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"We women don't need to think, the General does it for us... 'We will be relentless and fanatical. We will not ask for ability or intelligence. Here, no one owns the truth except Perón, and before supporting a candidate —no matter their rank— we will demand a blank… a blank check of loyalty to Perón, which we will fill with their extermination if they are not man enough to fulfill it.
'And we, my General, in the intimacy of our Argentine Peronist women's hearts, know the responsibility we bear in this historic moment. And we are ready, our civilian armies of women are trained and indoctrinated to teach and instill in the child that the soul of the nation, before it is formed in schools, is shaped by Argentine mothers in the cradle, teaching them to love Perón before blessing their own names.
'I feel that Perón is incomparable. That Perón is God to us, and I say it with all the voice I have and all the words I know. And when my voice and words run out, I will say it anyway. 'We come to be the... the missionaries of the General, as the shirtless ones say, and where there is a missionary, my General, there is a woman. And when women love, we know how to love, my General. 'We women are passionate, my General. We women are fanatical, my General. And the Peronist Party, I honestly confess, is fanatical. And, by being fanatical, it shows that it has embraced a great cause. Only great causes have fanatics; otherwise, there would be neither saints nor heroes, and we are fanatics of Perón.
'We do not fight with anyone except with those who kick for the other goal. Because we cannot, in the name of false unity, do what they did to Catherine... Catherine "the Great" of Russia, with Potemkin, a cardboard house. We will not make fireworks. If there is someone who kicks for the other goal, they will have the Peronist women’s party against them. 'Test us whenever you want, my General. Argentine women love you so much and are willing to do anything with Perón, and the General is so great that, without even being tested, we are already willing to lose, my General. And we will preach about the moral values and Peronist virtues of General Perón, but with practice, my General. We will be loyal until the end, whatever the cost, and no matter who falls.'"
Peronism its just a cancer we still suffer on Argentina. And she being the leader of Argentina in this game its just a plain insult to our country and history
on one hand, i want to say thanks for educating us OP and Reaper.
but on the other hand after reading wikipedia article and other things i'm reading online, i just hope that it isn't a smear campaign because she appears to be polarizing. it's easy to point out things done wrong (rather than what was done right) for anyone who has been in the public eye that long. i'm curious to know what other Argentinians think.
it would be nice if OP and Reaper would try to be more representative of what other people think, outside of people who think like them.
If devs consider to replace her, I hope they replace her with someone unique to these types of games rather than just shoehorning another military or state leader (unless there is good justification).
on Argentina all important figures of our history will have a miltiary background on more or less degree because we fought or way to the independency, soo everyone at that time had military training, And this dont make it less interesting or lame. its our history
there is a lot of propaganda about the Peron. imagine that Eva peron has a whole musical that its just plain propaganda. there is multiples sources and books that shows the ♥♥♥♥ up thing peronism did. Wikipedia isnt the best source of information. but it highly doubt you can find any english source talking about all the dark part of the Peronism
that's just your opinion, that's not the truth. it may be an opinion shared by a lot of people but at the end of the day it's opinion. history is literally told by people in charge and people who want it to be. things get left out, things get made more important than other things, etc.
look i get it. it must be exciting to have your country included in a game (when it's not often included in these kinds of games) but then disappointing when who ends up representing it is a leader that you (and a lot of other Argentinians) don't like.
so hopefully devs can add more leaders besides her in the future to make you and other players like you happy.
If you want to know what Argentinians think of the legacy of Peron, I sincerely suggest that you learn about who was voted in at the conclusion of the last presidential election of Argentina and why. You will see the outcome and clear-cut statistics of what Argentinian people think of everything Peron and his wife stood for and the consequences of that.
The fact remains that the American developers of this game should not have chosen Eva Peron as a 'leader' - among the many good people they chose to be leaders in this game such as scientists and poets. Eva Peron belongs to the modern-era and her inclusion when she is still such a divisive figure, one whose legacy still affects politics today, is a very bad decision and should be reviewed. I completely agree with your concluding sentiments.
The game apparently will have modding tools so just throw Eva in the bin & replace her when the game releases lol. ARA didn't want to shy away from the bad parts of history, so why should you. There's likely a reason for their choice as every other leader seems deliberately chosen.
there is a key difference. all of those you name and i name are OLD AF.
Eva Peron its RECENT HISTORY FOR US, literally a lot of alive members of my family (father, grandfather, grandmother, etc) lived her mandate with her husband
and as i said on other messages you cant put her on the same scale of relevance as the other historical figures of our history
literally the last goverment of here was peronist and left the country destroyed, and the recent election the peronist candidate lose with 44,3% over 55,69%. most argentinians reject peronism, its a pretty big cancer on our country and Eva being portrayed as the leader its literally a insult to our country and our history
Also Eva Perón was alive during the time of Mao, Stalin & Hitler. They are not old, infact Stalin & Mao were around more recently. You have no idea of history in general, yet preach the same exact statements over and over to try and push a narrative despite the history of Eva, Juan & Perónism being publically available information.
You want her out specfically for your own political reasons, and not because the actual history says she was bad. (It says mostly the opposite, Perónism only really manifests itself today due to Juan Perón's terrible policy of isolation, which stopped foreign investment period).
stop reading propaganda and educate yourself about our history instead of trying to give me lessons about the history of my country
also im talking about the game. i dont See Stalin, Mao or Hitler on the list of leaders of the game
I read the full wikipedia on Eva Perón & Perónism, both her & her husband were syndicalists whose only negatives to Argentinians having been from Economic Inflation & Isolation. Otherwise they raised the standard of living for all workers in the country massively.
Both Reaper & Ba$ed are seemingly Anti-Perónists who are upset with her inclusion, purely for political reasons, and not because they were evil, genocidal, or committed atrocities against mankind. Neither deserve to be on a list of the worst people in human history.
They're divisive for being people that tried to incorporate socialism-adjacent ideas & raise the standards of living for the working class in a capitalist society, and for economic instability brought by Perón's obsessive nature of isolation from the rest of the world. Both times he has been in power, have been ended by US-backed coups that display a LOT of similarities to all the US backed coups in LATAM against socialist or otherwise non-aligned nations. Which is a huge part of American-Imperialism in general, taking out any alternatives to capitalism as it threatens the status quo of the US.