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It's not worth it upgrading from 1080P to 1440P on 27" Monitor.
27" Monitors are perfect size for sitting regularly at a computer desk. I have three 27" monitors. They are all 1080P. And what I'm about to say is based only on my single day experience using 1440P. Different monitors, or different people may change the overall outcome. But this is my experience.

People kind of snubbed me for having a 4080 and only using 1080P. lol I wanted to know what 1440P was like anyhow. I planned to upgrade to 1440P but comments made me believe I was missing out on something. So I upgraded a little sooner then originally planned.

I bought a $600+ 1440P monitor. While it's a good monitor. I barely noticed a quality boost in almost any game. 1080P looks basically the same. I know it's not a DLSS setting etc. I'm using DLSS quality and tried no DLSS super sampling at all.

If I view them both 1080P and 1440P side by side live. Maybe I would notice a little more but from my tests it's very minimal.

I've tested several games. Sure if I know were to look I notice a slight visual appearance boost. But otherwise it's pointless. It's barely worth it even if FPS stayed the same. But FPS went from 150 to 100 and since it's still playable I will try it out longer. I can easily switch back to 1080P and move this monitor over to my other monitors. Like swap them. So my 1080P is back in the middle for gaming. And my 1440P can be my side media monitor.

I just want to let people know. Sure the 1440P monitor may have other benefits too. Outside of gaming etc. But it has some downsides as well. I promise you if buy a better 1080P monitor it will do more for you at 27" than 1440P will. If you already have a top tier 1080P monitor. Upgrade to 1440P if you want a slight boost.

Even if you upgrade quality of monitor and go for 1440P. You won't likely notice any major difference. I still consider myself a 1080P gamer. I would rather have 150 FPS then the slight quality boost I got. Some people who use 1440P or 4K also lower graphic settings to pull it off.

Your probably downgrading your experience if you use 1440P or 4K and lower settings to compensate for FPS. Just use a 1080P monitor with maxed settings. I'm still using max settings on 1440P and barely notice a difference in visual quality.

Note: If you go above 27" likely 32" or higher. Sure I'm willing to say that 1440P or 4K may be more viable. Even at 32" 4K is likely still overkill. But that's not what this discussion is about. We were only talking about 27" are people really using 27" 4K monitors for gaming? That's actually sad. lol I don't exactly regret this. I had to see for myself. And like I said the monitor still has it's uses.
最近の変更はBlueDragonXDが行いました; 2022年12月30日 18時11分
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Akgis の投稿を引用:
illgib の投稿を引用:
How to waste money, part 1.
4K under 30'/40' it's useless.

Thats your opnion, while I will uprade to a 32 OLED 4k@144+ when avaiable Iam pretty happy with my 4K 27' , I had a 27' 1440p before and I can certainly notice the diference, text is sharp and everything else is cristal clear, the fine things are not for everyone I guess

Its like having almost the pixel density of a high end mobile phone but at 27', that should give you a idea ;)
I'm not saying there's no difference, obviously you'll have a bigger pixel density, but would be waste since you'll have almost no difference from a 2k panel of the same size at double the price, ence the waste of money.
Like buying a Threadripper if you play only on weekends on match3 games.
I have a 27 inch 1440p monitor and it's good and all, but nowhere as amazing as people make it out to be. Displayport, Freesync/Gsync and refresh rate are more interesting. The extra desk space is great and all and the screen looks a bit crisper ofc.
I have a 27'' 4K monitor and a 27'' 2K monitor. The difference is very apparent if I examine them very closely. On the 2K monitor I can make out separate pixels, whereas it is impossible to see separate pixels on the 4K monitor due to higher pixel-per-inch resolution. Even 1080p resolution looks better on the 4K monitor.

1080p on a 27'' monitor? Enjoy your blurry textures.
OP must be blind. Genuine vision problems or something.

I use a variety of 27" displays and there's a massive difference.
- PC (Gaming): 27" IPS 4K (ASUS ROG XG27UQ)
- iMac (Work): 27" IPS 5K + 2x 27" IPS 1080p (AOC 27B1H)
- iMac (Personal): 27" IPS 1440p

There's a very noticeable difference between 1080p and 1440p, an even bigger difference when moving up to 4K. Text is far sharper at 1440p+. The only instance where you won't see a difference is fast moving or low resolution content. The only reason to stay at 1080p would be for low-tier GPUs really.

The only pointless argument to be had really is going from 4K to 5K which is barely noticeable unless you're less than 30cm from the screen.

Again, OP must be blind.

BlueDragonXD の投稿を引用:
We were only talking about 27" are people really using 27" 4K monitors for gaming? That's actually sad. lol I don't exactly regret this. I had to see for myself. And like I said the monitor still has it's uses.

Sad? Seems like you have some form of envy for those with high-end GPUs and the ability to run @ 4K.
最近の変更はMeatloaf Cocktailが行いました; 2023年1月10日 15時59分
Meatloaf Cocktail の投稿を引用:
OP must be blind. Genuine vision problems or something.

I use a variety of 27" displays and there's a massive difference.
- PC (Gaming): 27" IPS 4K (ASUS ROG XG27UQ)
- iMac (Work): 27" IPS 5K + 2x 27" IPS 1080p (AOC 27B1H)
- iMac (Personal): 27" IPS 1440p

There's a very noticeable difference between 1080p and 1440p, an even bigger difference when moving up to 4K. Text is far sharper at 1440p+. The only instance where you won't see a difference is fast moving or low resolution content. The only reason to stay at 1080p would be for low-tier GPUs really.

The only pointless argument to be had really is going from 4K to 5K which is barely noticeable unless you're less than 30cm from the screen.

Again, OP must be blind.

BlueDragonXD の投稿を引用:
We were only talking about 27" are people really using 27" 4K monitors for gaming? That's actually sad. lol I don't exactly regret this. I had to see for myself. And like I said the monitor still has it's uses.

Sad? Seems like you have some form of envy for those with high-end GPUs and the ability to run @ 4K.

I think I'm going for an eye check in the coming weeks. I've never been unable to see anything. But I guess we will know once and for all. But I assume my eyes are very good.

But I have a 12700K and a RTX 4080 so I don't see how I can be envy towards people who can game at 4k? Right. Pretty much unless they have a 4090. Even than I would never upgrade to a 4K 27" monitor. Completely pointless. And even some 4090 Users have told me they need to turn down graphic settings on 4K to run smoothly. That does not sound like good gaming at all. Graphic settings will make a game look better than going from 1440P to 4K. I could have afforded a 4090. I just choose not too. Only like $500 more etc.
V!KiNG 2023年1月12日 14時20分 
One good reason to up your screen resolution without upping the size is to load down your GPU and even out frame times. The lower your screen resolution, the more likely your 4080 will finish rendering its frame before the CPU calculates the next one, which can cause micro stutters. If you don't want, need, or have room for something larger, a 27" 4K monitor would leave your GPU working harder and keep it from getting too far ahead of your CPU. Higher refresh rates can help, too, as long as the game engine supports what the GPU can pump out.

I'm running a 3090 on a 27" 1080p monitor (I can see pixels, yes, but I grew up on Hercules and VGA) and have to use over-rendering on games that have the option. Otherwise I get micro stutters from CPU limiting. Portal RTX doesn't give me that problem, though...
最近の変更はV!KiNGが行いました; 2023年1月12日 14時22分
Honestly I sold my 1440p monitor and went back to a 1080p monitor myself. Partly due to most glossy monitors are 1080p ( or worse ) and I find that modern anti-glare coating is far worse than a lower resolution. That being said I use DLDSR with almost every game. DLDSR with x1.78 ( 1440p ) and x2.25 ( 1620p ) factors is a massive increase in picture quality while using a FHD display.

Kleerex の投稿を引用:
Even 1080p resolution looks better on the 4K monitor

No it won't. Native 1080p monitor will look far better than using 1080p on anything higher resolution.
最近の変更はgoldgriffin360が行いました; 2023年3月26日 14時36分
24 inch 1080p
27 inch 1440p
32 inch 4k (125% scaling)
最近の変更はrckrz6が行いました; 2023年4月1日 20時16分
Should have gone to spec savers
bro OP your eyes are fine lmao don't listen to these shmucks

Seamus の投稿を引用:
This is a really long way of saying you need glasses.

envirovore の投稿を引用:
OP not only needs glasses but also has the bonus of not understanding pixels per inch/pixel density.

I 100% agree with you OP. These 2 guys Seamus and envirovore are both victims of marketing. These nerdy geek mfs think they're buying into some mind blowing difference of visual quality. Even to a person with perfect eyes you just need a bit of common sense and not be sheep to know the difference between 1080p and 1440p at that screen size is not mind blowing. There is a noticeable difference, sure, if you stare at it long enough which I bet what Seamus and enviovore do all day lmao. To properly tell in video games, you'd have to zoom in to a still image of both resolutions to really see the difference in pixels. Yeah I know 1440p has more pixel density (ppi) than 1080p at 27 inch, but that's all nerd talk to me, what I care about and what you should care about, is the difference really WORTH IT? is the difference big enough to upgrade? is the difference mind blowing like these marketers say it out to be? is it gonna make me a BETTER gamer? and how drastic is this change gonna be because these monitors ain't exactly cheap. The answer is, Yeah it could make you a better gamer especially when you're doing those long-range gun fights in a competitive shooter game, but i will repeat myself, it's "not mind blowing" how good 1440p is over 1080p at 27 inches. it's just meh imo.

I suggest to anyone upgrading from 1080p monitor, just go straight to 4K. especially if you are buying a bigger screen (TV) that is 40" or bigger. Esport gamers can play on a higher level than you and they use sh!tty tech still gaming at 1080p, so why should YOU need to upgrade? like just get gud, 1080p is good enough to own noobs like Seamus and envirovore.

On a separate topic, I'll tell you what was mind blowing to me. going from 60 hz to 144 hz was mind blowing. Get higher refresh rate monitors especially if you are a competitive gamer. They will be way more useful.
最近の変更はZenbeauが行いました; 2023年4月21日 8時34分
Zenbeau の投稿を引用:
bro OP your eyes are fine lmao don't listen to these shmucks

Seamus の投稿を引用:
This is a really long way of saying you need glasses.

envirovore の投稿を引用:
OP not only needs glasses but also has the bonus of not understanding pixels per inch/pixel density.

I 100% agree with you OP. These 2 guys Seamus and envirovore are both victims of marketing. These nerdy geek mfs think they're buying into some mind blowing difference of visual quality. Even to a person with perfect eyes you just need a bit of common sense and not be sheep to know the difference between 1080p and 1440p at that screen size is not mind blowing. There is a noticeable difference, sure, if you stare at it long enough which I bet what Seamus and enviovore do all day lmao. To properly tell in video games, you'd have to zoom in to a still image of both resolutions to really see the difference in pixels. Yeah I know 1440p has more pixel density (ppi) than 1080p at 27 inch, but that's all nerd talk to me, what I care about and what you should care about, is the difference really WORTH IT? is the difference big enough to upgrade? is the difference mind blowing like these marketers say it out to be? is it gonna make me a BETTER gamer? and how drastic is this change gonna be because these monitors ain't exactly cheap. The answer is, Yeah it could make you a better gamer especially when you're doing those long-range gun fights in a competitive shooter game, but i will repeat myself, it's "not mind blowing" how good 1440p is over 1080p at 27 inches. it's just meh imo.

I suggest to anyone upgrading from 1080p monitor, just go straight to 4K. especially if you are buying a bigger screen (TV) that is 40" or bigger. Esport gamers can play on a higher level than you and they use sh!tty tech still gaming at 1080p, so why should YOU need to upgrade? like just get gud, 1080p is good enough to own noobs like Seamus and envirovore.

On a separate topic, I'll tell you what was mind blowing to me. going from 60 hz to 144 hz was mind blowing. Get higher refresh rate monitors especially if you are a competitive gamer. They will be way more useful.

Thanks and I still agree. Even now I barely notice a difference between 1080P and 1440P. I like the added desktop real estate. But yes refresh rate/hz is a big, big deal.

A couple years ago I went from 60hz to 240hz. Of course most games did not get above 160hz because it's dependant on your FPS. But some games I played made it all the was to 240hz. Now that was my 1080P monitor that I still use. But my main monitor the 1440P one is only 165hz. I love how I can say only and then list 165hz. lol

But most games I can't reach 165hz on 1440P anyways. A lot of them remain between 80-140hz is usually what get for modern games. That said some still push past 150+ FPS

Even 80 FPS is great compared to being locked at 60hz/fps. I think I notice more of a difference in gaming from 60hz to 80hz than I do 1080P to 1440P. lol I know those are way different things that do not compare. But when it comes to an impact on gaming. Upgrade hz before resolution. That said it's hard to find a 1440P monitor that does not at least offer 144hz anyways. And 144hz is what I recommend people aim for.

Even on my 4080 a lot of games do not consistently hit 144FPS anyways. I also think it's a good idea to subtract 2-4 FPS from your monitors max. And use your GPU software to lock that as the max. So I usually lock my Hz/FPS to 161 or 162 even though my monitor can do 165. There is reasoning behind this. And no it won't benefit everyone or every game. But in some cases it will give you more smooth game play. It can like avoid certain kinds of stutters.

I did it to fix an issue in one game and I have never gone back. But read into it before deciding if you want to do it. I'm just saying this to anyone reading this. But yes going from 60hz to 144hz is not even worth discussing on how much of an improvement you get. It's more than just night and day. It changes the entire aspect of gaming for me. Yes i was still using a 60hz monitor only 4 years ago I think. lol

P.S Did I notice a difference between 165hz and 240hz in a few of the games that made it to 240 FPS back on my 1080P monitor? Yes. Was it a big difference? Sort of? However it was overkill to me. Sure it looked and felt more smooth even to 165hz. However it was not a big deal at all. What about 144hz to 165hz? Yes same thing not a big deal but every little bit can help. I notice and feel the difference. But my final thought is 144hz and above are all amazing. 120hz is likely not enough. Sure if your game does not hit above 120 FPS than no difference. But in general if you can manage it you will want above 120hz/fps.
最近の変更はBlueDragonXDが行いました; 2023年4月21日 13時46分
I defended 27'' 1080p for years, even tho most people say 27'' is too big for 1080p, and I was more than happy with it. Now for the past year I've been playing on a 43'' 4k TV (pretty much the same pixel per inch as a 1440p 27'' monitor) and while I didnt notice a huge difference right away, going back to the 27'' 1080p screen felt quite a bit blurrier.

That being said, with a 3090 which is pretty much midrange performance nowadays, 4k is WAY too taxing for me even if playing at 4k DLSS Quality on a big screen looks quite a bit better. I'd rather play Cyberpunk at 1080p with Psycho RT than at 4k DLSS Quality and no RT at all. Also, I play many older games that have terrible HUD scaling and are pretty much unplayable above 1080p (tried to replay Dragon Age Origins and couldnt read ♥♥♥♥, same with the first STALKER, not even mods fixed it).

So yeah, while I CAN see the improvement, the combination of HUGE performance drop and some games being quite unplayable at that resolution is making it hard for me to stick with 4k and considering going back to 1080p.

As for 1440p... if I had a good 27'', that looked as good as my 4k TV while offering much better performance instead of size, I might use that instead. But considering 144+ fps with RT On is hard to achieve at 1440p even for solid midrange performance like 3090 / 4070 Super / 4070 Ti, I might just stick with 1080p for gaming and leave my 4k TV for movies and series.
Evil 2024年6月16日 2時52分 
dont do this for portal rtx
i usually use 1080p but i downscale from 4k.
looks very very nice.

some games like it. :)
Mhill 2024年6月17日 13時41分 
I certainly couldn't use 1080p anymore regardless of screen size, it just looks dog awful when your accustomed to using higher resolutions. But to each their own...
I’m sorry but if you can’t see the difference between 1440 and 1080 someone is blind. My Wife had a 1080 and I had 1440 for a while but everytime I went and sat at her computer it looked burry and weird to me. Then she would sit at mine and ask me why mine looks so much more clear and crisp
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