Revolvers of the game

[Gehennasfire]

I am interested in the games firearms. The revolvers are called the ranger, the six-shooter, and the quick shooter. I assume these are real, but if not, what are their real life counterparts or inspirations? And are they portrayed accurately?

[his1roguenation]

Six-Shooter: Colt Single Action Army
Ranger: Colt Walker
Quickshooter: Smith & Wesson Model 3/ Schofield
Rifle: Winchester Model 1892

The portrayal is overall rather accurate, but the Ranger is a made up cartridge conversion of the Walker. There are rl cartridge conversions of the Colt revolver (and its improved subsequent releases) available for purchase, and they also look pretty much exactly like the original, but having a cartridge firing Colt Walker is an anachronism.

[Gehennasfire]

Wow. What about the shotguns? Is the sawed off version the same as the full one?

[his1roguenation]

Quoting the wiki on the shotgun:

In Call of Juarez: Gunslinger, the Shotgun is said to be a Whitney 10 gauge shotgun (which the real-life Bob Ollinger actually had). However, the model is based off a Remington Model 1889.

The sawed-off variant is obviously the same gun.

[Gehennasfire]

Thanks! Can you explain cartridge conversion?

[his1roguenation]

The original Colt Walker from 1847 didn't fire bullets, it was a black powder percussion/cap and ball revolver, firing lead balls. A cartridge conversion variant is able to fire bullets (all-in-one cartridges) like any other modern weapon.

[Gehennasfire]

Thanks for your replies!

[vee-kay]

@his1roguenation, thanks for the awesome info and clarifications. Kudos!

[Zagorith14]

I realize this thread is old, but I'm going to add some history too.

The "Six-Shooter" is most likely the Colt Peacemaker aka the Single Action Army or SAA, developed by Samuel Colt. It's one of the most famous revolvers of the old west. Commonly chambered in .45 Colt or .45 Long Colt. A very common pistol caliber during the old west.

The "Quick Shooter" is the Schofield revolver, invented by John Schofield, a US Army General, chambered in .45 Schofield. A slightly less powerful but far more controllable round than the .45 Colt. It's break action design allowed for faster reloading as well as easier reloading on horseback, which was a major point on the design that General Schofield wanted.

The Ranger is likely a cartridge conversion of the old Colt Walker pistol. The pistol was massive and fired a very powerful .44 ball. It was developed by Samuel Colt and was a percussion pistol, meaning it had to be reloaded with black powder, a lead ball, and a percussion primer after all 6 rounds were fired. Mr. Walker was a Texas Ranger and need a pistol that was powerful and could be fired multiple times. Hence the Colt Walker was born. I assume that the name "Ranger" was given to it by the devs due to it's history of being designed for the Texas Rangers at the time. Fun fact: Due to the increased reload time of percussion firearms, Walker decided to order several extra revolver cylinders for himself and his men. So instead of taking time to reload all 6 chambers in a gun fight against charging enemies such as Native American warriors, they just had to quickly switch the cylinder from their pocket and it would be ready to fire again. Saving 10's of precious seconds.

All in all, I would say yes. The devs did a fairly good job in keeping loyal to the original firearm's designs. The only issue I would add is that sometimes, when firing the pistols rapidly, it makes it seem like the pistols were double action (pull the trigger without cocking the hammer first). This is completely incorrect. None of these pistols were double action. Likely this addition was due to the game's fast paced nature. Beyond that, it's not a bad representation.

[Gehennasfire]

hey thanks for the response!

[Waiting to Visit Japan (^.-)]

Originally posted by zagorith14:

I realize this thread is old, but I'm going to add some history too.

Cool. Thanks.

[Zagorith14]

You got it, my dudes.

[mecs]

The six shooter and the Ranger are real. Although I'm not sure the so-called Ranger was actually known by that name. But several versions of the weapon with that design were manufactures over time. The six shooter, affectionately known as "the peacemaker" and "the gun that won the west" was created by Sam Colt, and changed the whole ecology of the wild west. People no longer had to stuff a wad and load a flint every time they fired a shot. The six shooter could fire six times, and was very quick and easy to reload compared to the flintlocks and other single shot handguns. The favorite long weapon in my collection is the lever action 30/30. I the others are the Colt .45 , and the .44 magnum , my personal favorite to shoot. The six shooter and the repeating rifle were both called "equalizers". I notice a previous post pretty well outlines the j Ranger, and also includes some possible source of its name. It also points out another huge advantage of the Colt Peacemaker over the Ranger six shooter, that of firing the other new invention of the time that made such an impact on the efficiency of the period weapons. That is, the self contained cartridge and projectile,. That single invention made possible both the six shooters, and the repeating rifle.