I don't understand trading!

[Arvid]

What do I get when others trade with me?

Or does it only make sense if you want something from the others?
(Or just positive diplomacy points?)

[Cryten]

You get the ability to gain supplies from the person you have a trade agreement with, and they you. Based on total merchants.

Go to your diplomatic screen with the person you have an agreement with, click view trade agreement. There you can select resources to import with your merchants.

[VDmitry]

You can get some resources from them. They can get some resources from you.

It's that simple. Limited by number of merchants you have and connection (roads etc).

It's interesting how different games implement the international trade. The actual raw benefit is access to some resources which you don't have. But to get them you have to sell something of yours (so it's basically exchange). This might be Gold, but not mandatory.

[Arvid]

@Cryten: Thanks, but I didn't want to know how, I know that!

So if I ONLY get something, I don't pay for it, right?

If I ONLY give something, I don't get gold for it either?

[mr_root]

Originally posted by VDmitry:

You can get some resources from them. They can get some resources from you.

It's that simple. Limited by number of merchants you have and connection (roads etc).

It's interesting how different games implement the international trade. The actual raw benefit is access to some resources which you don't have. But to get them you have to sell something of yours (so it's basically exchange). This might be Gold, but not mandatory.

Is it possible to see the CPU choice of goods i have less?

[VDmitry]

You can see what you get and what they get. All is free, merchants do the job.

Likely no one is loosing anything, but I can't confirm that or explain.

[Arvid]

Can no one answer my last two questions directly?

@VDmitry: But I think that what the taker gets is missing for me (I was wondering why there wasn't more of something even though I produced it and didn't use it)!

So I don't get anything from trading unless I want something, right?

Can one of the developers answer that???

@mr_root: Yes, the second tab in diplomacy.

[martinolund]

As far as I can tell the trading is a bartering system. Will the game even let you confirm trade routes without you selecting a resource or a good?

[VDmitry]

Yes, you don't get something until you choose something.

[EddyVegas]

where do i see what i'm giving away? because all i see is the other civ giving me stuff for free.

[The Former]

Comprehensive explanation:

When you enter a trade agreement, you can choose goods to gain from your partner, and they from you. The goods you can claim are based on the number of merchants you have (one per merchant, spread across all your trade agreements). You gain these at no cost to your empire. The goods they choose to get from you aren’t something you can control, but it doesn’t actually cost you any of that good to provide it. It just adds “production” of that good to your trading partner while you’re trading.

Originally posted by EddyVegas:

where do i see what i'm giving away? because all i see is the other civ giving me stuff for free.

I believe it’s visible in the diplomacy tab at the top right, when you click on your partner in the drop-down menu.

[EddyVegas]

"You gain these at no cost to your empire. The goods they choose to get from you aren’t something you can control, but it doesn’t actually cost you any of that good to provide it."

so i *am* getting free stuff. that's not really 'trading', according to my definition of it. so i guess that's why they don't bother showing you 'what you're giving away', since it doesn't matter, does it?

[Aio]

yea it should more like if A is getting resource B shhould get money to feel well or the question do i want to trade the iron wich i found or must i cancel the diplomatic relation to save them for my early swordmen supriority. At the moment it is like giveing the mafia a mission to smuggle xD and my human is giving the same job to get exactly the same stuff in same amount of rounds back :D :D :D , it´s like we trade iron for iron and horse for horse when its more thhan the amount of 1 of each

[kingofpain]

funny system

[VDmitry]

Originally posted by EddyVegas:

"You gain these at no cost to your empire. The goods they choose to get from you aren’t something you can control, but it doesn’t actually cost you any of that good to provide it."

so i *am* getting free stuff. that's not really 'trading', according to my definition of it. so i guess that's why they don't bother showing you 'what you're giving away', since it doesn't matter, does it?

You don't get it for free. You exchange it. The game shows what but on different screen.

[Filo90]

Originally posted by VDmitry:

Originally posted by EddyVegas:

"You gain these at no cost to your empire. The goods they choose to get from you aren’t something you can control, but it doesn’t actually cost you any of that good to provide it."

so i *am* getting free stuff. that's not really 'trading', according to my definition of it. so i guess that's why they don't bother showing you 'what you're giving away', since it doesn't matter, does it?

You don't get it for free. You exchange it. The game shows what but on different screen.

you get it for free, but they also get free stuff from you....