The REAL reason why Capcom patched the glitches!

[Dootslayer]

Think guys.
Will it affect speedrunners? Of course not, they already know how to play with the door skips and such, so any% with glitches is unchanged.
Who does it affect though? That's right, you.
A big portion of the playerbase struggles to get S+ on professional, glitches helped with that by saving you time.

You know what else can help you? Buying Golden Tickets, and starting your game with an infinite ammo magnum and smg.

Stop fighting each other and realize that this was nothing but a corpo move, especially towards console players.
This is one sure way to get people who want to get the cat ears but might lack the game knowledge to do so, to open up their wallets.

So yeah, stop fighting each other, stop pointing fingers , stop sidetracking to a community that won't be affected (the speedrunning one) and let's just face it, that Capcom a greedy but brilliant corporate move with this glitch.
The only one who loses are the players, but that's stretching it.

[WetNachosFlavor]

finished S+ professional without any skips or glitches , collected most treasures killed even verdugo without using rpgs , infinite ammo junk or any other ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ in 4:30:49 so still an hour left
so no it doesn't affect me but filthy casuals with a skill issue

[Caffeinated]

WetNachosFlavor eredeti hozzászólása:

finished S+ professional without any skips or glitches , collected most treasures killed even verdugo without using rpgs , infinite ammo junk or any other ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ in 4:30:49 so still an hour left
so no it doesn't affect me but filthy casuals with a skill issue

Casuals deserve having their money ripped out of them to get tickets.
I can't believe people really think that they should be rewarded the same compared to a player that actually went and did the challenge head on without using extra/dlc stuff/glitching their way to completion.

[Kamakura]

Pääpeelsepuuppi eredeti hozzászólása:

Except Capcom is the one company the generally doesn't and has always been very supportive of speedrunning. It's not even much of a conspiracy theory. If anything it makes sense to do. Why wouldn't you want to fix exploits that make the biggest challenge in the game easier when you are selling cheat items yourself. If I was in a position to decide about something like this I would certainly do it.

In what way has Capcom been "supportive" of speedrunners? I think you are taking them not patching every bug and glitch found by speedrunners and equating that for support, which is not what that is. Companies patch out exploits all the time, especially early in its release. Most devs don't want bugs and glitches in their games, but inevitably some get left behind because they are either low priority, simply overlooked, or are too hard to fix and as long as they aren't game breaking, there's not a big need to fix it.

And no the tickets aren't "cheat items", they are unnecessary time saver items for people who have money to spare. I don't think they are good, but most people aren't buying them and it costs Capcom very little to make them available for players they think will buy them. There's literal cheat programs and mods out there that let players do whatever they want. If it was about Capcom's greed, they would have made it so people couldn't mod the game lol

[Persona Au Gratin]

Kamakeeg eredeti hozzászólása:

Pääpeelsepuuppi eredeti hozzászólása:

Except Capcom is the one company the generally doesn't and has always been very supportive of speedrunning. It's not even much of a conspiracy theory. If anything it makes sense to do. Why wouldn't you want to fix exploits that make the biggest challenge in the game easier when you are selling cheat items yourself. If I was in a position to decide about something like this I would certainly do it.

In what way has Capcom been "supportive" of speedrunners? I think you are taking them not patching every bug and glitch found by speedrunners and equating that for support, which is not what that is. Companies patch out exploits all the time, especially early in its release. Most devs don't want bugs and glitches in their games, but inevitably some get left behind because they are either low priority, simply overlooked, or are too hard to fix and as long as they aren't game breaking, there's not a big need to fix it.

And no the tickets aren't "cheat items", they are unnecessary time saver items for people who have money to spare. I don't think they are good, but most people aren't buying them and it costs Capcom very little to make them available for players they think will buy them. There's literal cheat programs and mods out there that let players do whatever they want. If it was about Capcom's greed, they would have made it so people couldn't mod the game lol

Ease of access always makes the "You can just download trainers" a very flimsy argument, because that's not the point. What makes it predatory is that the game is designed in such a way to make it seem very appealing and convenient. Someone should actually get the sales figures for these types of DLC instead of these wack theoretical arguments at this point.

I'm already gonna just do some digging since I think that's way too much effort for the average weirdo vs just literally making something up about social practice and how they feel that makes something more or less probable. I'm convinced that the game's design is enough incentive for most folks, but I think looking at the actual numbers would produce something more useful than whatever the hell "Capcom would have made it so people can't mod the game."

That's clearly a a move that courts controversy. If anything, it's never stopped people from making costumes for Monster Hunter and, not only that, that just means that people who mod payable costumes just end up creating an incentive to buy that content. It is not a black or white issue in terms of who does and does not benefit.

[Kakihara]

Dootslayer eredeti hozzászólása:

Think guys.
Will it affect speedrunners? Of course not, they already know how to play with the door skips and such, so any% with glitches is unchanged.

Their runs are illegitimate.

[Platapoop]

Elden ring patched skips and pegasus glitch and prevented bosses from dying to zipping. They must have had some ulterior motive too hmmm....

[Dank Sidious]

Kamakeeg eredeti hozzászólása:

Pääpeelsepuuppi eredeti hozzászólása:

Except Capcom is the one company the generally doesn't and has always been very supportive of speedrunning. It's not even much of a conspiracy theory. If anything it makes sense to do. Why wouldn't you want to fix exploits that make the biggest challenge in the game easier when you are selling cheat items yourself. If I was in a position to decide about something like this I would certainly do it.

In what way has Capcom been "supportive" of speedrunners? I think you are taking them not patching every bug and glitch found by speedrunners and equating that for support, which is not what that is. Companies patch out exploits all the time, especially early in its release. Most devs don't want bugs and glitches in their games, but inevitably some get left behind because they are either low priority, simply overlooked, or are too hard to fix and as long as they aren't game breaking, there's not a big need to fix it.

And no the tickets aren't "cheat items", they are unnecessary time saver items for people who have money to spare. I don't think they are good, but most people aren't buying them and it costs Capcom very little to make them available for players they think will buy them. There's literal cheat programs and mods out there that let players do whatever they want. If it was about Capcom's greed, they would have made it so people couldn't mod the game lol

Are you kidding me? Capcom has been supporting speedrunning right form the start with RE games with almost every game in the series rewarding or at least scoring quick playthroughs positively. RE4 Remake has an outright in-game reference to a previous speedrunning glitch from OG RE4 The remake itself has multiple build in section skips for people to discover. Capcom has been one of the most speedrunner friendly companies there are at least with RE franchise.

On DLC tickets: They are cheat items just like good old school cheat codes are cheats. Even the cat ears are just unlockable cheat items. You just have this strange emotional baggage with the word cheat. I don't care that capcom is selling cheat items. I don't care if people use cheats it doesn't affect my enjoyment, but they are still cheat items.

As for Capcom preventing people from modding the game. That's just not something Capcom can do unless they put something like Easy Anti-Cheat on a single player game and start banning people for trainers. Which would be an extremely goofy PR move so they won't.

[Kakihara]

They should make the game crash if you downpatch to further flex on speedrunners.

[Steel]

lmao fixing glitches in the game is literally the #1 purpose of patches
speedrunners won't care, the run just changes and they adapt, or run older versions (which barely anyone does even if they can, people run the latest patch usually)

insane take

[Dank Sidious]

Kakihara eredeti hozzászólása:

Dootslayer eredeti hozzászólása:

Think guys.
Will it affect speedrunners? Of course not, they already know how to play with the door skips and such, so any% with glitches is unchanged.

Their runs are illegitimate.

No they aren't. There are multiple categories for a reason. The category these glitches were used in remain unaffected by any patching.

[Kakihara]

Pääpeelsepuuppi eredeti hozzászólása:

No they aren't. There are multiple categories for a reason. The category these glitches were used remain unaffected by any patching.

Speedrun.com does not get to decide. Whoever gets the fastest time on the new patch is the true king.

[eglepe]

Pääpeelsepuuppi eredeti hozzászólása:

Kakihara eredeti hozzászólása:

Their runs are illegitimate.

No they aren't. There are multiple categories for a reason. The category these glitches were used remain unaffected by any patching.

No, they're illegitimate because this random guy who didn't even S+ the game said so

[Kakihara]

eglepe eredeti hozzászólása:

No, they're illegitimate because this random guy who didn't even S+ the game said so

Bro I already beat the superior OG countless times. Meanwhile you haven't even beaten it on pro HAHA!

[Dank Sidious]

eglepe eredeti hozzászólása:

Pääpeelsepuuppi eredeti hozzászólása:

No they aren't. There are multiple categories for a reason. The category these glitches were used remain unaffected by any patching.

No, they're illegitimate because this random guy who didn't even S+ the game said so

Ah sorry my mistake.

[eglepe]

Kakihara eredeti hozzászólása:

eglepe eredeti hozzászólása:

No, they're illegitimate because this random guy who didn't even S+ the game said so

Bro I already beat the superior OG countless times. Meanwhile you haven't even beaten it on pro HAHA!

The OG was mid, I played it once.