Wolfenstein: The New Order

Wolfenstein: The New Order

niandra Mar 18, 2017 @ 2:24pm
Why so fictional? [Spoilers]
I know it's already fictional because the Nazis took over, amazing technological advancements, etc. But now I'm entering a high-tech nearly-magical jewish secret society? And now the Nazis do all their stuff on the moon? It just seems a bit unnecessary to be that extremely fictional. I could understand there being a lunar base, but the fact that they do like all their research there? And the fact that the underwater jewish secret base was so old and yet so high-tech? It was just... I know games are unrealistic, but I really hate when they get so fictional it's hard for me to care about the story.
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Aethrys Mar 19, 2017 @ 8:13am 
The Jew magic science adds a layer of irony to the story. The Nazis believe they're the ubermensch/master race, but New Order posits that the only way they could possibly succeed is by stealing technology from Jews, who are supposed to be inferior in their worldview. I can't stress this enough, honestly. If you read the old news clippings posted in the HQ, it makes it very clear that the Red army was only defeated because the Wehrmacht had ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ Robot death hounds. I will give you that it seems particularly contrived that the secret cabal of Jewish Wizard Scientists waited so long to leak technology to the Allies.

Personally, my biggest issue with the story is that it states that WWII dragged on into 1946, but for some reason the Manhattan project was never completed.

Unsure what the problem with doing research at a lunar base is. Theoretically access control would be much easier, and therefore security much tighter. Which seems very in line with the extreme paranoia of the Reich.
niandra Mar 19, 2017 @ 8:46am 
Originally posted by Aethrys:
The Jew magic science adds a layer of irony to the story. The Nazis believe they're the ubermensch/master race, but New Order posits that the only way they could possibly succeed is by stealing technology from Jews, who are supposed to be inferior in their worldview. I can't stress this enough, honestly. If you read the old news clippings posted in the HQ, it makes it very clear that the Red army was only defeated because the Wehrmacht had ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ Robot death hounds. I will give you that it seems particularly contrived that the secret cabal of Jewish Wizard Scientists waited so long to leak technology to the Allies.

Personally, my biggest issue with the story is that it states that WWII dragged on into 1946, but for some reason the Manhattan project was never completed.

Unsure what the problem with doing research at a lunar base is. Theoretically access control would be much easier, and therefore security much tighter. Which seems very in line with the extreme paranoia of the Reich.
The game is set in approximately the 60's. Even with the advanced technological growth, I find it hard to believe they would be able to create a giant base like that and carry out advanced research. And also, the Jewish secret society was so advanced it was a bit ridiculous imo. Hard to keep playing when it felt so unreal.
Aethrys Mar 19, 2017 @ 9:37am 
Originally posted by dogg:
Originally posted by Aethrys:
The Jew magic science adds a layer of irony to the story. The Nazis believe they're the ubermensch/master race, but New Order posits that the only way they could possibly succeed is by stealing technology from Jews, who are supposed to be inferior in their worldview. I can't stress this enough, honestly. If you read the old news clippings posted in the HQ, it makes it very clear that the Red army was only defeated because the Wehrmacht had ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ Robot death hounds. I will give you that it seems particularly contrived that the secret cabal of Jewish Wizard Scientists waited so long to leak technology to the Allies.

Personally, my biggest issue with the story is that it states that WWII dragged on into 1946, but for some reason the Manhattan project was never completed.

Unsure what the problem with doing research at a lunar base is. Theoretically access control would be much easier, and therefore security much tighter. Which seems very in line with the extreme paranoia of the Reich.
The game is set in approximately the 60's. Even with the advanced technological growth, I find it hard to believe they would be able to create a giant base like that and carry out advanced research. And also, the Jewish secret society was so advanced it was a bit ridiculous imo. Hard to keep playing when it felt so unreal.

Eh, totalitarian regimes don't really have to worry about justifying research expenses. German WWII scientific/weapons proposals were by and large absurdly ambitious even by today's standards. (Including a proposal to put a giant mirror in space and fry hostile cities off the map using sunlight like a very large magnifying glass) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wunderwaffe

By and large things got funded one of two ways. 1. Hitler decided he needed something with specific capabilities, and said "Make this happen." Or someone made a pitch and was able to enamor him with the idea. Not that this always panned out, of course. They did make the fateful decision in 1942 to put a theoretical atomic bomb on the backburner after all.

Point being, in a scenario where Germany had achieved total victory in 1946, I could absolutely see a highly advanced lunar colonization project being plausible. The US space program achieved many successes primarily due to Operation Paperclip cutting deals to pardon former Reich scientists. Imagine how much more successful they would've been with a blank check from hitler and the resources of 2/3 of the planet at their disposal.
why cant i sleep Apr 2, 2017 @ 5:59am 
Because there have been tons of standard WW2 shooters, there needs to be some twist to them.
Jeff Apr 2, 2017 @ 10:15pm 
The nazis did try too use the occult in ww2 and the Kaballah was the mystical side of Judaism.But this game is just fantasy thats all it is.
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Date Posted: Mar 18, 2017 @ 2:24pm
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