the typewriter or turn around and go grab it.

All you'd need to really do with the broken is have it in your inventory for those fights and for upgrading it's damage when you aren't doing that just store it away.
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Why the bolt action rifle over the semi auto or the assault rifle ?

Overall damage output using the least amount of ammo.
Stingray isn't a bad choice but if you need a boss killer aside from one of the magnums, the bolt action is that.
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I already have the Red9, Stingray, and riot gun. If I get the Broken Butterfly should I get rid of one gun or keep all 4?
Store the Magnum for bosses only, and only bosses you get stuck on or consider remotely hard. Magnum ammo will likely be crazy rare in the remake like the original and, literally, every RE game so you only get a few shots per entire playthrough. Usually saving it for final boss or something. Note, there is a rocket launcher too... Great option for harder bosses. I believe the Broken Butterfly was considered the best in the original, too. Most guns seem to have kept their fit role in terms of tier except the Red 9 dropped to bottom from already low (its now below punisher).

I disagree about Red 9. Handgun/Sentinel 9 are clearly far better and Red 9 is worst pistol in remake, but its popular because it appears to have higher dmg but its not that simple and in terms of ammo economy it loses to Handun/Sentinel 9's crit (or fact they come upgraded by that point with comparable dmg already for a while and continue to always outscale the Red 9, especially on harder difficulties).

Riot Gun and Stingray are good to carry in general with your pistol though and you acn always swap one out for unupgraded SMG temporarily if you've looted a lot of SMG ammo you want to blow to save real ammo.
I kind of have to argue the ability to fire more than one shot while scoped makes the sting ray a bit more valuable, especially against bosses who only expose their weakpoint for a short period of time, but that's personal taste.

As an argument for the Killer 7, it has less damage but it has a laser sight so you can actually hit stuff at any range, but since you want the most bang for your buck with the magnum ammo being limited, the broken butterfly has you covered there.
Отредактировано Cat; 25 мар. 2023 г. в 0:55
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I kind of have to argue the ability to fire more than one shot while scoped makes the sting ray a bit more valuable, especially against bosses who only expose their weakpoint for a short period of time, but that's personal taste.

Well, like I said it isn't a bad choice but damage per bullet, you'd have to fire a fully upgraded stringray 3 times to do the same damage 1 shot of a fully upgraded bolt action does.

To me, ammo is always above all and whatever takes the least amount of shots is the winner.
If you are a good shot, you'll outdps the stingray's fire rate.
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I already have the Red9, Stingray, and riot gun. If I get the Broken Butterfly should I get rid of one gun or keep all 4?
Store the Magnum for bosses only, and only bosses you get stuck on or consider remotely hard. Magnum ammo will likely be crazy rare in the remake like the original and, literally, every RE game so you only get a few shots per entire playthrough. Usually saving it for final boss or something. Note, there is a rocket launcher too... Great option for harder bosses. I believe the Broken Butterfly was considered the best in the original, too. Most guns seem to have kept their fit role in terms of tier except the Red 9 dropped to bottom from already low (its now below punisher).

I disagree about Red 9. Handgun/Sentinel 9 are clearly far better and Red 9 is worst pistol in remake, but its popular because it appears to have higher dmg but its not that simple and in terms of ammo economy it loses to Handun/Sentinel 9's crit (or fact they come upgraded by that point with comparable dmg already for a while and continue to always outscale the Red 9, especially on harder difficulties).

Riot Gun and Stingray are good to carry in general with your pistol though and you acn always swap one out for unupgraded SMG temporarily if you've looted a lot of SMG ammo you want to blow to save real ammo.

What are you on about? RED 9 was the gun in the original. There was so much ammo in the game that "ammo economy" doesn't mean anything. What did mean something was money to upgrade and you'd be just wasting money upgrading the weaker pistols. Gamecube version was the only one where RED9 wasn't that great because it did less damage.

In the original Butterfly actually the worse weapon because the damage difference without the final upgrade over Killer 7 wasn't that big and the final upgrade came so late in the game that it was useless. It was also significantly more expensive to upgrade, which was the real issue.

You could get the final upgrade of broken butterfly at Krauser. Which was a boss fight you didn't need a magnum for anyway. And the next thing would be the final boss which again is not a fight that benefits from the increased firepower due to how the mechanics works. So you got the insane damage upgrade right at the end game for bosses that have mechanics that make the upgrade pointless. K7 was the better power weapon for NG
Отредактировано Peelsepuuppi; 25 мар. 2023 г. в 2:00
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Store the Magnum for bosses only, and only bosses you get stuck on or consider remotely hard. Magnum ammo will likely be crazy rare in the remake like the original and, literally, every RE game so you only get a few shots per entire playthrough. Usually saving it for final boss or something. Note, there is a rocket launcher too... Great option for harder bosses. I believe the Broken Butterfly was considered the best in the original, too. Most guns seem to have kept their fit role in terms of tier except the Red 9 dropped to bottom from already low (its now below punisher).

I disagree about Red 9. Handgun/Sentinel 9 are clearly far better and Red 9 is worst pistol in remake, but its popular because it appears to have higher dmg but its not that simple and in terms of ammo economy it loses to Handun/Sentinel 9's crit (or fact they come upgraded by that point with comparable dmg already for a while and continue to always outscale the Red 9, especially on harder difficulties).

Riot Gun and Stingray are good to carry in general with your pistol though and you acn always swap one out for unupgraded SMG temporarily if you've looted a lot of SMG ammo you want to blow to save real ammo.

What are you on about? RED 9 was the gun in the original. There was so much ammo in the game that "ammo economy" doesn't mean anything. What did mean something was money to upgrade and you'd be just wasting money upgrading the weaker pistols. Gamecube version was the only one where RED9 wasn't that great because it did less damage.

In the original Butterfly actually the worse weapon because the damage difference without the final upgrade over Killer 7 wasn't that big and the final upgrade came so late in the game that it was useless. It was also significantly more expensive to upgrade, which was the real issue.

You could get the final upgrade of broken butterfly at Krauser. Which was a boss fight you didn't need a magnum for anyway. And the next thing would be the final boss which again is not a fight that benefits from the increased firepower due to how the mechanics works. So you got the insane damage upgrade right at the end game for bosses that have mechanics that make the upgrade pointless. K7 was the better power weapon for NG
This is completely incorrect.

The Handgun is the BEST pistol and one of the BEST guns in the entire original game. The 5x Crit multiplier special also applies on melee attacks (roundhouse kicks, suplex, knife attacks), but even ignoring that using it purely for shooting it simply outperforms the Red 9. The Red 9's popularity in the OG and Remake come strictly from tunnel vision on its higher attack value (only about double in the Remake resulting in a straight nerf and no laser sight).

The Red 9 takes a lot more space, costs significantly more to upgrade, is gotten later, delays early game combat performance saving money in OG. In Remake btw the dmg is only 4.05 making it roughly double that of the Handgun / Sentinel 9 while in the original its dmg was 5 / 6.5 (depending on port version) and thus significantly nerfed from the original game. Further, this game has the targeting reticle for boosted crit shots and accuracy. The laser with the Handgun / Sentinel 9 completely removes this giving pinpoint instantly 100% accurate shots while the Red 9 cannot use this. Meanwhile, the Red 9 in the OG has around 5~10% crit rate while the Handgun was estimated around 25~50%. When you're dealing with enemies that take 3-5 shots on Professional plus potentially spawn Las Plaga (which happen even with body shots at same frequency). Now its just straight nerfed needing more shots for the Red 9... Sure, it might actually be stronger still in like Assisted difficulty when HP gets low enough the crit chance can't exceed it but in harder difficulties and arguably even standard its not doing well in either version of the game. Red 9 also struggles when there are multiple enemies due to its poor fire rate and capacity... As Red 9 upgrades slower due to higher cost its also slower to really finally meaningfully exceed Handgun before the special which is another drawback. Again, none of this is considering the Handgun's critical on melee factor in OG (no idea if it occurs in remake though).

Ammo economy is great IF you are using the pistol a lot for fodder mobs or doing exploits to generate lots of specific ammo. Thus you want to use the most ideal economic pistol which is going to be the Handgun.

In the OG the Broken Butterfly is quite easy to cap the dmg and get its exclusive and considering how ridiculously scarce magnum ammo is this makes it significantly more valuable otherwise the value drops too much. You would have to be seriously mismanaging your funds for you to not be able to cap it plus it has significantly more free ammo from the upgrades in the OG over Killer 7. Naturally, not everyone is good at that or doesn't explore enough to save up and put funds in other weapons so the Killer 7 is still, indeed, a superb alternative no doubt.

I have no idea why you would say the Magnum is bad for Saddler due to its "mechanic". You have to shoot it just like other bosses. Same for krauser, in fact. The exceptions are the knife tricks for the two bosses that aren't for first run normal users really. The final boss, btw, needs around 2000 damage before you can rocket launcher it... which makes it easily the boss that the Magnum is most valuable for and that you would be using your precious magnum ammo on aside from the free ammo from prior capacity upgrades. If you got... say... 25 Magnum ammo in your run (plus their final capacity's free ammo from upgrade) that Killer 7 (14 ammo included in clip) would do tops 1,365 dmg to Saddler... Broken Butterfly (12 ammo included in clip) would do 1,850 with the same amount of ammo of the 2000 HP pool almost killing Saddler on its own. Further, if you went the Handgun route you have almost the entire difference in the two Magnum's full upgrade costs saved to get the Broken Butterfly upgraded with the same amount of cash spent between the chosen pistol + magnum for the run.
I used ticket on Riot gun, gives it nearly 20 damage and it being a shotgun means ammo is relatively common so it slaps
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Most likely your preferred revolver. Someone else further in feel free to chime in.


Which is better Killer 7 or broken butterfly
Killer 7 should be pretty obvious
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