Wolfenstein: The New Order

Wolfenstein: The New Order

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Bjørn 2014 年 5 月 8 日 上午 12:25
Wolfenstein was the first FPS?
I read on the store page (or saw it mentioned in one of the trailers) that the first Wolfenstein game was the first FPS game.

Wasn't Doom the first one? I remember when it first came out (Doom), and how in awe I was when I first saw it on my brother in law's computer.

Anyway, I liked the other Wolfenstein games, so I'll probably go for this. The 'train to Berlin' trailer got my attention :)
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Saza 2014 年 5 月 17 日 下午 5:31 
引用自 Venomousbeetle
Is there a source port for wolfenstein 3D that helps the controls to feel more like DOOM/DOOM 2? Or a mod for DOOM that recreates it accurately?

ECWolf is a really good source port.
最後修改者:Saza; 2014 年 5 月 17 日 下午 5:31
OJ191 2014 年 5 月 17 日 下午 5:44 
引用自 KevinsGaming
with all due respect, the games not even out yet. With most games, you don't need a mod to remap keys, if thats what yoiu mean.

do you even read or do you just instantly spew out all the ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ that pops into your head
Dr. Ricky 2014 年 5 月 17 日 下午 8:19 
Sure is Reddit in here
Tuskin 2014 年 5 月 17 日 下午 8:23 
引用自 KevinsGaming
with all due respect, the games not even out yet. With most games, you don't need a mod to remap keys, if thats what yoiu mean.

He was talking about Wolf3D not the new game.
KCChiefsFan 2014 年 5 月 19 日 上午 2:16 
引用自 Wind Nvidia 3D
引用自 John Martin
Might be a little off-topic, but I think the reason that so many games were referred to as 'Doom-clones' and Doom and Wolf3D being considered as the 1sts (although they weren't) was primarily due to the public impact and response to those 2 games. ID's games before Doom & Wolf3D had sold good numbers, but nothing in the neighborhood of the numbers that Wolf3D, and later Doom did.

Computer Gaming World (now defunct) at one time listed Doom as the most downloaded shareware program out there, and this was during the time with we were still dealing with 28.8k modems, and bulletin boards (BBSs were ID's main distribution).

Also, Columbine was right after Doom was released, and all the noise that was made over the boys having played Doom for hours at a time just fueled the flames and the appitite for the game.

All the games that have been mentioned in this thread have had their impact on the industry and in gaming in general, but I think it is safe to say that without Wolf3D, and then Doom, possibly the gaming landscape might be quite different from what it now is.

(And yes, I remember 3 1/2 in disks, 5 1/4 in disks, DOS, even having to configure my autoexec.bat and config.sys files to get games to work!)

format c:\*.*

Columbine was actually just around UT99 and Quake 3; they just used Doom in the media as a blamer. Columbine High School massacre was a school shooting which occurred on April 20, 1999 - as I believe one of the shooters made Doom II maps for deathmatch?


Yeah, I couldn't remember exactly which one was released then, but in the book "Masters of Doom" which is the story about John Carmack, and John Romero, they mention Columbine and all the outcry from the media focusing on Doom and the other 'muder simulations' as according to that FL district attorney who was on the news all the time. (forgot his name, purposely. :) )

Still, Doom opened the floodgates, and then the games that followed just ran with that idea and took it even further.

Bottom line, in the history of computer games, ID software, and John Carmack definitely will go down as one of the leading reasons for FPS games.
WinD 2014 年 5 月 19 日 下午 9:00 
Not even FPS :D - Video Gaming in general; the technology he created allowed for every genre to use Full 3D worlds (think of N64 Mario; it had Sprites all over the place despite supposdly being fully 3D - Quake 1 had ZERO sprites) - the evolution of Shadows and Lighting that finally hit a gold mine landmark with doom 3 having the lighting and shadows that every game today uses the algorythm along with their engine and art design to create realism; - Quake 1 with Dedicated servers still a standard today ; - taking the risk of a MP only Shooter in 99' - Creating PC Side Scrolling (the perceived at the time "Reason why PC gaming would never be big" - as Nintendo NES was filled with sidescrolling games and the PC couldn't side scroll; Carmack figured it out in one night and spent the night doing an exact remake of the first level or so of Mario 3? - eventually they rebuilt the ENTIRE game with their /own/ assets and sent it to Nintendo in hopes they would be interested in signing a deal and distribute it to PC and id would have gotten insane amounts of money right away; (it was identical looking but with more clarity to the Mario whic hI am speaking of; I believe it was 2 or 3) - Nintendo declined and Commander Keen was born etc

I am rushing and left out endless highlights of why Carmack is more than just FPS as its now midnight and that means HOLY WTF WOLFENSTEIND JDGSOGDSIGsd\
nightquaker 2014 年 5 月 19 日 下午 9:02 
Maze War was the first FPS
Flamingheron 2014 年 5 月 19 日 下午 9:04 
引用自 Grumpysaurus Rex
That awkward moment when you were a kid and your father gift you a diskette (yes looks like the save file icon) with Wolfenstein 3D in 1992

Damn I'm old ...

No you're old when you used to play on cassette and cartridge games were only just coming out when you were still a kid.
最後修改者:Flamingheron; 2014 年 5 月 19 日 下午 9:05
Bjørn 2014 年 5 月 19 日 下午 10:51 
引用自 Stretchy
引用自 Grumpysaurus Rex
That awkward moment when you were a kid and your father gift you a diskette (yes looks like the save file icon) with Wolfenstein 3D in 1992

Damn I'm old ...

No you're old when you used to play on cassette and cartridge games were only just coming out when you were still a kid.

Hehe my first computer was a Commodore VIC-20 which I got in 1981 when I was 11. It had a cartridge slot in the back, and one of the games I had was 'Radar Rat Race', and it's repeating melody drove my mother nuts. The cartridges were huge, like a VHS tape or so.

But yes, most saving and loading of data was done using a tape recorder and cassettes :)

Anyway, thanks again for all the replies to my little question. It's been fun revisiting all that gaming history.
Morgan 2014 年 5 月 19 日 下午 11:35 
There was also a game named Corporation that was released onthe ST/Amiga in 1990 and a game called Total Eclipse back in 1988 there may well be other ones.
-Zimbi 2014 年 5 月 19 日 下午 11:40 
引用自 Psilio
I read on the store page (or saw it mentioned in one of the trailers) that the first Wolfenstein game was the first FPS game.

Wasn't Doom the first one? I remember when it first came out (Doom), and how in awe I was when I first saw it on my brother in law's computer.

Anyway, I liked the other Wolfenstein games, so I'll probably go for this. The 'train to Berlin' trailer got my attention :)

History of id software

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JCafnH_eisA
OOOMMMGGGG I remember comander keen haha that game was epicness.
sere 2014 年 5 月 19 日 下午 11:55 
when a ♥♥♥♥ company like bethesda/zenimax buys YOUR company you can kiss your reputation and legendary history goodbye. they forced rage's release before the scripting language was even finished for idtech5. there was absolutely no "done when it's done" discipline or polish. a criminally induced premature birth just like ZENI did to SD with BRINK. i guess you could call them late term abortions but zeni/beth is just evil evil evil. they so desperately want to be in that magic golden 1.5 year dev cycle of regurgitated annual hit franchise like cod and ea sports just without the cod and ea sports.. they have ruined a few studios and kept their promise to release elder scrolls with epic bugs.

wolf 3d was the first fps because that is what the collectige gaming conscious and collective gaming memory has deemed the first fps. you did not use the term, fps, before wolf3d. we use the term now, almost incorrectly, to bestow partial credit on games that, ahead of time, achieved or managed what wolf3d did but only less-so and we do this for considerations of fairness in posterity.
最後修改者:sere; 2014 年 5 月 20 日 上午 12:00
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