FSR 2 very blurry

[KeFir]

FSR 2 Quality looks worse at 4K than TAA at 1080p. The first game with such a strange work of FSR 2, does it work properly?

[SteveZee]

Originally posted by #JuicyStick#:

@SteveZee

You keep projecting your thoughts.

FSR2 in RedDead2 is not subjectively like TAA, its a fact that it looks almost the same.
It has nothing to do with how you see it individually.

Ergo, the reason it looks so blurry in RE4 Remake is simply because it is a worst implementaion by the Capcom devs.

Your rant about 6000 series is quiet out of place aswell.
Another fact. The top 10 GPUs, used by Steam gamers, which makes up 40% of used GPUs on Steam, is at a lower tier as a 6700xt.

I keep projecting my thoughts? You really have no idea what that word means.

FSR2 physically uses TAA and image history to achieve what it does so it has to be a lot like it. You dont know what you're talking about. They dont look the same because one is an upscale. And it has everything to do with how you see it individually. Some like the "blur" and some dont.

Dont believe m? Like i said, sharpen TAA at native and get back to me.

Sure it may be "worse" here because this is a demo. But FSR2 is still blurrier than native due to the upscale. Sorry but you can't get around that fact.

My rant is something you probably dont understand either so i dont know what you say about it.

Top 10 GPUS that gamers can afford. So what. That doesn't mean they aren't crap to use either way. 6700 xt is bare minimum for 1080 p 60fps in Atomic Hearts. Thats about a crap as it gets within 1 year. And it will get worse to the point where people wont be able to play games at even 60 fps 1080p w/o low settings or FSR. It was a trash generation of GPUs that didn't really do much for the price people paid. Even at MSRP.

[mello]

I'd run Interlaced over FSR if I wanted more frames

[#JuicyStick#]

Originally posted by SteveZee:

My rant is something you probably dont understand

true

[hiczok]

fsr1 ultra quality is a bit better

[SteveZee]

Originally posted by #JuicyStick#:

Originally posted by SteveZee:

My rant is something you probably dont understand

true

I might toss up a couple of pics i took of rdr2 as you got me into it again to check out the new upscaling. It shows pretty well what im talking about w/ the difference between native and FSR2.

[SteveZee]

Originally posted by #JuicyStick#:

Originally posted by SteveZee:

My rant is something you probably dont understand

true

https://imgur.com/a/tQa0WBb

3 sets of pics that i think shows the difference. The tops should be native (the lowest FPS) and the bottom is FSR2. Note the clarity differences between the two. The first set especially the plaid blanket on the cot. The native image is sharper.

Now you may not find you care about either. Which is fine. That would be the subjective part i talked about, but the difference between the two are real and apparent in the pictures and some people do care about image clarity a lot. I am one of those people.

[#JuicyStick#]

Tbh i see only such a miniscule difference. So miniscule, that your rant seems even more psychotic than before.
When you have a GPU that can game on 4k, good for you, people in mentioned GPU class (Steam servey top etc) are not 4k GPUs.
Like i said, you are ranting about FSR2 but you could already play all those games in 4k native anyways.
Funny enough, my first post was the example layed out in perfect detail (to try to push past 60fps) and you still choose to rant at me and now you moan about how your 4k native looks better than FSR, all that while having above 80fps, which shows that you could perfectly well play at 4k native anyways. Get the ♥♥♥♥ outta here you entitled little beetch.

[SteveZee]

Originally posted by #JuicyStick#:

Tbh i see only such a miniscule difference. So miniscule, that your rant seems even more psychotic than before.
When you have a GPU that can game on 4k, good for you, people in mentioned GPU class (Steam servey top etc) are not 4k GPUs.
Like i said, you are ranting about FSR2 but you could already play all those games in 4k native anyways.
Funny enough, my first post was the example layed out in perfect detail (to try to push past 60fps) and you still choose to rant at me and now you moan about how your 4k native looks better than FSR, all that while having above 80fps, which shows that you could perfectly well play at 4k native anyways. Get the ♥♥♥♥ outta here you entitled little beetch.

Heres another one. If you cant see it here you need glasses. Its plain as day the sharpness differences between the two. I set the game to FSR and put the sharpening slider all the way up, then switched it back to native and did the same for TAA sharpening. There is clearly far more detail in the native image. You would have to be absolutely blind to not see it. That or your just willfully ignorant and you choose to not see it.

https://imgur.com/a/JvrjFWV

[djcarey]

It's blury because you got film grain and other stuff on.. LOL DUHHH DUUHHHH

[Grr. [SG CMD] Majah Lazah]

Originally posted by Egor179:

FSR 2 Quality looks worse at 4K than TAA at 1080p. The first game with such a strange work of FSR 2, does it work properly?

If you your GPU can ACTUALLY do 4K, you don't need FSR at all, or DLSS.

[KeFir]

Originally posted by Grr. SG CMD Majah Lazah:

Originally posted by Egor179:

FSR 2 Quality looks worse at 4K than TAA at 1080p. The first game with such a strange work of FSR 2, does it work properly?

If you your GPU can ACTUALLY do 4K, you don't need FSR at all, or DLSS.

DSR actually outputs a picture in 4K, scaling under my monitor, but I also need temporary technologies to get rid of flicker, and this is only possible with TAA / FSR 2 / DLSS 2, you can scale at least up to 32K, but flicker will remain.

[SteveZee]

Originally posted by #JuicyStick#:

Tbh i see only such a miniscule difference. So miniscule, that your rant seems even more psychotic than before.
When you have a GPU that can game on 4k, good for you, people in mentioned GPU class (Steam servey top etc) are not 4k GPUs.
Like i said, you are ranting about FSR2 but you could already play all those games in 4k native anyways.
Funny enough, my first post was the example layed out in perfect detail (to try to push past 60fps) and you still choose to rant at me and now you moan about how your 4k native looks better than FSR, all that while having above 80fps, which shows that you could perfectly well play at 4k native anyways. Get the ♥♥♥♥ outta here you entitled little beetch.

Also, i dont mean only 4k looks better than FSR alone. ALL NATIVE RESOLUTIONS (including 1080p) look better than FSR2 because all native resolutions have more image detail than an upscale from a lower resolution. There will always be, by definition, slightly more blur in the upscale than the native image (i show this easily in the IMGUR i linked you). The biggest mistake people make is not sharpening the native TAA image and comparing it to the upscaled and sharpened image. Its not apples to apples.

Whether or not you see a difference that is enough for you to care about is up to you. As i said, some people care and some dont and find FSR just as playable. That's why i said, "its subjective" how good it looks. Some like the blur and others like more sharpened detail (or at least as sharp as native will get you).

Now about the 6000 series. It is becoming the floor GPU model requirement in several games so far within a 1-2 years of release, my point was your 6700 xt isn't going to have the longevity you think it will. Unless you're interested in playing older titles exclusively. Again for the price most people paid its not worth it (nor was the 6800 xt) for maybe 1-2 years-ish for the performance, even at msrp.

[kiteless 凧無し]

Stop using upscallers

They want to normalise it because they have 4k monitors and tvs to sell you but the average consumer is too dumb to realise their consoles aren’t outputting a native 4k image on their brand new 4k tv that they were deceived into buying

These gpu manufacturers are all in cahoots with the tv and monitor companies

[KeFir]

Originally posted by kiteless 凧無し:

Stop using upscallers

They want to normalise it because they have 4k monitors and tvs to sell you but the average consumer is too dumb to realise their consoles aren’t outputting a native 4k image on their brand new 4k tv that they were deceived into buying

These gpu manufacturers are all in cahoots with the tv and monitor companies

And what about consoles?

[SteveZee]

Originally posted by kiteless 凧無し:

Stop using upscallers

They want to normalise it because they have 4k monitors and tvs to sell you but the average consumer is too dumb to realise their consoles aren’t outputting a native 4k image on their brand new 4k tv that they were deceived into buying

These gpu manufacturers are all in cahoots with the tv and monitor companies

Well the disconnect is in processing power. 4k simply isn't easy enough to render to make it a mass consumer item on the low end. We seem to be stuck because of the limits of silicon and nanometer processes. I agree they are trying to normalize it and it sucks for sure. Only constant push back will move them in another direction.