be aware of tourists aka antiwoke grifters coming to these forums.

[Feebs]

They're fake fans. You can spot them easily since they will hold little knowledge of Tolkien and his books and only care about "woke stuff"

[It's Mankind]

No need to worry feebs the boards are being sanitized as not to look poorly on the publishers before release, the industrial game journos complex is already in full swing, exclaiming the stunning and braveness of it all. The machine is running just the way you like it, carry on.

There will be no descent here. none shall question it, rest easy comrade.

[Feebs]

Based and all is well.

But i mean its a freakin kids game. There's no need for hardcore gatekeepers on an e rated game

[WarPigeon]

Originally posted by Feebs:

They're fake fans. You can spot them easily since they will hold little knowledge of Tolkien and his books and only care about "woke stuff"

Eh, sometimes they are fairly knowledgeable. They can provide specific quotes to support their inane opinions and such.

The real problem is that they know so many details about the books that they miss the forest for the trees. We all know how much Tolkien idealized the Hobbits and their peaceful country lifestyle. I think that he'd much prefer a cozy farming game to any of the more "lore accurate" violent action games we've seen over the years.

[AI-COM/RSPN]

People are tired of having IPs that they've invested a lot of time and passion into torn down over hamfisted and, frankly, openly bigoted ideology.

Lord of the Rings was one of the most beloved stories and a modern classic that had multiple awesome movies, games, and artwork made about it over the last few decades...and people are tired of seeing all of that essentially ruined by that same shoehorned ideology not even creeping - but flooding - into the IP that has a blatant disregard for the source material and the audience that loved it.

You want what you want? Make your own great stories up with your own ideology. If it's as great as you think it is it will stand on its own. Stop trying to co-opt what everyone else loves and ruin it in the process.

We're all wary of woke garbage perforating every single piece of media that comes out of the west today...because that's exactly what its doing. It ruined Marvel, it ruined LoTR with Rings of Power, it's ruined dozens of games, we don't want it to ruin even more.

[Feebs]

Originally posted by AI-COM/RSPN:

People are tired of having IPs that they've invested a lot of time and passion into torn down over hamfisted and, frankly, openly bigoted ideology.

Lord of the Rings was one of the most beloved stories and a modern classic that had multiple awesome movies, games, and artwork made about it over the last few decades...and people are tired of seeing all of that essentially ruined by that same shoehorned ideology not even creeping - but flooding - into the IP that has a blatant disregard for the source material and the audience that loved it.

You want what you want? Make your own great stories up with your own ideology. If it's as great as you think it is it will stand on its own. Stop trying to co-opt what everyone else loves and ruin it in the process.

We're all wary of woke garbage perforating every single piece of media that comes out of the west today...because that's exactly what its doing. It ruined Marvel, it ruined LoTR with Rings of Power, it's ruined dozens of games, we don't want it to ruin even more.

Sir this is a children's game.

[Ferranis]

Originally posted by Feebs:

Originally posted by AI-COM/RSPN:

People are tired of having IPs that they've invested a lot of time and passion into torn down over hamfisted and, frankly, openly bigoted ideology.

Lord of the Rings was one of the most beloved stories and a modern classic that had multiple awesome movies, games, and artwork made about it over the last few decades...and people are tired of seeing all of that essentially ruined by that same shoehorned ideology not even creeping - but flooding - into the IP that has a blatant disregard for the source material and the audience that loved it.

You want what you want? Make your own great stories up with your own ideology. If it's as great as you think it is it will stand on its own. Stop trying to co-opt what everyone else loves and ruin it in the process.

We're all wary of woke garbage perforating every single piece of media that comes out of the west today...because that's exactly what its doing. It ruined Marvel, it ruined LoTR with Rings of Power, it's ruined dozens of games, we don't want it to ruin even more.

Sir this is a children's game.

Children don't play PC games today, they are on mobile. The audience is older LOTR fans wanting a reaxing time, if I would bet.

[Feebs]

Originally posted by Ferranis:

Originally posted by Feebs:

Sir this is a children's game.

Children don't play PC games today, they are on mobile. The audience is older LOTR fans wanting a reaxing time, if I would bet.

Who will be sharing and playing it with their kids and they sure aren't going to be throwing these wild tangeants. This is a casual sim life game.

This game is also coming out on all consoles.

[AI-COM/RSPN]

Originally posted by Feebs:

I have nothing to add to this conversation

We know

[WarPigeon]

Originally posted by AI-COM/RSPN:

People are tired of having IPs that they've invested a lot of time and passion into torn down over hamfisted and, frankly, openly bigoted ideology.

Lord of the Rings was one of the most beloved stories and a modern classic that had multiple awesome movies, games, and artwork made about it over the last few decades...and people are tired of seeing all of that essentially ruined by that same shoehorned ideology not even creeping - but flooding - into the IP that has a blatant disregard for the source material and the audience that loved it.

You want what you want? Make your own great stories up with your own ideology. If it's as great as you think it is it will stand on its own. Stop trying to co-opt what everyone else loves and ruin it in the process.

We're all wary of woke garbage perforating every single piece of media that comes out of the west today...because that's exactly what its doing. It ruined Marvel, it ruined LoTR with Rings of Power, it's ruined dozens of games, we don't want it to ruin even more.

Wokeness didn't ruin Marvel, bad writing did. Comic fans have always loved strong female characters. They just hate poorly written ones.

Haven't seen Rings of Power, so I can't speak to that, but the original film trilogy is still quite beloved despite it changing A LOT from the books, not the least of which being turning the majority of the narrative into an action-oriented war story. That's because even though the movies changed so much, they were still clearly made by those who loved the source material. I suspect the fate of this game will also rest on that point, not whether or or not you can customize your hobbit with a non-cannon skin tone.

[SimranZenov]

Originally posted by Feebs:

They're fake fans. You can spot them easily since they will hold little knowledge of Tolkien and his books and only care about "woke stuff"

Pretty much... you would think they would have something better to do...

[AI-COM/RSPN]

Originally posted by WarPigeon:

Wokeness didn't ruin Marvel, bad writing did. Comic fans have always loved strong female characters. They just hate poorly written ones.

Wokeness ruined Marvel because it’s a terrible ideology that literally begs for bad writing. “Use black girl magic” and a twerking she-hulk are bad writing..but they’re both included because woke is what put them in there.

Wokeness is also not “strong female characters”; don’t equate the two. Firefly wasn’t woke, it was well written. Aliens wasn’t woke, it was well written.

[WarPigeon]

Originally posted by AI-COM/RSPN:

Originally posted by WarPigeon:

Wokeness didn't ruin Marvel, bad writing did. Comic fans have always loved strong female characters. They just hate poorly written ones.

Wokeness ruined Marvel because it’s a terrible ideology that literally begs for bad writing. “Use black girl magic” and a twerking she-hulk are bad writing..but they’re both included because woke is what put them in there.

Wokeness is also not “strong female characters”; don’t equate the two. Firefly wasn’t woke, it was well written. Aliens wasn’t woke, it was well written.

I mean, we agree, but the tone of your post makes it sound like we don't.

[Feebs]

Originally posted by AI-COM/RSPN:

Originally posted by WarPigeon:

Wokeness didn't ruin Marvel, bad writing did. Comic fans have always loved strong female characters. They just hate poorly written ones.

Wokeness ruined Marvel because it’s a terrible ideology that literally begs for bad writing. “Use black girl magic” and a twerking she-hulk are bad writing..but they’re both included because woke is what put them in there.

Wokeness is also not “strong female characters”; don’t equate the two. Firefly wasn’t woke, it was well written. Aliens wasn’t woke, it was well written.

She hulk in the comics was always a 4th wall breaking more slice of life thing than the other marvel comics. The tv show nailed that well.

[Supahz]

Originally posted by AI-COM/RSPN:

Lord of the Rings was one of the most beloved stories and a modern classic that had multiple awesome movies, games, and artwork made about it over the last few decades...and people are tired of seeing all of that essentially ruined by that same shoehorned ideology not even creeping - but flooding - into the IP that has a blatant disregard for the source material and the audience that loved it.

We're all wary of woke garbage perforating every single piece of media that comes out of the west today...because that's exactly what its doing. It ruined Marvel, it ruined LoTR with Rings of Power, it's ruined dozens of games, we don't want it to ruin even more.

How exactly was LOTR ruined by Rings of Power? RoP is an adaptation, not a definitive work claiming to be the final word. The source material remains the source material. Not liking it for any reason is fine, but being offended by it is hilarious. You could argue that LOTR was ravaged by the Peter Jackson movies, because that's not even close to totally lore accurate. As for RoP, you can just choose to not consume RoP and avoid it. Literally just dismiss it and move on. In no way does it diminish the source material because the source material stands on it's own far above every game, movie and toy since it.

People throw the word "woke" around on to anything that they don't agree with. This forum is full of people acting all offended, and claiming there's a huge conspiracy to wreck all the things the love by adding PoC or pink shirts or whatever to the franchise that they love. But the truth is, that's always over-exaggerated nonsense, and the fact that you would even care that there's a brown-skinned person in the game or show and it somehow ruins the world... is laughable.

Here's the truth... four companies own various aspects to LOTR rights. These companies want to make money off of the rights they hold. Hopefully, they all love the source material and want to be mostly true to it... but if the game company chooses to add skin colors, hair styles, cosmetic pets or whatever to their game, it's to SELL MORE GAMES. There's nothing nefarious about it. It's $, it's not being worried that 1,300 people in Twitter will badmouth them. But hey, keep tilting at those windmills, people.

[WarPigeon]

Originally posted by Feebs:

Originally posted by AI-COM/RSPN:

Wokeness ruined Marvel because it’s a terrible ideology that literally begs for bad writing. “Use black girl magic” and a twerking she-hulk are bad writing..but they’re both included because woke is what put them in there.

Wokeness is also not “strong female characters”; don’t equate the two. Firefly wasn’t woke, it was well written. Aliens wasn’t woke, it was well written.

She hulk in the comics was always a 4th wall breaking more slice of life thing than the other marvel comics. The tv show nailed that well.

I actually wished that they leaned into that aspect of it more. Had they made the show a little more self-aware, they could have easily excused some of the badly written parts with a *wink wink* at the camera.