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Fedexxy Apr 30, 2023 @ 2:37pm
RE8 Mercenaries x RE4R Mercenaries
In my opinion, RE8 Mercenaries was alright but doesn't beat Mercenaries from other RE titles (RE4, RE5, RE6, RE4R). However, I thought that RE8 Mercenaries' mechanic of choosing from 3 random abilities upon breaking a blue orb was neat and increased its replay value due to some of the insane builds you could end up getting, such as stacking melee damage or movement speed. This made RE8's Mercenaries stand out more.

I'm just curious if anyone else thought it'd be a neat idea if this upgrade mechanic was implemented into RE4R Mercenaries via a separate mode or maybe through modding. It would make Mercenaries even more fun on top of the busted Mayhem modes everyone already has access to.
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Salfaden Apr 30, 2023 @ 3:17pm 
That's exactly why I think RE8's mercenaries is more complex and engaging, but in RE4 all u do is kill as many enemies as u can. RE8 also had multiple areas for the same map with a shop in between where u could buy/sell stuff or upgrade weapons. This made RE8 more fun imo compared to RE4's.
Re8's mercs was just bad, for the single reason that enemies all had trigger spawns. If it worked like Re4 remake/ OG Re4 where enemies kept coming with the upgrades/buffs it would have been awesome fun and repayable to no end.

But Salfaden above me is just wrong. It was not "complex" or "engaging" since for every single character you did the same exact things. You had to take the same paths making sure to trigger all the enemy spawns the same exact way. Every single run felt the same regardless of character because you could not change how you approached the maps at all. It got super boring fast and did not help that you needed to do good with the characters for unlock buffs and more characters. So it was running the same paths over, and over, and over....
Last edited by Cinnamon Toast King; Apr 30, 2023 @ 3:24pm
Salfaden Apr 30, 2023 @ 3:25pm 
Originally posted by Cinnamon Toast King:
Re8's mercs was just bad, for the single reason that enemies all had trigger spawns. If it worked like Re4 remake/ OG Re4 where enemies kept coming with the upgrades/buffs it would have been awesome fun and repayable to no end.

But Salfaden above me is just wrong. It was not "complex" or "engaging" since for every single character you did the same exact things. You had to take the same paths making sure to trigger all the enemy spawns the same exact way. Every single run felt the same regardless of character because you could not change how you approached the maps at all. It got super boring fast and did not help that you needed to do good with the characters to unlock buffs and more characters.

I'm not wrong tho lmfao, they updated the trigger spawns, now they chase after you if you missed them so it blows your argument out the water. This made the game significantly better. RE8's mercs was awesome. I got SSS in all maps!
Last edited by Salfaden; Apr 30, 2023 @ 3:27pm
Originally posted by Salfaden:
Originally posted by Cinnamon Toast King:
Re8's mercs was just bad, for the single reason that enemies all had trigger spawns. If it worked like Re4 remake/ OG Re4 where enemies kept coming with the upgrades/buffs it would have been awesome fun and repayable to no end.

But Salfaden above me is just wrong. It was not "complex" or "engaging" since for every single character you did the same exact things. You had to take the same paths making sure to trigger all the enemy spawns the same exact way. Every single run felt the same regardless of character because you could not change how you approached the maps at all. It got super boring fast and did not help that you needed to do good with the characters to unlock buffs and more characters.

I'm not wrong tho lmfao, they updated the trigger spawns, now they chase after you if you missed them so cry harder. This made the game significantly better. RE8's mercs was awesome. I got SSS in all maps!

Still doesn't make it any better for them having to be triggered in the first place. Oh you are also already acting like a child saying "cry harder". You are already a waste of time to even reply to. I SSS in all maps with all characters as well and it was boring.
Salfaden Apr 30, 2023 @ 3:33pm 
Originally posted by Cinnamon Toast King:
Originally posted by Salfaden:

I'm not wrong tho lmfao, they updated the trigger spawns, now they chase after you if you missed them so cry harder. This made the game significantly better. RE8's mercs was awesome. I got SSS in all maps!

Still doesn't make it any better for them having to be triggered in the first place. Oh you are also already acting like a child saying "cry harder". You are already a waste of time to even reply to. I SSS in all maps with all characters as well and it was boring.

wut? Why u so butthurt over a cry harder joke lol? So wait I explained how they updated it and it made it significantly better cause there's no more triggers (literally explained by devs) and your only counter is 'still doesn't make it any better' lmfaooooo. If u don't have any actual arguments, u can take a seat, even OP agrees RE8's mechanics were much better.
Last edited by Salfaden; Apr 30, 2023 @ 3:36pm
Originally posted by Salfaden:
Originally posted by Cinnamon Toast King:

Still doesn't make it any better for them having to be triggered in the first place. Oh you are also already acting like a child saying "cry harder". You are already a waste of time to even reply to. I SSS in all maps with all characters as well and it was boring.

wut? Why u so butthurt over a cry harder joke lol? So wait I explained how they updated it and it made it significantly better cause there's no more triggers (literally explained by devs) and your only counter is 'still doesn't make it any better' lmfaooooo. If u don't have any actual arguments, u can take a seat, even OP agrees RE8's mechanics were much better.

Show these patch notes as I cant seem to find them. Also you never said , "there's no more triggers (literally explained by devs) " till just now so don't play it off like you already said it. What kind of idiot does that?! Also I played it last getting all SSS when they added all the new mercs characters so if this silly little update happened much after that its to little to late.

Update: Yeah you are full of ♥♥♥♥ about Re8 village spawn triggers not being a thing. They still are.
Last edited by Cinnamon Toast King; Apr 30, 2023 @ 3:56pm
Salfaden Apr 30, 2023 @ 4:10pm 
Originally posted by Cinnamon Toast King:
Show these patch notes as I cant seem to find them. Also you never said , "there's no more triggers (literally explained by devs) " till just now so don't play it off like you already said it. What kind of idiot does that?! Also I played it last getting all SSS when they added all the new mercs characters so if this silly little update happened much after that its to little to late.

Update: Yeah you are full of ♥♥♥♥ about Re8 village spawn triggers not being a thing. They still are.

jesus christ u got so triggered for no reason lol, but here ya go

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9e_U2Uz_hr8&t=2178s

go to 35:57

Dev straight up says we adjusted mercs to make sure very little time was spent waiting for enemies to appear. U got so mad u couldn't even do proper research. Spawn triggers can be missed, and those enemies will chase after you. When I said spawn triggers are no more, I meant u don't need to trigger them manually anymore, enemies will chase after you, gosh read the room.

Plus how did u get SSS in all maps if u hated playing it? Doesn't make sense. Why did u even decide to get SSS? Why are u bragging about it to if u hated it? Seems to me you loved RE8s mercenaries lmfaooo, trying so hard to show you don't, u can drop the act now troll.
Last edited by Salfaden; Apr 30, 2023 @ 4:12pm
Originally posted by Salfaden:
Originally posted by Cinnamon Toast King:
Show these patch notes as I cant seem to find them. Also you never said , "there's no more triggers (literally explained by devs) " till just now so don't play it off like you already said it. What kind of idiot does that?! Also I played it last getting all SSS when they added all the new mercs characters so if this silly little update happened much after that its to little to late.

Update: Yeah you are full of ♥♥♥♥ about Re8 village spawn triggers not being a thing. They still are.

jesus christ u got so triggered for no reason lol, but here ya go

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9e_U2Uz_hr8&t=2178s

go to 35:57

Dev straight up says we adjusted mercs to make sure very little time was spent waiting for enemies to appear. U got so mad u couldn't even do proper research. Spawn triggers can be missed, and those enemies will chase after you. When I said spawn triggers are no more, I meant u don't need to trigger them manually anymore, enemies will chase after you, gosh read the room.

Plus how did u get SSS in all maps if u hated playing it? Doesn't make sense. Why did u even decide to get SSS? Why are u bragging about it to if u hated it? Seems to me you loved RE8s mercenaries lmfaooo, trying so hard to show you don't, u can drop the act now troll.
My man you are such a ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥....it did not fix the major issue of spawns needing to be triggered. I do honestly think you are have a mental handicap. I don't mean that as an insult either. You have some serous issues you need to work on and thats

Originally posted by Salfaden:
Originally posted by Cinnamon Toast King:
Show these patch notes as I cant seem to find them. Also you never said , "there's no more triggers (literally explained by devs) " till just now so don't play it off like you already said it. What kind of idiot does that?! Also I played it last getting all SSS when they added all the new mercs characters so if this silly little update happened much after that its to little to late.

Update: Yeah you are full of ♥♥♥♥ about Re8 village spawn triggers not being a thing. They still are.

jesus christ u got so triggered for no reason lol, but here ya go

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9e_U2Uz_hr8&t=2178s

go to 35:57

Dev straight up says we adjusted mercs to make sure very little time was spent waiting for enemies to appear. U got so mad u couldn't even do proper research. Spawn triggers can be missed, and those enemies will chase after you. When I said spawn triggers are no more, I meant u don't need to trigger them manually anymore, enemies will chase after you, gosh read the room.

Plus how did u get SSS in all maps if u hated playing it? Doesn't make sense. Why did u even decide to get SSS? Why are u bragging about it to if u hated it? Seems to me you loved RE8s mercenaries lmfaooo, trying so hard to show you don't, u can drop the act now troll.
Man you are such a ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥.....your stupidity as gone on long enough and I can't bother putting up with it anymore. This is literally the launch trailer and if you played the mercs you would know spawns still need to be triggered.

We are done here
Salfaden Apr 30, 2023 @ 6:58pm 
Originally posted by Cinnamon Toast King:
My man you are such a ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥....it did not fix the major issue of spawns needing to be triggered. I do honestly think you are have a mental handicap. I don't mean that as an insult either. You have some serous issues you need to work on and thats

Man you are such a ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥.....your stupidity as gone on long enough and I can't bother putting up with it anymore. This is literally the launch trailer and if you played the mercs you would know spawns still need to be triggered.

We are done here

Holy hell, are u 12? never seen a child cope this hard, mental handicap? wow dude, u sure tell a lot about yourself. I hope u find happiness in life. U can never interact properly in social situations.

Also launch trailer? wtf No, its the RE showcase where devs talk about the game, the mark I pointed out shows the dev straight up saying they fixed spawn points to make the game more fun. Tell me u didn't watch the video without telling me u didn't watch the video. Enemies can be triggered but if u missed them, they chase after, thats what the dev was saying.

Also u never answered my question as to why u got SSS in all maps. If insults are your last resort with no actual counters and u gave up, we know u lost and never had any points. You we just a hater. Adios muchacho, I hope u gain some form of rational thinking in the near future.

But anyways OP, I agree with u that RE8's mercs has better mechanics compared to current version of RE4 mercs. Hope they add a new update fixing the difficulty cause its way too easy now. Maybe like RE8's additional orders, RE4 might also receive some update to its mercs adding ability orbs, multiple areas etc., in the Ada separate ways DLC? That would be awesome!
RE8 Mercs is one of the worst we had in recent years for sure. RE4R one is awesome and i wasn't expecting it to be good to be honest. But, it's indeed fun and replayable. However it lacks of variety and balancing.

- Leon is designed to be the top tier characters (For high score). Where Krauser being the most OP one (Gameplay) but he is the worst characters for high score runs.

As reference the highest score (Legit) is 2,3m with leon and only 1,8m for Krauser. The score cap is set at 2,5m. I'm pretty sure he is the only one to possibly reach the limit. If the datamine and mods are accurate. Wesker will be the second worst character after Krauser for high score grind.

I don't know if Capcom cares or not but a coop mode for mercenaries would be awesome. especially that we know. That a new map is coming and 4 new characters are coming (i count costumes a new character).
Dank Sidious May 1, 2023 @ 4:59am 
The upgrades added a certian twist, but the way they used the level layouts and pre-set spawn points for different waves wasn't really enjoyable to me.

RE4R mercs might be simplistic now, but it's a tighter more enjoyable package. Add a level maybe an extra difficulty setting and the missing characters and RE4R mercs will be just as great as RE4 and RE5 mercs.
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