Stormgate

Stormgate

SKAPPELTON Aug 12, 2024 @ 8:02pm
10 dollars for one coop character?
Look I want out of the activision blizzard mess but 10 dollars for one coop character is kind of outrageous compared to 5 dollars in SC2 coop.

On top of this, those of us who got the ultimate edition as if that wasn't enough, they want us to pay a extra 5 dollars just for a supporter pet yerboa.

This is just wrong
Last edited by SKAPPELTON; Aug 12, 2024 @ 8:03pm
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black_and_blue Aug 12, 2024 @ 9:31pm 
Agree. In SC2, a hero was $5.00, and I thought that was a reasonable price.

Legacy of the Void came out in 2015, and the total inflation from 2015 to now is roughly 30-35%. So based on this, a reasonable price for a hero in Stormgate would be just over $6.50.
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The Cheese Aug 12, 2024 @ 10:03pm 
Double the price of an SC2 commander ON TOP OF paying for mission packs. Get outta here with that garbage.
Abyssus_j Aug 12, 2024 @ 10:04pm 
Kickstarter backers who supported the project to a tune of $300, and Deluxe package owners who spent $100 weren't even gifted the 0 day hero.

Dont understand why and who made this decision. It's like dropping a nuke on the community goodwill they built up until now for very little profit.
OrsonM Aug 12, 2024 @ 10:13pm 
Devs committed to the next hero for free for that tier. I get that outrage is easy, but you can give feedback to the devs and they are pretty responsive and open about any issues.

Why was Warz available on relase? Because he was intended to be released way down the line but got done sooner. The optics look terrible, but there was no bad intentions there.
Larkis Aug 12, 2024 @ 10:19pm 
Originally posted by The Cheese:
Double the price of an SC2 commander ON TOP OF paying for mission packs. Get outta here with that garbage.

You also need to paid 60$ for 1/3 of the Story for SC and then need to pay again for the commander.
Abyssus_j Aug 12, 2024 @ 10:21pm 
Originally posted by OrsonM:
Devs committed to the next hero for free for that tier.

Sure, but why do it in the first place?

A relationship where one party is only willing to act in a mutually beneficial way after they are held to account and at risk of serious PR damage, is not a healthy one.

It smacks of extreme self-interest and greed.
Last edited by Abyssus_j; Aug 12, 2024 @ 10:29pm
The Cheese Aug 12, 2024 @ 10:42pm 
Originally posted by Larkis:
Originally posted by The Cheese:
Double the price of an SC2 commander ON TOP OF paying for mission packs. Get outta here with that garbage.

You also need to paid 60$ for 1/3 of the Story for SC and then need to pay again for the commander.
SC2 is f2p and you get the entire first third of the game (29 missions), 16 coop missions, and 3 commanders before you pay a single cent. Each expansion, containing 20 and 19 missions respectively + an additional coop commander, is the same price as one solitary hero in stormgate.

I get that this is a new game and that it's under active development, but the differences between them around monetisation are pretty striking given how similar everything else is.
Last edited by The Cheese; Aug 12, 2024 @ 10:44pm
Valcrist Aug 12, 2024 @ 11:05pm 
what a trash game.
Terotrous Aug 12, 2024 @ 11:25pm 
It also doesn't help that the heroes also aren't nearly as unique as the ones in SC2 either. I hope they will eventually improve this, but it doesn't make a great first impression.
Spartan dropkick Aug 13, 2024 @ 9:07am 
Originally posted by Abyssus_j:
It's like dropping a nuke on the community goodwill they built up until now for very little profit.
I see what you did there.

FG it's not good practice to nuke your own backers! :steamthumbsdown:
Last edited by Spartan dropkick; Aug 13, 2024 @ 9:07am
OrsonM Aug 13, 2024 @ 9:18am 
Originally posted by Abyssus_j:
Originally posted by OrsonM:
Devs committed to the next hero for free for that tier.

Sure, but why do it in the first place?

A relationship where one party is only willing to act in a mutually beneficial way after they are held to account and at risk of serious PR damage, is not a healthy one.

It smacks of extreme self-interest and greed.

Can't say why, but right now they have no big publisher backing them, a lot of what they can do is very limited.
Nightsbane Aug 13, 2024 @ 9:42am 
Originally posted by black_and_blue:
Agree. In SC2, a hero was $5.00, and I thought that was a reasonable price.

Legacy of the Void came out in 2015, and the total inflation from 2015 to now is roughly 30-35%. So based on this, a reasonable price for a hero in Stormgate would be just over $6.50.

Hmm no? Video games are not effected by inflation like other things in fact prices have gone down for video games over time. The fair price is $5 or less.
Last edited by Nightsbane; Aug 13, 2024 @ 9:43am
HighLanderPony Aug 13, 2024 @ 10:48am 
They're free till lvl 5.

Also, they might cost more than in SC2 but in SC2 you had to pay more for other stuff, esp. if you got it before it went F2P.
Klashbash Aug 13, 2024 @ 10:54am 
Originally posted by Nightsbane:
Originally posted by black_and_blue:
Agree. In SC2, a hero was $5.00, and I thought that was a reasonable price.

Legacy of the Void came out in 2015, and the total inflation from 2015 to now is roughly 30-35%. So based on this, a reasonable price for a hero in Stormgate would be just over $6.50.

Hmm no? Video games are not effected by inflation like other things in fact prices have gone down for video games over time.

I highly encourage you to read some basic economic books. Inflation occurs when the money supply expands (through printing) faster than the growth of the market. Governments do this in order to pay for programs without raising taxes (bypassing consent as well), but it decreases the value of the dollar in the process. To simplify: Too many dollars chasing too few goods. Everything operates on a scarcity principle, and the more you have of something the more it tends to decline in its worth.

Some AAA games have been going up in price. But the reason why there's been overall price stagnation or straight up free-to-play is because of microtransactions. Also, there's never been more competition which means the price elasticity will be pretty rigid. Inflation affects literally everything, because both goods and services are purchased with money.

The fair price is $5 or less.

This is pretty nonsensical. The correct price is whatever a buyer and seller agree upon. "Fair" is a loaded term here, because it follows no actual methodology. After all, what made Starcraft 2's co-op commanders a "fair" price in the first place? Just search "Starcraft 2 co-op commanders too expensive" and you'll get plenty of results of people strongly disagreeing with you. Hence, the only correct price is again what a buyer and seller come to terms on.
Nightsbane Aug 13, 2024 @ 1:31pm 
Originally posted by Klashbash:
Originally posted by Nightsbane:

Hmm no? Video games are not effected by inflation like other things in fact prices have gone down for video games over time.

I highly encourage you to read some basic economic books. Inflation occurs when the money supply expands (through printing) faster than the growth of the market. Governments do this in order to pay for programs without raising taxes (bypassing consent as well), but it decreases the value of the dollar in the process. To simplify: Too many dollars chasing too few goods. Everything operates on a scarcity principle, and the more you have of something the more it tends to decline in its worth.

Some AAA games have been going up in price. But the reason why there's been overall price stagnation or straight up free-to-play is because of microtransactions. Also, there's never been more competition which means the price elasticity will be pretty rigid. Inflation affects literally everything, because both goods and services are purchased with money.

The fair price is $5 or less.

This is pretty nonsensical. The correct price is whatever a buyer and seller agree upon. "Fair" is a loaded term here, because it follows no actual methodology. After all, what made Starcraft 2's co-op commanders a "fair" price in the first place? Just search "Starcraft 2 co-op commanders too expensive" and you'll get plenty of results of people strongly disagreeing with you. Hence, the only correct price is again what a buyer and seller come to terms on.

That's a lot of ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ for not understanding that inflation hasn't effected video games like food and other supplies guy. In fact it's the opposite in the video game industry. Only had to read the first sentence to know you have no clue what you're talking about. Imagine having so much brain rot to think that digital ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ goods are scarce lol !
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