The ending ruined this game for me.

[beanmilk]

I loved the game, but after the solid last boss,
SPOILER ALERT


He was in a mech suit, he climbs out after you beat him, and he won't surrender so you go to stab him, he pulls out a gernade, pulls the pin. He was holding it for 5 seconds, I don't understand why William (THE MAIN CHARACTER NAME IS WILLIAM) didn't run away, he had plenty of time to run away from the gernade! Any way, after the explosion. Your legs are broke, you crawl up to the window, and see your team helicopter with your girl friend leaving you. And you tell your team to drop the nuke on the base? And it ends RIGHT THERE.
We didn't even get to see the nuke explode, this game has so many ♥♥♥♥ blocks, it ends a scene when you're going to chainsaw a nazi, starts a scene when you are about the use something cool.

I was having so much fun with the game, but the ending ruined it all.

[Zenith]

Yeah, pretty strange way to end it. A real anti climax I must say, but perhaps a sequel is planned to pick up from that moment in some way?

[beanmilk]

Originally posted by Zenith:

Yeah, pretty strange way to end it. A real anti climax I must say, but perhaps a sequel is planned to pick up from that moment in some way?

I hope so.

[Zenith]

So do I, otherwise it looks as if they ran out of time/money. Disappointing, given the hoops you had to jump through to get there.

[XMAN3000]

I agree! The ending was lackluster!.. All that work and it came to this? ..Lol ..They should have taken a few pages from the God of War III series on that last gen PS3 console! ..I enjoyed Kratos's ever satisfying battles with Poseidon,Hercules,Helios,Hermes,Hades etc.Yeah,after all of the evil General Deathshead bestowed upon us and all the innocent lives slaughtered and the brain extraction of your allied soldier, they should have allowed us the satisfaction of pulling the General out of that mech and just (QTE)continuously beat him down to a bloody mess, stuff the grenade down his throat while kicking him off the top fortress with him exploding into a bloody mess! The helicopter comes and lands on top with me hugging and kissing my girlfriend! The end?

[LastHawk84]

Just finished the game the other day and was absolutely floored that the game and story would be so great. I understand lot of everyone's frustration with the ending. I would share this frustration, if this would be the last Wolfenstein.

However, the ending clearly is hyping up the fact that the Nazis are still in power and rule the globe. My points to support this:

1.) When Caroline is laying out their plan before the "Project Whisper" mission she states their goal as eliminating Deathshead. (Paraphrasing) By eliminating Deathshead, she explained that they would gain the tech and weapons and prevent Deathshead from cont. Nazi tech growth. (She never said their immediate goal was to wipe out the Nazis (at least as far as I understood)

2.) I took the time in my first play-through to read all those newspaper clippings (which were actually really fun to read). If you read them you definitely get the feeling that MachineGames was peppering the game with other areas of the world that a sequel could be set. (i.e. - the "Sun Gun" in space, uprisings throughout the US, almost no mention whatsoever about the Soviet Union which was intriguing,)

BEFORE THIS POINT I SHOULD STATE...BJ ISNT DEAD
3.) When Caroline is telling him after the hell mission about her injuries...they were just as severe as how we see BJ at the end (she had shattered vertebrae and pelvis, perforated intestines, etc.) So if she survived three days in a trench, BJ could have lasted.

4.) Before you get on my case, yes Wyatt or Fergus were about to launch a nuke. As many of you have pointed out, listening through the end of the credits, we never hear a bomb or cannon blast. We only hear the clearly distinguishing sound of helicopter blades. There is no way BJ's resistance pals would have just left him there after all they have been through. (Besides they all know his elevator was going to the top floor.)

5.) Also, I feel that there are way too many open story arcs that need to be resolved. These could only realistically be done with BJ. To me, it would feel extremely 'cheap' to only spend one game dealing with BJ awakening 14 years in the future and only spend several months experiencing The New Order in the world.

6.) Deathshead may be dead, but his tech is still out there. He may have been the only one that could reverse engineer the Da'at Yachud tech, and i would think BJ's mission would only finally be competed only when Deathshead tech is counter-acted by Set Roth revealing further bunkers of technology to the Resistance. Remember, Set Roth told the gang that the Nazis only found a small cache. There are much larger ones out in the world. (This is probably one of my favorite future story ideas. BJ and the Resistance stopping the Nazis from using way more deadly tech.)

So...this is what I have thought up so far. Hope I wasn't rambling too much. ELt me know what you all think about this great story!

[beanmilk]

Originally posted by LastHawk84:

Just finished the game the other day and was absolutely floored that the game and story would be so great. I understand lot of everyone's frustration with the ending. I would share this frustration, if this would be the last Wolfenstein.

However, the ending clearly is hyping up the fact that the Nazis are still in power and rule the globe. My points to support this:

1.) When Caroline is laying out their plan before the "Project Whisper" mission she states their goal as eliminating Deathshead. (Paraphrasing) By eliminating Deathshead, she explained that they would gain the tech and weapons and prevent Deathshead from cont. Nazi tech growth. (She never said their immediate goal was to wipe out the Nazis (at least as far as I understood)

2.) I took the time in my first play-through to read all those newspaper clippings (which were actually really fun to read). If you read them you definitely get the feeling that MachineGames was peppering the game with other areas of the world that a sequel could be set. (i.e. - the "Sun Gun" in space, uprisings throughout the US, almost no mention whatsoever about the Soviet Union which was intriguing,)

BEFORE THIS POINT I SHOULD STATE...BJ ISNT DEAD
3.) When Caroline is telling him after the hell mission about her injuries...they were just as severe as how we see BJ at the end (she had shattered vertebrae and pelvis, perforated intestines, etc.) So if she survived three days in a trench, BJ could have lasted.

4.) Before you get on my case, yes Wyatt or Fergus were about to launch a nuke. As many of you have pointed out, listening through the end of the credits, we never hear a bomb or cannon blast. We only hear the clearly distinguishing sound of helicopter blades. There is no way BJ's resistance pals would have just left him there after all they have been through. (Besides they all know his elevator was going to the top floor.)

5.) Also, I feel that there are way too many open story arcs that need to be resolved. These could only realistically be done with BJ. To me, it would feel extremely 'cheap' to only spend one game dealing with BJ awakening 14 years in the future and only spend several months experiencing The New Order in the world.

6.) Deathshead may be dead, but his tech is still out there. He may have been the only one that could reverse engineer the Da'at Yachud tech, and i would think BJ's mission would only finally be competed only when Deathshead tech is counter-acted by Set Roth revealing further bunkers of technology to the Resistance. Remember, Set Roth told the gang that the Nazis only found a small cache. There are much larger ones out in the world. (This is probably one of my favorite future story ideas. BJ and the Resistance stopping the Nazis from using way more deadly tech.)

So...this is what I have thought up so far. Hope I wasn't rambling too much. ELt me know what you all think about this great story!

It doesnt look like there is going to be another one, unless they figure out some crazy way to find a way to make a new story.
But I really enjoyed the game though.

[darknessviking]

i think:
1. the ending sucked.
BUT
2.it was meant to pass the torch to that woman,much like in the second medal of honor game where you play as a woman.
3. he felt he was a relic from old times,so when deathshead died,his purpose was finished too.
4. he probably survived,and will be in the sequel though.
¤¤¤¤
5. the chainsaw scene was out of nowhere,that german didnt do anything to him PERSONALLY (if you understand how i mean),then he just chainsaws him to death like a sadist.
6.that pilot that he stabbed over and over again in the spaceship.that was very sadist too and out of nowhere.
i felt like the game tried to say "is blazko really better than his enemies?"

i loved this game.
having double shotguns was amazing.

[[NOL] Cuban Pete]

Originally posted by LastHawk84:

6.) Deathshead may be dead, but his tech is still out there. He may have been the only one that could reverse engineer the Da'at Yachud tech, and i would think BJ's mission would only finally be competed only when Deathshead tech is counter-acted by Set Roth revealing further bunkers of technology to the Resistance. Remember, Set Roth told the gang that the Nazis only found a small cache. There are much larger ones out in the world. (This is probably one of my favorite future story ideas. BJ and the Resistance stopping the Nazis from using way more deadly tech.)

Don't forget that Frau Engel is still out there as well, and she is maaaaaaaaaaad.

[DogMeat]

Originally posted by darknessviking:

i think:
1. the ending sucked.
BUT
2.it was meant to pass the torch to that woman,much like in the second medal of honor game where you play as a woman.
3. he felt he was a relic from old times,so when deathshead died,his purpose was finished too.
4. he probably survived,and will be in the sequel though.
¤¤¤¤
5. the chainsaw scene was out of nowhere,that german didnt do anything to him PERSONALLY (if you understand how i mean),then he just chainsaws him to death like a sadist.
6.that pilot that he stabbed over and over again in the spaceship.that was very sadist too and out of nowhere.
i felt like the game tried to say "is blazko really better than his enemies?"

i loved this game.
having double shotguns was amazing.

While his subordinate took it upon himself to murder the staff the guy he chainsawed ordered the murder of the remaining 'inferiors'. Those people had been BJs family, to an extent, for the past 14 years. So yeah, the guy he chainsawed kind of had it coming.

Do agree about the pilot and if there was any kill in the game that I thought was excessive beyond that it was toilet Nazi. During the prison sequence if you sneak up behind a urinating Nazi first BJ throat punches him, drowns him in his own piss and then stabs him in the back of the head. Most kills in game are quick and clean but that one was rather nasty. If any Nazi deserved that death it was the torturer. I'm guessing the devs were trying to be funny or something. Haha BJ drowned a guy in a toilet.

[Espectro]

After the credits, it really sounds like helicopter blades approaching. So they certainly left it open enough for William to be rescued.

[LastHawk84]

Originally posted by NOL Cuban Pete:

Originally posted by LastHawk84:

6.) Deathshead may be dead, but his tech is still out there. He may have been the only one that could reverse engineer the Da'at Yachud tech, and i would think BJ's mission would only finally be competed only when Deathshead tech is counter-acted by Set Roth revealing further bunkers of technology to the Resistance. Remember, Set Roth told the gang that the Nazis only found a small cache. There are much larger ones out in the world. (This is probably one of my favorite future story ideas. BJ and the Resistance stopping the Nazis from using way more deadly tech.)

Don't forget that Frau Engel is still out there as well, and she is maaaaaaaaaaad.

I think she will be a main secondary baddie in the next game.for sure!

[LastHawk84]

Originally posted by Grief Knight:

Originally posted by LastHawk84:

Just finished the game the other day and was absolutely floored that the game and story would be so great. I understand lot of everyone's frustration with the ending. I would share this frustration, if this would be the last Wolfenstein.

However, the ending clearly is hyping up the fact that the Nazis are still in power and rule the globe. My points to support this:

1.) When Caroline is laying out their plan before the "Project Whisper" mission she states their goal as eliminating Deathshead. (Paraphrasing) By eliminating Deathshead, she explained that they would gain the tech and weapons and prevent Deathshead from cont. Nazi tech growth. (She never said their immediate goal was to wipe out the Nazis (at least as far as I understood)

2.) I took the time in my first play-through to read all those newspaper clippings (which were actually really fun to read). If you read them you definitely get the feeling that MachineGames was peppering the game with other areas of the world that a sequel could be set. (i.e. - the "Sun Gun" in space, uprisings throughout the US, almost no mention whatsoever about the Soviet Union which was intriguing,)

BEFORE THIS POINT I SHOULD STATE...BJ ISNT DEAD
3.) When Caroline is telling him after the hell mission about her injuries...they were just as severe as how we see BJ at the end (she had shattered vertebrae and pelvis, perforated intestines, etc.) So if she survived three days in a trench, BJ could have lasted.

4.) Before you get on my case, yes Wyatt or Fergus were about to launch a nuke. As many of you have pointed out, listening through the end of the credits, we never hear a bomb or cannon blast. We only hear the clearly distinguishing sound of helicopter blades. There is no way BJ's resistance pals would have just left him there after all they have been through. (Besides they all know his elevator was going to the top floor.)

5.) Also, I feel that there are way too many open story arcs that need to be resolved. These could only realistically be done with BJ. To me, it would feel extremely 'cheap' to only spend one game dealing with BJ awakening 14 years in the future and only spend several months experiencing The New Order in the world.

6.) Deathshead may be dead, but his tech is still out there. He may have been the only one that could reverse engineer the Da'at Yachud tech, and i would think BJ's mission would only finally be competed only when Deathshead tech is counter-acted by Set Roth revealing further bunkers of technology to the Resistance. Remember, Set Roth told the gang that the Nazis only found a small cache. There are much larger ones out in the world. (This is probably one of my favorite future story ideas. BJ and the Resistance stopping the Nazis from using way more deadly tech.)

So...this is what I have thought up so far. Hope I wasn't rambling too much. ELt me know what you all think about this great story!

It doesnt look like there is going to be another one, unless they figure out some crazy way to find a way to make a new story.
But I really enjoyed the game though.

well...for one the game is selling beyond intial expectations. Second, i dont think a sequel would need a crazy story of some kind. Afterall, the Nazis still rule the globe.

[rikster]

I sure hope they will pick-up where they left off -- really have enjoyed this game!

[4TonHammer]

Ending didnt suck, it was a cliffhanger. The chopper sounds obviously mean theyre coming back for ol BJ. The last boss fights were tough and brutal but never so cheap. I thought this game was amazing and plan on playing it more and more. Its not often they make gems like this one.

[2woDads]

He wants to die, I can't believe this many people can't work it out. That is why he told Anya the happy ending (the vision in the backyard) wasn't for a couple like them. He wants to die because of all the $hit he has seen, he is in more pain being alive than if he died. He just wanted to kill Deathshead before going to the afterlife.