Stormgate
devs reviewing their own game?
look, i could forget about bad launches, but manipulating steam reviews is a dark stain that stormgate will never get clean.
were you out of your mind?!
a bad release could be saved, but this anti consumer review manipulation is just anti consumer.
i still can't believe they have so little hope on their own game, that some devs have to organize and fake reviews to manipulate the scores.
shameful, they should be fired at least, this breaks every goodwill on the "developer-gamer" relationship. reviews are from gamers to other gamers, if devs want to talk about their game they should do a blog post.
this is so bad, wrong and bad.
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Maraxus has gone full CSI mode.
Banning long time supporters from the Discord then locking the thread on Reddit is madness. What a fiasco...
Positive review botting as well. Whether or not Tim is behind it it gets weirder by the day.
FG deserves a lot of flack for this so-called goofing and by the sound of Gerald's messages the higher ups aren't going to bother putting out any statements about the issue. They just fail to take any accountability at all.
Отредактировано Spartan dropkick; 11 янв в 12:13
Автор сообщения: Solacex
Автор сообщения: cybercybercybercyber4
as long as its just one account per dev and no bot is used, i see no problem with them reviewing their own game. its like a politician voting for himself...thats ok.

they did not admit to use bots or multiaccounts. If they did or didnt, who knows, but they did not admit that.

I think this would be okay if they didnt quickly change their names AND if their discord moderator (senna) wouldn't argue against the fact of upvoting your own posts (accused me of "manipulating public perception" when I upvoted my own feedback even though I just kinda got used to upvoting your own stuff as reddit does it automatically etc.

https://i.imgur.com/XXNJOzI.png

It really is ironic.

...trying to manipulate it's apparent reception.
♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ LOL. The hypocrisy is just off the charts. You couldn't make this ♥♥♥♥ up. lol And Psychoberto keeps running around stabbity stab. It's a clown festival. The more stuff comes out...

Автор сообщения: Spartan dropkick
Maraxus has gone full CSI mode.
Banning long time supporters from the Discord then locking the thread on Reddit is madness. What a fiasco...

I am just reading the threads that are there, tbh, the kind of people these people are is plain for everyone to see. It's just sad. : /
The discord echo chamber is descending into madness. And by the looks of it even has a few creeps and psychos hanging around. Senna suspending without any comments or reasons why and merely telling that person to go to get some sleep is crazy. Me personally, I'm staying out of there.
Lol descending into madness, I've been playing some Dawn of War... it feels like Chaos Marines lol. imagine admonishing someone for "manipulating perception", then your CEO gets caught adding(and then hiding) fake steam reviews, and THEN banning someone for 7 days for talking about thathahaha... and meanwhile stabby acts like a psycho and no one bats an eye ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥. haha Couldn't be scummier even if you tried.
Отредактировано Maraxus; 11 янв в 14:20
what in the hell is going on at FG?!
Автор сообщения: Maraxus
Lol descending into madness, I've been playing some Dawn of War... it feels like Chaos Marines lol. imagine admonishing someone for "manipulating perception", then your CEO gets caught adding(and then hiding) fake steam reviews, and THEN banning someone for 7 days for talking about thathahaha... and meanwhile stabby acts like a psycho and no one bats an eye ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥. haha Couldn't be scummier even if you tried.
Lol. Please tell me you aren't playing it for the first time. The first one is packed with flavourful and quotable lines.
I feel the warp overtaking me!
Stabby 😭
Yeah, the lying and pr spinning just never ends. I don't even...
"I am Gabriel Angelos, Captain of the Blood Ravens. My chapter is in ruins, the sector is at war. Its worlds under siege. Chaos spreads, consumes us all. Here, we will make our final stand. Here, there will be... Retribution."
It's my first time playing Dark Crusade. It's so good, I wish I had started sooner lol. Wanna go through DoW1 and 2. Not sure what these studios had back then that let them make these kind of games. I love the animations, when chaos summons buildings they will twist in weird ways... the lighting is so good, it all holds up well. The voices are so good lol. Just assaulted the Imperium main base as necrons, Loved the banter between both commanders during the mission and the map twists like taking over the giant cannon.

Bruh Stabby is out of control lol...

I think it sadly starts at the top and it trickles down. If the CEO does these kinds of things then everyone else will think it's OK. But I wonder if there is someone advising him to do these shady social media stuff... regardless, it is just so smh. : /

Oh.. someone on reddit suggested the Tims do Command and Conquer cheesy style cutscenes lol. Someone said Morten is fitting as a super villain... it so true. haha
Отредактировано Maraxus; 11 янв в 15:39
Автор сообщения: ChillFlame
"I am Gabriel Angelos, Captain of the Blood Ravens. My chapter is in ruins, the sector is at war. Its worlds under siege. Chaos spreads, consumes us all. Here, we will make our final stand. Here, there will be... Retribution."

Does he say that at the beginning of DoW? Haven't played the og in a while. I love the Grimdark vibes.
Автор сообщения: Maraxus
Автор сообщения: ChillFlame
"I am Gabriel Angelos, Captain of the Blood Ravens. My chapter is in ruins, the sector is at war. Its worlds under siege. Chaos spreads, consumes us all. Here, we will make our final stand. Here, there will be... Retribution."

Does he say that at the beginning of DoW? Haven't played the og in a while. I love the Grimdark vibes.

This particular quote is from DoW 2: Retribution cinematic
Автор сообщения: Kuhgelrund
ChillFlame, I would really love to know why you are still here in the communityhub? Of course it is your right to be here, but from various discussions, it seems clear you are not satisfied with the game or company producing it. That leaves the question: Why still engage with it? If you don't like something, leave a negative review, maybe do a post about it and leave it behind. After all, you don't enjoy it right?

I really don't understand why you would choose to remain here when everything is bad.
Is it fun mocking people? Trying to shame people for liking something you don't?

No I'll will intended, I would sincerely like to understand what keeps you here.
I will of course let chillflame speak for himself on this but I'm also wondering about this myself and others on the various channels related to Stormgate and the question pops up every so often.
I'd say it is more complicated than simply disliking a game and walking away or hating it and trolling those who like it. Ultimately, the main reason we are here is because the devs made promises, and continue to make promises, that the future content will bring vast improvements and completely overhaul current state of the game and we are far from 1.0, no matter how low the player count.
People who have invested into the kickstarter, or stocks in the company, and time following, posting, debating, socialising about the game are expecting a return on their investment. We live in a day and age of scummy gaming corporations who overhype and underdeliver, often resorting to delays, buggy, incomplete games littered with microtransactions and needless gating of content and pre order bonues behind multiple editions to coax buyers into getting expensive collector editions. And we as gamers should know better by now than to fall for pre orders and bluesky kickstarter ambitions. Stormgate has fallen squarely into that industry trend and been a disaster. In saying that, it is not uncommon for backers of failed kickstarter campaigns, or just sequels gone bad, to be outraged at the devs for manipulative and advertising tactics long after the fact.
There are those who cut tail and run, writing it off and hoping to never hear of it again. And there are those who are disappointed from Blizzard's abandonment of Starcraft and Warcraft strategy legacies, desperate to have the mantle picked up.
FG were to be the ideal candidates for that, boasting AAA RTS cvs, and promising to do right by long time RTS fans that are suffering a long drought of good AAA titles. They were to usher in the next generation of RTS games and potentially even succeed the almighty SC2. They were lying.
Anyone who has played WC3, SC2 or older RTS games from the golden age knows this game will fail in its current state. Because of their false advertising and anti consumerism and PR botch ups they've been called names like fraud giant, flop giant and scamgate. And in typical anticonsumer practice, they blamed users for expecting things they never advertised (SC3) and being overly negative, driving player base down.
All this fake reviewing, fake review bombing, are attempts at damage control but are just more pipes in the pipeline of their marketing machine, creating even more controversy for themselves when the best thing for them to do is stop engaging with and blaming trolls on their channels and get to work on the bloody game.
The problem is, too much core content has been delayed and the goalposts and roadmap are shifting. AND FGS still believe they can turn the ship around and make a great game. Hoping to stage a No Man's Sky or FFXIV comeback. Referring to Baldur's Gate 3 as a game with a mid early access period.
So as a gamer still clutching onto the soulless shell of the $40 million RTS that MAY, in the ever so slightest of chances, resurrect into one of the greatest gaming comebacks, that leaves us in limbo about where the product is really at. All we can do is watch the circus going on in the social channels. And gee have the schenanigans there have taken on a life of their own. A reddit post joked about the Subwars between stans and doomers. Unexpectedly, stans have now turned on stans.
It's like watching a dysfunctional
yet addictive reality TV show like MAFS. We can even be participants!
Most of us probably know there is a 99.9999% chance the game still flops at 1.0 then the studio shuts down. Yet, FGS seems convinced we're in an alternate universe where they become gods of the RTS genre and the game is alive and kicking right up there with SC2. When will they get the memo?
In saying that, for all the time, money, and energy people have wasted on stormgate thus far, I sincerely hope they just give us the half-baked 1.0, close doors with a modicum of dignity, and be done with it.

TLDR: The game is not at 1.0 with probably less than half the content released. A lot have walked away from the game but we also cannot fully write the game off until 1.0 or they run out of funds and development stops.
Отредактировано Spartan dropkick; 11 янв в 18:05
Автор сообщения: Maraxus
It's my first time playing Dark Crusade. It's so good, I wish I had started sooner lol. Wanna go through DoW1 and 2. Not sure what these studios had back then that let them make these kind of games. I love the animations, when chaos summons buildings they will twist in weird ways... the lighting is so good, it all holds up well. The voices are so good lol. Just assaulted the Imperium main base as necrons, Loved the banter between both commanders during the mission and the map twists like taking over the giant cannon.

Bruh Stabby is out of control lol...

I think it sadly starts at the top and it trickles down. If the CEO does these kinds of things then everyone else will think it's OK. But I wonder if there is someone advising him to do these shady social media stuff... regardless, it is just so smh. : /

Oh.. someone on reddit suggested the Tims do Command and Conquer cheesy style cutscenes lol. Someone said Morten is fitting as a super villain... it so true. haha
Ah, what chaos heresy is this? You must be purged brother :P
Dark Crusade is really good. Loved the banter too. Had a lot of character that holds up so well. I'm not a huge 40k fan but because you are curious about mods, soulstorm has the ultimate apocalypse mod for a full conversion 40k geek out.
You should get the spaceport that allows you to attack twice in one turn.

OMG! Someone needs to make a CNC mod with the Tims in fmvs haha.
Отредактировано Spartan dropkick; 11 янв в 18:35
Автор сообщения: Kuhgelrund
ChillFlame, I would really love to know why you are still here in the communityhub? Of course it is your right to be here, but from various discussions, it seems clear you are not satisfied with the game or company producing it. That leaves the question: Why still engage with it? If you don't like something, leave a negative review, maybe do a post about it and leave it behind. After all, you don't enjoy it right?

I really don't understand why you would choose to remain here when everything is bad.
Is it fun mocking people? Trying to shame people for liking something you don't?

No I'll will intended, I would sincerely like to understand what keeps you here.

That's right, I am not satisfied with the game or the company producing it.

I think most of the devs' PR talk is deceptive, and people won't get what the devs promised.
Also, I love RTS games and I believe SG and FG are unhealthy for the RTS in general.
We need respectful and honest devs, not this charade.

I am here to prevent others from repeating my mistakes and trusting this studio.
Flee, you fools.

Also, I already made a review (EA day 1). And I think I did a good job preventing the devs from tricking more people.

https://steamcommunity.com/profiles/76561198351807028/recommended/2012510?snr=1_5_9__402

GLHF
Dang I passed out with the game open lol(becoming a more and more common occurrence xD).

Автор сообщения: ChillFlame
This particular quote is from DoW 2: Retribution cinematic
That so cool, there seems to be a ton of cool content ahead lol.

Автор сообщения: Spartan dropkick
Ah, what chaos heresy is this? You must be purged brother :P
Dark Crusade is really good. Loved the banter too. Had a lot of character that holds up so well. I'm not a huge 40k fan but because you are curious about mods, soulstorm has the ultimate apocalypse mod for a full conversion 40k geek out.
You should get the spaceport that allows you to attack twice in one turn.

OMG! Someone needs to make a CNC mod with the Tims in fmvs haha.
I love the aesthetics of Dawn of War and the constant action, Dark Crusdader's the overworld is interestingly designed too. You need to conquer more territory to get enough starting supplies to assault Strongholds because Strongholds start attacking you constantly... the Stronghold themes are amazing too... it all makes sense thematically and mechanically and gives you tons of freedom to choose where to go. I got the port, started near it, not sure if the starting faction has an effect on how near you start to it. I will try all the Dawn of War stuff in due time, it's a lot of good stuff lol. Warhammer is cool yeah, you can tell how it influenced Warcraft and Starcraft, if fact a lot of the best game designers seem influenced by tabletop games for some reason...

Just imagine TIm with a goatee looking menacingly into the camera lol. (But really I do wonder who makes some of these decisions... promise old blizzard quality while at the same time pilling on the user all the modern bs of the convulsing triple A industry).

As someone who has followed Larian since D:OS1, the self comparisons to BG3 are just more ridiculous deceit, the studios could not be more different in their design philosophy and in how they treat their customers. If anything SG should be compared to DOS1 rather than BG3, Larian was almost broke when they crowdfunded DOS1, received a fraction of the funds compared to FG(4m so 10% of FG's 40m), didn't have any help from celebrities/journalists/etc, yet managed to put out a product everyone loved. So if anything it only makes FG look so bad.

Ultimately I respect Chillflame because from what I have seen they have been keeping it real all this time in the face of the endless lies and being singled out multiple times by the FG Acolytes(again from what I have seen, and this suggest some history behind this).

Also this thing dishing out nuclear bombs every 5 seconds is amazing lol.
https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=3405935361
How does the lighting look so nice 20 years later lol.
https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=3406271502

Oh yeah also seems like they are deleting more stuff from reddit than ever, trying to control the narrative as much as possible. 😂 A reddit commenter put it beautifully:

honestly my thinking is that at this poing FG is completely aware nobody is ever gonna play their game, and nothing they do is targeted at gamers anymore. They are worried what the saudi/other old boomer investor thinks so they can play one last scam on him and extract more funding. Us pesky gamers are just interfering with this process and they worry the investor crowd gets a hint on what is going on from us.
Отредактировано Maraxus; 12 янв в 14:15
I remember reading that review lol :steamthumbsup:

Yes Dawn of War 1/Dark Crusade merged flavour and mechanics very competently. An introduction to 40k for many, myself included. Cheesy, bloody, but grimdark all at once. Not that I like really bloody games. The recycled metamap campaign missions got a bit repetitive outside of the strongholds that are otherwise big highlights.
I hadn't paid much attention to the lighting. I guess it's good. Lotsa pew pew and explosions.
Dawn of War 2 took away the base building for a more real time tactics/ARPG approach. The aesthetic is more grimdark and fairly monotonous but gameplay is rock solid for what it is.
Dawn of War 3, well... that one was a disaster. I like the fact it brought back base building and the RTS feel. Everything is else lore and mechanics wise was broken one way or another. The game is not entirely bad, I just wish it wasn't called Dawn of War 3.

I thought that was Pillars of Eternity where the studio was nearing bankruptcy. Did Larian struggle too?
If SG became the modern day RTS equivalent of DOS1 we would have all been happy.
The only thing this company has in common with Larian seems to be that they both had kickstarters in old PC genres and financial insecurity lol.
Отредактировано Spartan dropkick; 13 янв в 22:29
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