Is this game racist against spanish people?

[DxSpark]

thank you.

[Ronin Gamer]

No thank you. Having the people that I need to mute show themselves so readily is always nice so I can just get rid of them.

[xLargo81]

Originally posted by Juan:

people like you are the reason we can't have anything nice anymore

I agree

[Eric Clapped 'Em]

Originally posted by Chaoslord 87:

Originally posted by SleddingHedgehogs:

Do you know what being racist means? I know it is 2023 and everything is racist, but at least understand what it means to be racist.

So he´s another wannabe SJW or fake activist?

Could be? Who knows. But unless the objective of the game is to kill Spanish people deliberately because they are specifically Spanish, then you can't even bring racism into play. The game takes place in Spain, so who do you expect to see in the game? This same ♥♥♥♥ happened when RE5 took place in Africa and there were - wait for it - Africans in the game.

Just because the things you are killing aren't white doesn't mean the game is racist. For an age where "gamers" clamor for diversity, they sure have a problem when the possible bad guys are diverse. And it isn't even forced diversity because it makes sense that you are fighting Spanish people in Spain.

This whole type of post is just old and tiring. It is like you go to a car dealership and are mad they are trying to sell you cars.

[MarkGuro]

When Luis says: "Sancho Panza", Panza = Paunch... racist against fat people?

[Jvan]

Originally posted by MarkGuro:

When Luis says: "Sancho Panza", Panza = Belly... racist against fat people? :CuriousSion:

bruh LMAO i love you

[Crowder]

No todo lo que no es Americano es racista, guiri

[Deatheye]

Originally posted by DxSpark:

Originally posted by xLargo81:

The enemies are no longer human. Every Resident Evil game is about bioterrorism. So don't worry about racism. Have fun playing.

They are still humans. They are not zombies. They just have parasites in them, like many humans have.

They are not humans, they are Zombies because they don't know what they're doing, they lost their mind.

[DxSpark]

Originally posted by Deatheye:

Originally posted by DxSpark:

They are still humans. They are not zombies. They just have parasites in them, like many humans have.

They are not humans, they are Zombies because they don't know what they're doing, they lost their mind.

Well no, they clearly can speak coherent spanish so they are pretty lucid actually.

[Chaoslord 87]

Originally posted by DxSpark:

Originally posted by Deatheye:

They are not humans, they are Zombies because they don't know what they're doing, they lost their mind.

Well no, they clearly can speak coherent spanish so they are pretty lucid actually.

All the while being controlled by Hosts with dominant plagas.

And their ability to speak is more a facade, to hide what they truly are.
And those in the castle seemed to be even more degraded in terms of speaking.

[Grim Reaper]

I think so, this type of racism is unacceptable in media nowadays and Capcom should be aware of that. "They don't know what they are doing", "they lost their mind", I'm sorry, but this doesn't resemble a Spanish person at all... It's an almost perfect description for Albanians however.

[Xengre]

Originally posted by Deatheye:

Originally posted by DxSpark:

They are still humans. They are not zombies. They just have parasites in them, like many humans have.

They are not humans, they are Zombies because they don't know what they're doing, they lost their mind.

To be fair. Zombies is only a classification of a humanoid's state, similar to African, Asian, infected, healthy, etc. It just makes it easier to identify the nature of that human, but they're still human. Some types of zombiefication could theoretically be reversed such as parasitic, rabies, or depending on technology and science even the more common "dead" zombiefication in some extremes. We actually see some stories have zombies revert to their human intelligence while other zombies in the same story may just be mindless base instinctual monstrosities. The parasitical version is based off a real type of parasite and is, technically, actually human just like if the parasite were to infect an ant or a fish it would still be an ant or fish.

Originally posted by DxSpark:

Originally posted by Kaptain KFC:

I'm not sure you know what racism is. Spanish nationality is not a race.

It's an ethnicity. Only an american or americanist view would say that "spanish is not a race". Only between spanish and portuguese people, there are many differences in terms of ethnicity and phenotype. The "white race" or "black race" doesn't exist, it's meaningless and an americanist and negationist (aka reactionary) view of race. You are basically black because you are not white...It's a social construct almost. But ethnicity is truly are tangible and positive identity, unlike the monolithic and senseless "white people" that americans espouse. In Europe, there are dozens and dozens and dozens of various and unique ethnicities, often many inside of a single country and that's really diversity. Erasing our differences and uniqueness to espouse and uniformist, assimulationist and americanist view of the metling pot of Europe as the "White Race" like they did in the USA is a grotesque proposterous farce.

This is incorrect.

First, it is not related to "American" at all. Ethnicity and race are something understood globally. Being Spanish means you are from Spain or heritage is based upon descent from Spain. Native speaking Spanish means you are Hispanic, for instance. The use of nationality isn't entirely incorrect in general but if we're being technical there is a difference between ethnicity and nationality.

As for it being somehow "american or americanist view"... Race is defined by distinctive physical traits. Due to the increasing spread of races across the globe rather than being centralized in specific regions like they dominantly were for a long time there is much debate globally, not just in the U.S., as to how to properly classify some races such as Black vs African American. Even among Black/African American surveys indicate no specific bias and on a technical front, eventually, African American will simply be factually incorrect due to it being based on physical traits and not region. The same will, one day, eventually apply to Asians, etc. as well.

I get you're clearly prejudiced against the U.S. for some reason which is your own issue, but I do want to point out Europe is actually more whitewashed than the U.S. They haven't even kept proper records of African American populations in their nation nor has it been standard to teach it in their education systems which actually recently resulted in the whole Final Fantasy 16 debacle where dev got hate even though the developer was technically correct and the fans were wrong. For example, most Europeans and until recently even scholars weren't particularly aware of African American relevance in Europe such as early notable names and populations and there is often much confusion about them being involved in medieval period. Back to the FF16 example the developer had commented about why it was mostly white populations in the game and they pointed out not only physically isolated but also impact of medieval where African American's were not dominant in Europe. This incident resulted in a bunch of incorrect criticism and hate towards the developer for a period because of people's ignorance. They would often berate the dev over how medieval did, in fact, have African Americans. This, however, is not actually quite correct and even journalist and other media outlets made such claims. In fact, even Europe academics did not know better until very recently as they're only more recently better developing their understanding of such history that was neglected for so long. There were some African Americans during the medieval but this period lasts from late 5th century to late 15th century... and African American's did not start becoming a significant population at all in Europe until approximately 15th century. This means for the near entirety of medieval period they were not prevalent at all in Europe.

The only reason I point this out is because its crude to be prejudiced kind of like this topic which jumps on an assumption a Japanese game is going to be immediately insulting another demographic. Just to be clear, Europe isn't the only one who has made such mistakes or poorly handled history and prejudices. The U.S., China, Japan, and others are all at fault for such issues and even now they're not fully resolved. It is an area for much growth.

As to your main question? I don't recall seeing any such type of concerns in the original RE4 or the Remake demo, but to be fair I'm also not of that demographic and thus can't fully judge as there may be perspectives I'm not aware of.

[LazyAmerican]

I know RE5 has already been mentioned but....RE5

[Metro]

I hope so, I want to kick, hit and explode the heads of Spanish "zombies" in the game. I just want a remake of Re 5 so I can do the same with poor African zombies

[Deatheye]

Originally posted by Xengre:

Originally posted by Deatheye:

They are not humans, they are Zombies because they don't know what they're doing, they lost their mind.

To be fair. Zombies is only a classification of a humanoid's state, similar to African, Asian, infected, healthy, etc. It just makes it easier to identify the nature of that human, but they're still human. Some types of zombiefication could theoretically be reversed such as parasitic, rabies, or depending on technology and science even the more common "dead" zombiefication in some extremes. We actually see some stories have zombies revert to their human intelligence while other zombies in the same story may just be mindless base instinctual monstrosities. The parasitical version is based off a real type of parasite and is, technically, actually human just like if the parasite were to infect an ant or a fish it would still be an ant or fish.

You're right, technically they are still humans or rather humanoid, but they've lost what makes them an actual human being.

[Xengre]

Originally posted by Deatheye:

Originally posted by Xengre:

To be fair. Zombies is only a classification of a humanoid's state, similar to African, Asian, infected, healthy, etc. It just makes it easier to identify the nature of that human, but they're still human. Some types of zombiefication could theoretically be reversed such as parasitic, rabies, or depending on technology and science even the more common "dead" zombiefication in some extremes. We actually see some stories have zombies revert to their human intelligence while other zombies in the same story may just be mindless base instinctual monstrosities. The parasitical version is based off a real type of parasite and is, technically, actually human just like if the parasite were to infect an ant or a fish it would still be an ant or fish.

You're right, technically they are still humans or rather humanoid, but they've lost what makes them an actual human being.

Well, lost isn't the word I'd quite use. Its more like a hive mind borg kind of thing but with parasites las plagas that seems at times more zombie like and others more human when they're not in their trance. Its an interesting thing but I get where both of you are going. They're a different take on what it means to be a life form, that much is for sure. They're able to think and act but at times they are under a controlled trance. They also see values differently. Its kind of like certain barbaric cultural beliefs vs more modern perspective as one example.