Resident Evil 4

Resident Evil 4

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本夹明SPenguin Mar 24, 2023 @ 1:03pm
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"If you played RE4 before, start with Hardcore difficulty" my a**
Don't start fresh with hardcore.

It's pain, it's torture, it's sadism without pleasure. Especially if you play with a controller.

There are advantages to this difficulty:
1. You will learn every single enemy really well very fast, because if you don't you will not make it past any of them lmfao.
2. It probably will prepare you better for PRO mode.
3. It will teach you the virtue of patience and perseverance.

Con:
You will suffer.

Dear lord please let me carry my good guns into my first Professional run.
Last edited by 本夹明SPenguin; Mar 24, 2023 @ 1:04pm
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Kibbee Mar 30, 2023 @ 9:43am 
I honestly believe Hardcore is the way the game is meant to be played. It causes anxiety and tension during combat sequences. It really makes you feel like you are in an impossible situation and you are fighting for you life. The game also will give you ammo and health items if you are low on either. I haven't had such a thrill with a horror survival action game in a long time. I think they nailed it.
X YdoC Mar 30, 2023 @ 11:52am 
Originally posted by Viktor:
Originally posted by X YdoC:
Playing on hardcore for me was the first genuine resident evil experience I've felt in idk how long. Yea it was very stressful barely skating by on ammo the entire time, but that just forced me to use the knife more and plan ahead more. It is pretty damn unforgiving and inventory space was an issue as well. BUT it did finally pay off at the very end when I finished with about 12 first aid sprays in storage and roughly 2 boxes of every ammo type except magnum and plenty of gp and resources. I even wasted like 5 full heals running around the boss arena collecting stuff lol. I would only recommend it for serious players, but this is a pretty big time for resident evil fans, so if you were a fan of the old one like I was, and you CAN do it, I say do it. You only get one first playthrough.
On hardcore i was fine with inventory space as ammo at my every weapon was showing 0 all the time and i was constantly out of healing items. And i had to sell some weapons couple of times to buy different ones for different enemies in different areas and then to re-buy them and re-upgrade them again.
And not sure how you could use knife more often. It breaks pretty quickly.


Originally posted by Ashley's House Husband:
Hardcore feels like the ideal difficulty if you play with k&m it's just that the start of the game is one of the hardest parts. There are definitely some rough spots where you will die repeatedly but outside of those you shouldn't die often.



This is obviously not true, the game directly contradicts this in the difficulty description but also, when I tried standard I was running out of inventory space for all the accumulated healing items. It's a mode for pram-based gamers and controller users.
I played with controller on hardcore. I don't like to play with k&m.
literally the first weapon I upgraded was my knife lol and as soon as I found a new one, I would use it up. Healh was the only real thing I didn't struggle with, but I did replay a couple sections where I got hit too many times thanks to autosaves.
Herobrine Mar 30, 2023 @ 7:06pm 
Originally posted by Spaghetti_Penguin:
Originally posted by Viktor:
I just finished the game on hardcore on my first run. But yes, it was hard. There was times i wanted to give up, but i eventually managed to get through everything somehow.

Yeah, I finished the first run on Hardcore too. Wanted to give up multiple times as well.
Good news is now I have a tactic for every tricky situation there is in this game.
I just hope professional ain't gonna make the enemies even more erratic. I heard they only hit harder, and their AI stays the same.
I want my cat ears, dunno when I'm gonna be able to get it.
I think I died to Salazar more times than any boss in the entire franchise doing my first run on hardcore. I eventually just farmed for magnum rounds and cheesed him because I wanted to move on.
Johnny 5 Mar 30, 2023 @ 7:40pm 
lol the If you've played RE4 before message baited me into hardcore for my first play-through buuut glad I did it.

Currently on chapter 9 and yea it's a bit rough but nothing to crazy (yet) Definitely had buy my first Rifle in the game here (Stingray + scope) which turned out to be a great decision.
Keiskay Mar 30, 2023 @ 8:49pm 
I started on Hardcore and it was rough at the start but its evened out to the point where its actually kinda easy
NeoRizer Mar 30, 2023 @ 9:19pm 
Yeah that description is in fact ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥. Hardcore on RE4R is much harder than RE4 on Professional... like they're complete worlds apart.

I figured out the formula for this game though... if you want the S+ rewards nearly stress free, here's how to do it:

1st Playthrough: (Easy, most casual play through, tedious)

Play on Assisted:

Collect EVERYTHING.... all the treasures, open up everything, do all the requests, buy the expanded map if you have to to find extra hidden items and load up your elegant crowns and all your good stuff with different coloured gems and sell them to the merchant.

Only upgrade the starting pistol and the first shotgun you find, max them out, save everything else.

Do not buy a sniper, do not buy any other weapons until you can buy the Broken Butterfly and give it a good balance of upgrades but don't waste all your cash maxing it... you won't need to.

Use any resources you find to make magnum rounds and save them for hard enemies / bosses... like the Garridors, Verdugo and Salazar.

Shoot all 16 Clockwork Castellions and unlock the Primal Knife.

Beat the game getting whatever rank you want.

2nd Playthrough: (Super Easy, fun)

Do a NG+ on this same save and play on Professional. Save up as much Peseta's as possible so you can buy the infinite launcher for 2 million at the first merchant.

Do not worry about how many times you save.

Blitz this play through as fast as you can and get at least an A Rank to unlock Armored Ashley and the Chicago Sweeper.

3rd Playthrough: (The most difficult play through but you'll have tools to help)

Start a NG on a fresh save and choose Professional, make sure to equip Ashley in her Armor and grab the Chicago Sweeper and Primal Knife from the first typewriter possible.

Do not save more than 15 times! and beat the game in under 5.5 hours.

Try to be as fast as possible and ONLY upgrade the Chicago Sweeper, get the 30 Spinels, do as many easy requests as you can while playing and unlock the exclusive upgrade ticket.

If you do it right, by Chapter 7 you can unlock the infinite ammo for the Chicago Sweeper.
After that work on the Primal Knife, if only for the Krauser knife fight.

You can literally blast through the rest of the game killing just about everything in minimal time and get the S+ which unlocks the Cat Ears (Infinite Ammo for all guns) among other things that will aid you in subsequent playthroughs.

4th Playthrough:

Start another fresh NG from scratch on Professional.

This time don't use ANY bonus weapons from the storage.

You can equip the Armor on Ashley and the newly acquired Cat Ears for infinite ammo...

Now play the game normally, don't worry about time or anything, just casually play the game and beat it and you'll unlock the Hand Cannon.

Rank DOESN'T MATTER... just don't use bonus weapons... So no Primal Knife and no Chicago Sweeper...

Just upgrade your favourite weapons, sell any excess garbage and upgrade your best guns quick time to make it easier on yourself.

The Infinite Launcher can still be purchased and used because it costs 2 million peseta's and doesn't count as a "bonus weapon" but good look trying to get 2 mill in a single play through... by the time you can afford it the game will be over.

Any way, after that you can play the game any way you like and mop up whatever challenges you have left to get.

But yeah, that's most efficient way to play the game if you want to make it less stressful.
twiggy Mar 30, 2023 @ 9:57pm 
hardcore is easy compared to professional
Mugen_Vtec Mar 30, 2023 @ 10:13pm 
I didn't think hardcore was that bad. I died quite a bit on some areas, super low on ammo, like 5 handgun ammo or something. But that's how it was in OG RE games. Gave the true RE experience IMO. I watched streams where they were playing on standard, and ♥♥♥♥ man, there's so much ammo and heals that there's never like a sense of the old RE resource management.
FreshRevenge Mar 30, 2023 @ 11:55pm 
Originally posted by Viktor:
Originally posted by UnofficialName:
It was tough until I decided to run past pointless engagements. The end game basically invites the player to do this.
Wish i could have run past two Garradors in one room + priests or two Regeneradors in one room that also transformed when you killed all the parasites on them. Or the part at the end game where Ashley had to turn the wheel and hold it to create the bridge for you and when you did whatever was needed on the other side, soldiers started coming on her side and kidnapping her. And before you could start doing anything about it, you had to kill transforming Regenerador on your side. These parts probably gave me biggest nightmare.

I would kill off the main group of guys that go after Ashley. Don't trigger the regenderator by going by the trash on the ground. Stay in the small area where you see Ashley. Go back to the level that you turn the power on and down the hall which you came through and where the enemies spawn and head in. Place a a few bomb arrows in spaces of each other.

Now you should be able to run past the regenerator and get to Ashley.

It seems like you kill the main group of guys. But one will spawn in while you are running back to Ashley. By the time you to get to her, they would be interrupting her holding the bridge up and you got an angry regenerator grabbing you while you can't reallly do anything when they picked up her.
Last edited by FreshRevenge; Mar 30, 2023 @ 11:55pm
Dark-Buddha Mar 31, 2023 @ 2:14am 
Originally posted by NeoRizer:
Yeah that description is in fact ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥. Hardcore on RE4R is much harder than RE4 on Professional... like they're complete worlds apart.

I figured out the formula for this game though... if you want the S+ rewards nearly stress free, here's how to do it:

1st Playthrough: (Easy, most casual play through, tedious)

Play on Assisted:

Collect EVERYTHING.... all the treasures, open up everything, do all the requests, buy the expanded map if you have to to find extra hidden items and load up your elegant crowns and all your good stuff with different coloured gems and sell them to the merchant.

Only upgrade the starting pistol and the first shotgun you find, max them out, save everything else.

Do not buy a sniper, do not buy any other weapons until you can buy the Broken Butterfly and give it a good balance of upgrades but don't waste all your cash maxing it... you won't need to.

Use any resources you find to make magnum rounds and save them for hard enemies / bosses... like the Garridors, Verdugo and Salazar.

Shoot all 16 Clockwork Castellions and unlock the Primal Knife.

Beat the game getting whatever rank you want.

2nd Playthrough: (Super Easy, fun)

Do a NG+ on this same save and play on Professional. Save up as much Peseta's as possible so you can buy the infinite launcher for 2 million at the first merchant.

Do not worry about how many times you save.

Blitz this play through as fast as you can and get at least an A Rank to unlock Armored Ashley and the Chicago Sweeper.

3rd Playthrough: (The most difficult play through but you'll have tools to help)

Start a NG on a fresh save and choose Professional, make sure to equip Ashley in her Armor and grab the Chicago Sweeper and Primal Knife from the first typewriter possible.

Do not save more than 15 times! and beat the game in under 5.5 hours.

Try to be as fast as possible and ONLY upgrade the Chicago Sweeper, get the 30 Spinels, do as many easy requests as you can while playing and unlock the exclusive upgrade ticket.

If you do it right, by Chapter 7 you can unlock the infinite ammo for the Chicago Sweeper.
After that work on the Primal Knife, if only for the Krauser knife fight.

You can literally blast through the rest of the game killing just about everything in minimal time and get the S+ which unlocks the Cat Ears (Infinite Ammo for all guns) among other things that will aid you in subsequent playthroughs.

4th Playthrough:

Start another fresh NG from scratch on Professional.

This time don't use ANY bonus weapons from the storage.

You can equip the Armor on Ashley and the newly acquired Cat Ears for infinite ammo...

Now play the game normally, don't worry about time or anything, just casually play the game and beat it and you'll unlock the Hand Cannon.

Rank DOESN'T MATTER... just don't use bonus weapons... So no Primal Knife and no Chicago Sweeper...

Just upgrade your favourite weapons, sell any excess garbage and upgrade your best guns quick time to make it easier on yourself.

The Infinite Launcher can still be purchased and used because it costs 2 million peseta's and doesn't count as a "bonus weapon" but good look trying to get 2 mill in a single play through... by the time you can afford it the game will be over.

Any way, after that you can play the game any way you like and mop up whatever challenges you have left to get.

But yeah, that's most efficient way to play the game if you want to make it less stressful.

This is THE guide to doing the Professional runs.
Val May 5, 2023 @ 7:23am 
Originally posted by 80TCS:
I'd say hardcore is the same difficulty to play on KB&M as standard is with a controller..

I can confirm this is 100% true. Have tried the cabin fight over a dozen times with gamepad, only to get swamped on the top floor... Just did it with keyboard and mouse, barely broke a sweat. Play with keyboard and mouse, or don't bother trying Hardcore unless you're a masochist.

I've come to enjoy playing with gamepads, but for intense FPSs like this, there is simply no possible way to be both as fast with large movements and precise with small movements with sticks as you can with a mouse, and in this game especially, that makes a huge difference.

Turning with sticks is just too slow... Even at max camera speed, it's still way slower than with a mouse. So I tend to have tunnel vision going for headshots on the guys in front of me, because turning wastes too much precious time, but then I get grabbed from behind or pitchforked in the side. And if a guy gets all up in my face trying to grab me, I just can't move the reticle fast enough to get a headshot. Of course you can crank up the speed for aiming, but that makes it harder to get distant headshots.

With a mouse, I never need quickturn, because I can swivel my view around just as fast without it. So I can stay aware of my surroundings, and when someone gets in close, I can easily stun them with headshots before they can grab me.

Keyboard and mouse is just an objectively superior interface for FPSs... The only better one is VR, in which you can look around freely with your head, and aim with your hand like you would with an actual gun. RE4 on Quest was the best flat-to-VR conversion I've ever seen, and it's one of the best VR games there is IMO...desperately hoping they make a VR mode for this remake that's at least half as good.
Last edited by Val; May 5, 2023 @ 7:33am
D. Flame May 5, 2023 @ 8:01am 
Hardcore is fine once you have played on a lower difficulty and learned the way the game works. Like I said before, your experience from the older game doesn't really carry over.
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