CH. 9 Towers Switch skip (Speed Strat Hunt)

[Urn Sudden]

So, I was in CH9, going through a Hardcore run on NG6 ATM because my last playthrough was on assisted (for extracurriculars) and I didn't wanna jump assisted to pro, planning routing for avoiding things for an S+
I was going to try using the sniper scope clip through the door in the hedge maze leading to the section with the chimera puzzle, and upon running up to the door I suddenly clipped through the stairs and ended up on the other side. I have NO idea what I did, but a close approximation would be running toward the door with the semi-auto sniper at a 45ish degree angle toward the left side of the staircase and releasing the run button around the beginning of the steps, just putting it out there that this happened if glitchhunters wanna hone in, I feel like that's at least a 10 minute skip if repeatable (Unless sniper skip works on those doors already, not sure, literally just happened and I stopped the game to post this)

[Setari]

If we could get video evidence that'd be awesome.

I'm about to start a new playthrough so when I get there I'll try and follow this and do it.

[Urn Sudden]

No video cos it caught me off guard out of left field, but here's being behind the locked gate (No problem with backtracking cos the weird carriage railcar thing is immediately ahead)

https://steamcommunity.com/profiles/76561198040644163/screenshots/?appid=2050650

[Platapoop]

Leon didn't jump or anything? You just went up the stairs at a strange angle and ended up behind the door?

[Urn Sudden]

Originally posted by Platapoop:

Leon didn't jump or anything? You just went up the stairs at a strange angle and ended up behind the door?

It was kind of a fell through the stairs, quickly voided out and ended up at the top, behind the gate.

Just tried to backtrack and try it again, but the armored gigante took out the only other path there and it autosaved when I got to the chimera room so I'm gonna need to get through ch1-8 to try it again

[Setari]

If you're talking about the bridge troll, there's access across on the right side of the "bridge" area, a small walkable area. However you're probably farther in the game now, but when you get back to that point it'd be great to have you test.

You were using the Stingray semi auto rifle? Were you scoped in at the end when you stopped? Positioning, turns, etc? The beginning of the steps meaning the bottom of the steps leading up? What's your FPS set to?

Also as far as I can tell sniper skip only works in the construction zone due to the interactable door from the other side, no other door works.

[Urn Sudden]

Did NOT get any further ahead, so I'll definitely double back-- it's my and my GF's anniversary and after this whole thing we were working out kinks in Halo master chief collections' local coop because she and I grew up playing that and wanted to run a campaign with me for our 2 year, lol
But YES
Stingray semi-auto, bottom of the steps, any turning that might've happened was with the intent to change direction toward the gate-- just ran at the left side of the staircase, maybe one or 2 paces away from the left-most side of the staircase at about a 45 degree angle, I think RE2make muscle memory might've kicked in and I started pumping the aim button to get up the stairs faster but before I even got one pulse in the clip happened, so I'm assuming it either has something to do with the animation transition between running on flat ground, slowing down, and the stairs, or more likely the stairs and the slightly offset position when aiming down the scope--
Wish I was recording, would make this hella ez to address.

ALSO
I couldn't get any of the double door skips reliably at all, all I managed was the Regenerador room in 15 I think, the one with the thin doors and the cranks WISH I COULD SKIP CONSTRUCTION THOUGH, THAT WHOLE THINGS A RESOURCE SINK.

[FruitBat Man]

That's already a known skip. I read about it when I was trying to get tips for my pro run.

[Setari]

Originally posted by FruitBat Man:

That's already a known skip. I read about it when I was trying to get tips for my pro run.

Speedrunners aren't using it, so apparently not. Even Distortion2 had someone tell him in his chat today that there was a skip for courtyard and he just scoffed and said "yeah right". Can I get what article you were reading that had that in it?

[Setari]

Originally posted by Urn Sudden:

Did NOT get any further ahead, so I'll definitely double back-- it's my and my GF's anniversary and after this whole thing we were working out kinks in Halo master chief collections' local coop because she and I grew up playing that and wanted to run a campaign with me for our 2 year, lol
But YES
Stingray semi-auto, bottom of the steps, any turning that might've happened was with the intent to change direction toward the gate-- just ran at the left side of the staircase, maybe one or 2 paces away from the left-most side of the staircase at about a 45 degree angle, I think RE2make muscle memory might've kicked in and I started pumping the aim button to get up the stairs faster but before I even got one pulse in the clip happened, so I'm assuming it either has something to do with the animation transition between running on flat ground, slowing down, and the stairs, or more likely the stairs and the slightly offset position when aiming down the scope--
Wish I was recording, would make this hella ez to address.

ALSO
I couldn't get any of the double door skips reliably at all, all I managed was the Regenerador room in 15 I think, the one with the thin doors and the cranks WISH I COULD SKIP CONSTRUCTION THOUGH, THAT WHOLE THINGS A RESOURCE SINK.

The wrecking ball section? You can skip it like this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TgceMnpk4AM

That's the only skip I can get reliably, that and duffelbag ashley on any diff but professional since I use the autosave method. Distortion2 was trying to figure out better ways to trigger it outside of the room without using autosaves (since there aren't any on Prof) but seems to be really hit or miss still.

[Urn Sudden]

Originally posted by Setari:

If you're talking about the bridge troll, there's access across on the right side of the "bridge" area, a small walkable area. However you're probably farther in the game now, but when you get back to that point it'd be great to have you test.

You were using the Stingray semi auto rifle? Were you scoped in at the end when you stopped? Positioning, turns, etc? The beginning of the steps meaning the bottom of the steps leading up? What's your FPS set to?

Also as far as I can tell sniper skip only works in the construction zone due to the interactable door from the other side, no other door works.

ANOTHER DETAIL--
Variable FPS, bioscanner scope, but there was a small dip when the crows flew off after I passed them, immediately before the stair clip, generally running 60+ though, so if there's any luck in repeatability it might in 60. I doubled back (Thx4bridge troll info btw) and have a save dedicated to trying to replicate it now, tried 30, 60, and 120, and what I'm describing definitely isn't working, so maybe a one-off unreliable fluke, maybe something to do with the crows, not certain, but for testing purposes a fresh save right at the start of ch9 is ideal, cos it happened on the first pass toward it as the crows flew off, and they don't spawn on subsequent passes through it seems. Not a speedrunner by any stretch of the imagination, but I figure if there's something worth looking into there, the internet brute-forcing potential leads is how you get there, lol

Definitely trying the construction skip btw--

[Tetra]

That would be extremely helpful for the speedrun, we've been looking for a way to skip maze. Can we talk on Discord maybe? (Tetra#3452)

[Tetra]

I'm not sure if this is of any interest to you, but the speedrunning community is starting to be able to replicate this! It's still inconsistent, but we're figuring it out!

[Urn Sudden]

Originally posted by Tetra:

I'm not sure if this is of any interest to you, but the speedrunning community is starting to be able to replicate this! It's still inconsistent, but we're figuring it out!

SICK AS HELL
I tried to replicate it probably a grand total of 4 hours myself with no luck and no new information to contribute, but I'm glad it's going somewhere. Definitely burned myself out on thinking about it, running into a wall for 4 hours, lol

[Tetra]

Haha well now we're ALL doing just that, kinda running into stairs for hours and hoping to get launched. I could send you a couple of videos of this glitch (called a "zip"), if you're curious.

Ty for making this thread btw, despite the lack of video footage, it at least taught us that this was a possibility if we ever figured out zips, and that's the first spot I tried once it started to make sense haha