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Taka Mar 30, 2023 @ 9:11am
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So... will there be mods to uncensor this game?
The game is heavily censored, and I believe SE also did it's usual (recent) crap where they refuse to call people women, so is anyone gonna make a mod to remove the censorship and fix the intentionally mistranslated dialog?
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Cyanid_ Mar 30, 2023 @ 9:31am 
make one yourself?
Healnavi Mar 30, 2023 @ 9:32am 
"Heavily" is an overstatement. And most of the changes are in all versions/languages.

If the game's script is easy to edit someone will probably make a touch up of the weirder dialogue choices.
Taka Mar 30, 2023 @ 9:49am 
Originally posted by Forth:
"Heavily" is an overstatement. And most of the changes are in all versions/languages.

If the game's script is easy to edit someone will probably make a touch up of the weirder dialogue choices.

How is it an overstatement? They made a TON of changes to the game.
Tahlmut Mar 30, 2023 @ 10:10am 
Hoping there will be a fan translation patch to remove the censorship.

Also, just out of curiosity, I wonder why they went with Shifu (Mandarin) instead of Sifu (Cantonese) when Sifu is the more widely known use of Master because of all those old 70s / 80s Kung Fu movies being made in Cantonese.
kusoge Mar 30, 2023 @ 10:21am 
If you're genuinely so perturbed... 日本語を学んだら?内省の方がおすすめだけど。
Healnavi Mar 30, 2023 @ 10:33am 
Originally posted by Taka:
How is it an overstatement?
The part where you said "heavily." A lot of the changes between versions are demonstrably not censorship. Most of the things you could classify as censorship are minor. Even among those, a lot of them are universal across all releases and whether they're a matter of creator choice or active censorship is subjective. Like, you could argue tequila being changed to another item is "censorship," but that's just one way of interpreting it. Given the original director/scenario writer oversaw the remake, it's just as easy to argue that the team just decided they wanted to do something different. "Less socially objectionable" is not automatically censorship: intent matters.

"The game is censored." is a reasonable statement. "Heavily censored" is disingenuous hyperbole.
Sensui-Tomo Mar 30, 2023 @ 12:53pm 
I know why this user was familiar, they complained when SE got rid of the 12 year old's panties from Chrono cross and replaced them with bloomers. And called everyone against that some sjw crap or another.
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Melodia Mar 30, 2023 @ 1:12pm 
Originally posted by cpeters9153:
I know why this user was familiar, they complained when SE got rid of the 12 year old's panties from Chrono cross and replaced them with bloomers. And called everyone against that some sjw crap or another.

So not surprised.
Michael the Meek Mar 30, 2023 @ 1:39pm 
Hopefully people make mods.
blahblahblacksheep8 Mar 30, 2023 @ 1:47pm 
Originally posted by cpeters9153:
I know why this user was familiar, they complained when SE got rid of the 12 year old's panties from Chrono cross and replaced them with bloomers. And called everyone against that some sjw crap or another.
That wasn't just it. They changed dialog as well instead of focusing on Geometry and zbuffer fixes you get when you use Unity. Nobody understands from a developer and technical prospective why they didn't use the Unity Engine with FF8 and Chrono Cross and soon to be Xenogears when FF9 remaster turned out so great because of them using the Unity Engine. A sincere waste of time on their part.
Nickakyoin Mar 30, 2023 @ 2:03pm 
Wait, does anyone has a list of all the censorships they applied here? I guess it's mainly minor stuff but I am curious.
JonPringus Mar 30, 2023 @ 2:49pm 
Originally posted by Nickakyoin:
Wait, does anyone has a list of all the censorships they applied here? I guess it's mainly minor stuff but I am curious.
There's a Bounding into Comics article about it. I don't want to share the link cause I don't like the journal, but it should be easy to google.

I would say this game is "heavily censored". But my standards are pretty low. However, I do think people just saying "it's censored" has caused the public to think it's more censored than it is. It's one of those cases where the information is out there, but people don't look into it, because it is true that the game is "sanitized" and has "not-so-good localization choices" at the very least.

Also, dang, first I've heard about that aspect of Chrono Cross. That's pretty bad censorship. Now I have to find out if someone's restored that as well
Shylaar Mar 30, 2023 @ 4:13pm 
Originally posted by Nickakyoin:
Wait, does anyone has a list of all the censorships they applied here? I guess it's mainly minor stuff but I am curious.

Originally posted by Shylaar:
This remake was heavily censored, both from the original Japanese SNES release to the remake, and in localisation from Japanese to English.
From the original to the remake:
- Swearing was censored with fill-ins and bleeps.
- An event regarding Akira stealing Taeko's panties was changed to him stealing her money instead.
- An event regarding Sundown and Mad Dog stealing Annie's chemise was changed to stealing her diary instead.
- A nude sprite of the girl in prehistory in a hidden event was covered up.
- References to Buddhism were changed.

From Japanese to English there were many rewrites regarding anything that could be seen as even remotely sexist, eg. Lawless telling Taeko it's not a woman's place to butt in being rewritten, Shifu telling Lei that getting angry ruins her pretty face, female NPCs being vain or stupid being rewritten etc.
No graphical changes, just text censorship. There were also various other rewrites, but unrelated to censorship.

It's entirely possible that there were more instances of censorship not covered here too.
GamerXT Mar 30, 2023 @ 4:18pm 
Originally posted by cpeters9153:
I know why this user was familiar, they complained when SE got rid of the 12 year old's panties from Chrono cross and replaced them with bloomers. And called everyone against that some sjw crap or another.
lmao...
SevenNines Mar 30, 2023 @ 4:48pm 
Originally posted by cpeters9153:
I know why this user was familiar, they complained when SE got rid of the 12 year old's panties from Chrono cross and replaced them with bloomers. And called everyone against that some sjw crap or another.
I can't believe the rance fan is one of the more sensible people here lol
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