Any way to force transparency anti aliasing? (SSAA, SGSSAA, etc)

[PorcusGrunzus]

I already tried forcing it with Nvidia Inspector but didn't do anything ingame. I also disabled the default treat override setting in inspector but still doesn't seem to do anything ingame. SGSSAA might work but I dont know compability ID.

Anybody knows? The ingame AA is only normal MSAA (Low=2x, Medium=4x and High=8x it seems), which works really good but not on transparent objects such as foliage.

[ExTaZzY]

Try to set in the config file

[PorcusGrunzus]

Originally posted by IIIExTaZzYIII:

Try to set in the config file

Has only lines for ingame AA / MSAA.

[vlad[54rus]]

Ingame fullscene supersampling can be controlled by gfx_fSubPixelPrecision console command, if you still need it.

[PorcusGrunzus]

I finished my playthrough but thanks for that information. Will be helpful for others and me in the future.

What do I have to write after the command? 1, 2, 3? Or the number for the amount of times like 2x, 4x, etc?

[vlad[54rus]]

Originally posted by PorcusGrunzus:

I finished my playthrough but thanks for that information. Will be helpful for others and me in the future.

What do I have to write after the command? 1, 2, 3? Or the number for the amount of times like 2x, 4x, etc?

Any float value. >1 — supersampling. <1 — undersampling. 2 will give you 4x SSAA.

[BONKERS]

You can easily force Transparency AA in Nvidia Profile Inspector but you have to disable the Anti Aliasing Behavior Flag first. Or else all overrides are ignored.

You don't need compatibility bits to force SGSSAA in SSII.
https://www.screenshotcomparison.com/comparison/3413
I downloaded the game again to restest just to be sure. But it still works just fine
https://www.screenshotcomparison.com/comparison/3414

[vlad[54rus]]

Originally posted by BONKERS:

You can easily force Transparency AA in Nvidia Profile Inspector but you have to disable the Anti Aliasing Behavior Flag first. Or else all overrides are ignored.

You don't need compatibility bits to force SGSSAA in SSII.
https://www.screenshotcomparison.com/comparison/3413
I downloaded the game again to restest just to be sure. But it still works just fine
https://www.screenshotcomparison.com/comparison/3414

Why force AA in control panel when i already posted proper solution?

[PorcusGrunzus]

Originally posted by BONKERS:

You can easily force Transparency AA in Nvidia Profile Inspector but you have to disable the Anti Aliasing Behavior Flag first. Or else all overrides are ignored.

You don't need compatibility bits to force SGSSAA in SSII.
https://www.screenshotcomparison.com/comparison/3413
I downloaded the game again to restest just to be sure. But it still works just fine
https://www.screenshotcomparison.com/comparison/3414

I actually tried this, but it had no effect on the game.

[BONKERS]

Originally posted by vlad54rus:

Originally posted by BONKERS:

You can easily force Transparency AA in Nvidia Profile Inspector but you have to disable the Anti Aliasing Behavior Flag first. Or else all overrides are ignored.

You don't need compatibility bits to force SGSSAA in SSII.
https://www.screenshotcomparison.com/comparison/3413
I downloaded the game again to restest just to be sure. But it still works just fine
https://www.screenshotcomparison.com/comparison/3414

Why force AA in control panel when i already posted proper solution?

In game SSAA is adequate. But the resolve function used for downsampling is not adequate. Anything other than Subpix = 2 results in reverse anti-aliasing. Making the image more aliasied than without any AA at all. https://www.screenshotcomparison.com/comparison/3508
SGSSAA can have higher quality than Subpix=2 with 8xSGSSAA but costs more performance and is slightly softer (But has much less aliasing left). You can make the image sharper with a driver LOD adjustment or by setting the in game LOD to a negative value.
They are all valid choices. SGSSAA looks better in motion though.
4xSGSSAA with an LOD adjustment is similar to Subpix=2 but is slightly better quality and handles specular and shader aliasing better.

Comparisons:

https://www.screenshotcomparison.com/comparison/3505
https://www.screenshotcomparison.com/comparison/3506
https://www.screenshotcomparison.com/comparison/3507
https://www.screenshotcomparison.com/comparison/3509
https://www.screenshotcomparison.com/comparison/3510

Originally posted by PorcusGrunzus:

Originally posted by BONKERS:

You can easily force Transparency AA in Nvidia Profile Inspector but you have to disable the Anti Aliasing Behavior Flag first. Or else all overrides are ignored.

You don't need compatibility bits to force SGSSAA in SSII.
https://www.screenshotcomparison.com/comparison/3413
I downloaded the game again to restest just to be sure. But it still works just fine
https://www.screenshotcomparison.com/comparison/3414

I actually tried this, but it had no effect on the game.

Post your inspector settings. It should look like this
http://u.cubeupload.com/MrBonk/ins.jpg

[PorcusGrunzus]

I recently played the game again and anti aliasing still didnt work with inspector, also when using the exact same settings like BONKERS.

However, I had this problem in multiple games and tracked it down to Microsoft breaking Anti Aliasing with some Windows 10 update. Not sure if it was for all fullscreen applications or DX9.

But luckily there is a way to bypass this problem. Use the AA compability ID "0x004412C1". This works on almost all DX9 games I tried. Not sure why exactly, maybe that is just the generic ID for DX9 render compatibility but whatever. SGSSAA and other supersampling options work just dandy with that ID.

[PorcusGrunzus]

You just change the Antialiasing compatibility ID to the one I mentioned before inside Nvidia Inspector. After that just change the Antialiasing Behaviour Flags to None and then Antialiasing Mode to Override. After this comes your setting, 8xSQ works just dandy. If you have no idea what Nvidia Inspector is, you should probably look up some other guides.

[Kain]

Originally posted by PorcusGrunzus:

I recently played the game again and anti aliasing still didnt work with inspector, also when using the exact same settings like BONKERS.

However, I had this problem in multiple games and tracked it down to Microsoft breaking Anti Aliasing with some Windows 10 update. Not sure if it was for all fullscreen applications or DX9.

But luckily there is a way to bypass this problem. Use the AA compability ID "0x004412C1". This works on almost all DX9 games I tried. Not sure why exactly, maybe that is just the generic ID for DX9 render compatibility but whatever. SGSSAA and other supersampling options work just dandy with that ID.

Thank you, this helps!

[Myth[Alex]]

Originally posted by Kain:

Originally posted by PorcusGrunzus:

I recently played the game again and anti aliasing still didnt work with inspector, also when using the exact same settings like BONKERS.

However, I had this problem in multiple games and tracked it down to Microsoft breaking Anti Aliasing with some Windows 10 update. Not sure if it was for all fullscreen applications or DX9.

But luckily there is a way to bypass this problem. Use the AA compability ID "0x004412C1". This works on almost all DX9 games I tried. Not sure why exactly, maybe that is just the generic ID for DX9 render compatibility but whatever. SGSSAA and other supersampling options work just dandy with that ID.

Thank you, this helps!

Where exactly do we have to insert that AA compatibility ID ? would you kindly give me a helping hand with this?

[PorcusGrunzus]

You need a tool named Nvidia Inspector. Once you installed or downloaded it, look in the upper left corner where profiles is written. Select a game (Serious Sam II) and paste the compatiblity ID in the Antialiasing compatibility field. Then scroll down to 3 - Antialiasing and change the Behaviour Flags to none, mode to override any application setting and finally pick the setting 8xSQ but you can also try SGSSAA out. More indepth tutorials for this stuff are on Google. Just google "Nvidia Inspector SGSSAA ID guides" or smth like that. Oh, and you need a Nvidia card. This doesnt work with others.

[Myth[Alex]]

Originally posted by PorcusGrunzus:

You need a tool named Nvidia Inspector. Once you installed or downloaded it, look in the upper left corner where profiles is written. Select a game (Serious Sam II) and paste the compatiblity ID in the Antialiasing compatibility field. Then scroll down to 3 - Antialiasing and change the Behaviour Flags to none, mode to override any application setting and finally pick the setting 8xSQ but you can also try SGSSAA out. More indepth tutorials for this stuff are on Google. Just google "Nvidia Inspector SGSSAA ID guides" or smth like that. Oh, and you need a Nvidia card. This doesnt work with others.

Clear and concise instructions are what I needed, thank you. Yes, I do own a Nvidia GPU. I am grateful for your help.